2020 Election Results

[Swammerdami]

FBI raids homes of Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters and Lauren Boebert’s former campaign manager

The homes of Tina Peters, Sherronna Bishop, and two others were searched by the FBI on Tuesday.

www.nbc11news.com

The reaction of Lauren Boebert's former campaign manager seemed hyperbolic:

“Today large teams of heavily armed federal agents, using a battering ram to break down doors, raided the homes of Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters and several of her friends and colleagues, mostly elderly women in their mid 60s. This is a level of weaponization of the Justice Department we haven’t seen since the McCarthy era. Thank God Tina wasn’t protesting critical race theory at a Virginia school board meeting or they might have brought two battering rams.”

Tuesday night Peters did appear on Lindell TV, a channel ran by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell to speak about the raid.

Yes, but did they also discuss critical race theory? Critical pillow theory?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Wednesday afternoon, Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser and 21st Judicial District Attorney Dan Rubinstein released the following statement:

“Yesterday, the 21st Judicial District Attorney’s Office and the Colorado Attorney General’s Office—along with our FBI partners—conducted authorized enforcement actions in support of an ongoing investigation into the alleged election system breach in Mesa County. We have reviewed a statement from Tina Peters’ legal defense fund that claims a level of force during the execution of this joint federal-state law enforcement operation. At no time was force used on Ms. Peters or her home. Ms. Peters was allowed to move around her home and fix herself breakfast while agents gathered items before departing. We are issuing this statement to clear up inaccuracies about what occurred during yesterday’s enforcement action. We will continue to conduct a thorough investigation based on facts and the law, including using proper law enforcement tools such as the judicially authorized search that was executed properly in this matter.”

So more standard right wing lying. Why am I no surprised?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Meanwhile, here in Missouri.....this is a poll by a somewhat local television station:

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These are the people I live around.

Ruth

Do you live around Branson?

 

[Ruth Harris]

No, I am hours away from Branson. This attitude, unfortunately, is very common in Missouri. This is a solid red state except for the larger cities (KC, St. Louis, Columbia areas). I was born and raised in KC and these people give me culture shock constantly.

Ruth

 

[Rhea]

Wednesday afternoon, Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser and 21st Judicial District Attorney Dan Rubinstein released the following statement:

“Yesterday, the 21st Judicial District Attorney’s Office and the Colorado Attorney General’s Office—along with our FBI partners—conducted authorized enforcement actions in support of an ongoing investigation into the alleged election system breach in Mesa County. We have reviewed a statement from Tina Peters’ legal defense fund that claims a level of force during the execution of this joint federal-state law enforcement operation. At no time was force used on Ms. Peters or her home. Ms. Peters was allowed to move around her home and fix herself breakfast while agents gathered items before departing. We are issuing this statement to clear up inaccuracies LIES about what occurred during yesterday’s enforcement action. We will continue to conduct a thorough investigation based on facts and the law, including using proper law enforcement tools such as the judicially authorized search that was executed properly in this matter.”

So more standard right wing lying. Why am I no surprised?

Fixed that for them.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Meanwhile, here in Missouri.....this is a poll by a somewhat local television station:

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These are the people I live around.

Ruth

Depends on how you define "fraud" and "result".

If you include all the dishonest anti-voter crap the Republicans pulled as "fraud" and you look at "result" as in the vote numbers rather than just the outcome, certainly.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Competition in sports would be interesting if everytime a person or team lost close the claim was made that it was because the referees, umpires, judges and the opponent cheated. Most organizations have rules that address such behavior but not politics.

 

[ZiprHead]

Pro-Trump Groups Forged Election Documents Saying He Won Arizona, Michigan

A document created by one pro-Trump group in Arizona declaring Trump the winner carried the state seal.

www.newsweek.com

Groups supporting former President Donald Trump in Arizona and Michigan sent fake documents to the National Archives falsely showing that he had won those states' Electoral College votes.

Forged certificates of ascertainment were sent to the National Archives by pro-Trump groups in each state in December 2020. The document from Arizona bore the state seal and legal action was taken against those responsible.

Certificates of ascertainment identify how a state's electors have cast their votes in the presidential election and the faked documents show Trump and then Vice President Mike Pence winning the slates of electors in both states.

 

[Elixir]

Pro-Trump Groups Forged Election Documents Saying He Won Arizona, Michigan

A document created by one pro-Trump group in Arizona declaring Trump the winner carried the state seal.

www.newsweek.com

Groups supporting former President Donald Trump in Arizona and Michigan sent fake documents to the National Archives falsely showing that he had won those states' Electoral College votes.

Forged certificates of ascertainment were sent to the National Archives by pro-Trump groups in each state in December 2020. The document from Arizona bore the state seal and legal action was taken against those responsible.

Certificates of ascertainment identify how a state's electors have cast their votes in the presidential election and the faked documents show Trump and then Vice President Mike Pence winning the slates of electors in both states.

Also Wisconsin. Everyone who signed those documents should have been arrested long ago, tried, convicted and imprisoned by now. It’s a slam dunk, smoking gun case
WTF is DOJ up to, and why are they not doing their job?
Kid glove treatment of traitors will be the death of the union.

