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Trump pressures Georgia's Raffensperger to overturn his defeat in extraordinary call - The Washington Post
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.
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Transcript and audio: Trump call with Georgia Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger - The Washington Post
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/03/its-impeachable-its-likely-illegal-its-coup/

It’s impeachable. It’s likely illegal. It’s a coup.

But pressuring a campaign official to change the vote tally is a federal offense, as former Justice Department inspector general Michael Bromwich tweeted Sunday, citing Title 52 U.S. Section 20511. That law states: “A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office … knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by … the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held” is subject to imprisonment of up to five years.

Threatening Raffensperger with criminal consequences is also arguably extortion. Title 18 Section 875 of the U.S. Code reads: “Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Alternatively, the state attorney general of Georgia might investigate and bring applicable charges under state law. That would have one clear advantage: Trump cannot receive a federal pardon for state crimes.
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But it was another perfect call. So perfect, GA election officials felt they needed to have their lawyers in on the call!
 
Jesus. Can you even imagine the red-faced, jowl-wagging diatribes we'd've heard by now, if this was a Democrat President on tape? Hannity, Dobbs, Limbaugh, and Ingraham would have months of programming from it. Lindsey and McTurtle would invoke the founding fathers, Reagan, and Jesus of Nazareth. The stench of Trump and his party is intolerable.
 
ideologyhunter said:
Jesus. Can you even imagine the red-faced, jowl-wagging diatribes we'd've heard by now, if this was a Democrat President on tape? Hannity, Dobbs, Limbaugh, and Ingraham would have months of programming from it. Lindsey and McTurtle would invoke the founding fathers, Reagan, and Jesus of Nazareth. The stench of Trump and his party is intolerable.
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The only thing missing from this episode was the GA Secretary of State waking up this morning with a horse head in his bed.
 
I don't always trust Rawstory as a source but....

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sues-georgia-official-recording/

President Donald Trump intends to sue Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger for recording their phone call on Saturday in which the president demanded he commit a crime and "find" votes to turn Georgia red ahead of Jan. 6.

Georgia Republican Party chairman David Shafer tweeted Sunday that Trump has filed two lawsuits for recording the phone call he said was a "confidential settlement discussion," which it wasn't. He claimed that the conversation was about pending legislation in the state. In fact, the recording makes it clear that the call was a shakedown from Trump demanding that the Georgia Republican "find" votes.

Georgia is what's called a "one-party consent" state, meaning that only one party on a phone call would have to be aware of the recording. Obviously, Raffensperger and his lawyer knew of the recording, which satisfied the one-party rule. So, Trump's lawsuits will be dismissed.
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Georgia is what's called a "one-party consent" state, meaning that only one party on a phone call would have to be aware of the recording. Obviously, Raffensperger and his lawyer knew of the recording, which satisfied the one-party rule. So, Trump's lawsuits will be dismissed.
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Yep.
 
Erik Wasson on Twitter: "TRUMP CALL: @AOC tells us “I absolutely think it's an impeachable offense and if it was up to me, there would be articles on the floor, quite quickly “" / Twitter


Rep. Pramila Jayapal on Twitter: "This is a dangerous attack on our elections and our country. We must treat it as such. To protect our democracy, there must be justice. Donald Trump must be held fully accountable—now and after he leaves office." / Twitter


Kaitlan Collins on Twitter: "Officials in Brad Raffensperger’s office recorded his call with President Trump on Saturday, but Georgia's secretary of state said he did not want it released unless Trump attacked him or misrepresented it, per @JMOCNN. Trump tweeted today attacking him." / Twitter


Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!" / Twitter
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GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Twitter: "Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true. The truth will come out" / Twitter
 
A longer article, same source.

article said:
"President @realDonaldTrump has filed two lawsuits - federal and state - against @GaSecofState," Shafer tweeted. "The telephone conference call @GaSecofState secretly recorded was a 'confidential settlement discussion' of that litigation, which is still pending."
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It is incredible just how deep the cancer is reaching within the GOP.
 
Titled link: Trump to sue Georgia secretary of state for recording a call where he demanded a crime be committed: report - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism


Calls for Trump impeachment after he's busted for 'criminal election tampering' in Georgia phone call - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism
According to the report the Post "obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated [Brad] Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking 'a big risk.'"

The post also noted that Trump was very specific about the number of votes he wanted telling the Georgia official, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."
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(On impeaching Trump...)
Brian Sapient the Planet Saver on Twitter: "I wish it were up to @AOC and not the 700 year old." / Twitter
Presumably Nancy Pelosi
 
 
David W. Blight on Twitter: "In response to the Republicans' disunionist actions this coming week, the Biden team needs to drop the language of healing and unity; time to talk about saving the Union itself from the Republican assault. Dial up some Lincoln Joe." / Twitter
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Ronald Brownstein on Twitter: "Biden’s determination to downplay the mounting Trump efforts to overturn the election, and the growing number of Rs enlisting in that effort, fits his campaign message but dangerously minimizes the risk coalescing to American democracy at this moment." / Twitter
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Alethea Veritas on Twitter: "@RonBrownstein I fear he will not fully investigate & prosecute Trump out of a greater desire to reconcile the nation. Noble on the surface, but an example needs to be made. (I say this as a former lifelong R.)" / Twitter

I share that concern. Seems like JB might decide to let Trump off the hook for all that he's done.

Sahil Kapur on Twitter: "This calls to mind the contrast in how Democrats framed 2020 ahead of election day.

@JoeBiden said it was about unity, healing and casting a vote to “restore the soul of America.”

@AOC said it was about “stopping fascism” and letting democracy “live another day.”" / Twitter
 
 
The NY-22 outcome is still being litigated.
Brindisi, Tenney argue, vote by vote, in epic nail-biter. How perfect does a voter have to be? - syracuse.com
Lawyers for Brindisi, who trails Tenney by 29 votes, are trying to get ballots that have been rejected to be included in the count by arguing that technicalities and alleged errors by government employees should not be enough to toss votes. Tenney’s attorneys are arguing that the judge should adhere strictly to what they say is established law.

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Brindisi’s attorneys are leaning on a 2020 state election reform law to make the case that tossed ballots should count. The reform tries to prevent voters’ ballots from being thrown out because of minor technical violations as long as they “substantially comply” with the law.
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Trausti said:
Wut? Did you feel the same why when Democrats did the same to the Republican president-elects? It's not going to change the outcome; but the media is hyping it more this year than prior elections. Shocking.
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Man, this quote hasn't aged well.
 
lpetrich said:
🌠Dee Starlight 🌠 on Twitter: "“Strike at the foundation of our republic.” -Paul Ryan

“Set an exceptionally dangerous precedent.” -Liz Cheney

"Take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory.” -Joint statement of all former living Sec. of Defense

#wtpBlue https://t.co/OaKH5gnLRh" / Twitter

Ryan Struyk on Twitter: "Wow. All 10 living former defense secretaries write in the Washington Post.

Carter, Cheney, Cohen, Esper, Gates, Hagel, Mattis, Panetta, Perry, Rumsfeld:

"The time for questioning the results has passed." https://t.co/dSBaLbHB2z" / Twitter
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Opinion | 10 former defense secretaries: Involving military in election disputes would be dangerous, unlawful - The Washington Post
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You might think that Republicans would begin to show some glimmer of respect for the Democrats who were the only ones who realized how dangerous this imbecile would prove to be.
 
Treedbear said:
You might think that Republicans would begin to show some glimmer of respect for the Democrats who were the only ones who realized how dangerous this imbecile would prove to be.
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To be fair, a good chunk of Republicans realized how dangerous and imbecilic this individual was back in 2016. It is just a shame that the members of this less delusional contingent of the Republican party were a helpless minority and/or were content to exchange a tax cut and some deported immigrants for the destruction of some of the longest enduring and cherished American values.

How's that for conservatism?
 
zorq said:
Treedbear said:
You might think that Republicans would begin to show some glimmer of respect for the Democrats who were the only ones who realized how dangerous this imbecile would prove to be.
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To be fair, a good chunk of Republicans realized how dangerous and imbecilic this individual was back in 2016. It is just a shame that the members of this less delusional contingent of the Republican party were a helpless minority and/or were content to exchange a tax cut and some deported immigrants for the destruction of some of the longest enduring and cherished American values.

How's that for conservatism?
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Let's be clear about this. Almost ALL of them knew. Ted, Miss Lindsey, Christie, and others lined up to say "he's a piece of shit" and then when he began running away with the nomination turned right around and kissed his enormous ass for four years. Mittens gathered up what little dignity he had left to vote for impeachment, but he supported Trump's agenda otherwise, and not a single other elected Republican official had the stones to stand up to Dear Leader.

Oh, since the guano impacted the air conditioner a few of them who aren't running for reelection have come out to challenge the beast, but that's only because there aren't any consequences for them other than being called a "RINO."

There's the rub. You are a "Republican In Name Only" if you're conservative, but don't bow down to the leader.
 
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