 

[ZiprHead]

Mike Lindell says he has 'enough evidence' to put '300 million' Americans in jail for election fraud

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell argued this week that "300 million" Americans belong in jail for election fraud.Lindell's remarks on Real America's Voice were first reported by Right Wing Watch."Everything you're going to see over these next seven months to get rid of the [voting] machines," he said...

www.rawstory.com

I think his mattress has slipped of its foundation. (pillow humor)

 

[ZiprHead]

This is good news.

The Georgia district attorney investigating whether former President Donald Trump and his allies committed crimes when they tried to overturn the 2020 election there has asked a judge for a special grand jury for the probe.

In a letter, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said her office has reason to believe "that the State of Georgia's administration of elections in 2020, including the State's election of the President of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruptions."

A special grand jury allows the DA to issue subpoenas. In the letter, Willis says several witnesses or potential witnesses — including Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger — "have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony."

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme.

The sources said members of former President Donald Trump's campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan, a core tenet of the broader plot to overturn President Joe Biden's victory when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6.
Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call. The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the "alternate electors" scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. But behind the scenes, Giuliani and Trump campaign officials actively choreographed the process, the sources said.

One fake elector from Michigan boasted at a recent event hosted by a local Republican organization that the Trump campaign directed the entire operation.
"We fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that," Meshawn Maddock, co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, said at a public event last week that was organized by the conservative group Stand Up Michigan, according to a recording obtained by CNN.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Pro-Trump Groups Forged Election Documents Saying He Won Arizona, Michigan

A document created by one pro-Trump group in Arizona declaring Trump the winner carried the state seal.

www.newsweek.com

Groups supporting former President Donald Trump in Arizona and Michigan sent fake documents to the National Archives falsely showing that he had won those states' Electoral College votes.

Forged certificates of ascertainment were sent to the National Archives by pro-Trump groups in each state in December 2020. The document from Arizona bore the state seal and legal action was taken against those responsible.

Certificates of ascertainment identify how a state's electors have cast their votes in the presidential election and the faked documents show Trump and then Vice President Mike Pence winning the slates of electors in both states.

Also Wisconsin. Everyone who signed those documents should have been arrested long ago, tried, convicted and imprisoned by now. It’s a slam dunk, smoking gun case
WTF is DOJ up to, and why are they not doing their job?
Kid glove treatment of traitors will be the death of the union.

The frustrating part is that all of these people have their finger prints (and signatures) on this evidence, which makes them guilty of crimes. Where as Trump... not guilty of any of it. Until we talk Georgia.

 

[Elixir]

Mike Lindell says he has 'enough evidence' to put '300 million' Americans in jail for election fraud

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell argued this week that "300 million" Americans belong in jail for election fraud.Lindell's remarks on Real America's Voice were first reported by Right Wing Watch."Everything you're going to see over these next seven months to get rid of the [voting] machines," he said...

www.rawstory.com

I think his mattress has slipped of its foundation. (pillow humor)

If anyone wants to hold it over his face, I'll lend you My Pillow.

 

[ZiprHead]

Idaho sends MyPillow CEO a cease and desist letter along with $6k bill. Here's why

Three months after a state investigation disproved MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's accusations of voter fraud in Idaho, the information remains on Lindell's website. Idaho government officials want it gone.

They also want Lindell to pay the state for the money it spent proving Lindell's allegations wrong.

Secretary of State Lawerence Denney and Attorney General Lawrence Wasden sent a cease-and-desist letter to Lindell on Tuesday. They asked Lindell to "promptly remove all false statements about Idaho's elections from your website" and "refrain from making similar statements in the future."

"Despite knowing your statements about Idaho's elections are false, you have not removed your 'Big Lie' chart and continue to perpetuate your false statements," the letter stated.

Idaho is also coming for Lindell's wallet. The letter requested he send $6,558.83 to the secretary of state's office to cover the money it spent refuting his claims. The office first announced plans to seek payment in October.

The Idaho Statesman reached out to Lindell by email but received no response as of Wednesday evening.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I was pondering how quickly so many people came to the conclusion that the 2020 election was stolen, and it occurred that the population was primed for it with stories about how the 2016 election was stolen.

 

[lpetrich]

I was pondering how quickly so many people came to the conclusion that the 2020 election was stolen, and it occurred that the population was primed for it with stories about how the 2016 election was stolen.

Evidence: {}

 

[Politesse]

I was pondering how quickly so many people came to the conclusion that the 2020 election was stolen, and it occurred that the population was primed for it with stories about how the 2016 election was stolen.

And other, earlier elections. When it comes down to it, Americans as a whole have very little trust in the electoral system that selects their leaders. As well they should not, though I disagree with some of the reasons (ie conspiracy theories) they think it fails to be representative.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

A tentative "yes" to the other elections referenced. There was a significant portion of the population that thought Putin was behind Trump stealing the 2016 election.

The only flaw is that there isn't a lot of overlap between the people who think 2016 was stolen and the people who think 2020 was stolen. Both had significant numbers, but little overlap.

 

[ZiprHead]

I was pondering how quickly so many people came to the conclusion that the 2020 election was stolen, and it occurred that the population was primed for it with stories about how the 2016 election was stolen.

I don't remember very many mainstream pols saying the 2016 election was stolen. Certainly not like almost the entirety of the Republican party today. Can you give some examples?