I read about that early this morning. It happened at a block party. It may be that somebody got angry and started mindlessly shooting. Still, the 2nd amendment was the worst thing the founders did and though it may not have been only related to slavery, I've read numerous articles, besides Carol Anderson's views, that Southern slave owners influenced it for two reasons. One was out of fear that their slaves might try to attack them, and two, so they could shoot their slaves if they tried to escape. Basically, the guns were used as a way to keep their slaves under control. Naturally conservatives don't want to accept that any of this is true, but there is at least some emerging evidence that it is at least partly true.
The Slave-State Origins of Modern Gun Rights
What advocates may not realize in citing historical court opinions is that the precedent they rely on can be traced to a darker part of American history.www.theatlantic.com
2 dead to 30 hit suggests they were shooting at one target but there were a lot of people around that caught misses. Two shooters is also unusual for a mass shooting.
. Again?We don't have anything resembling a 2nd amendment here in Canada - but I suspect that's because we assembled and trained a militia (the RCMP) to "clear" the land of it's inhabitants - as opposed to the US where the settlers were allowed to open fire on indigenous peoples.I read about that early this morning. It happened at a block party. It may be that somebody got angry and started mindlessly shooting. Still, the 2nd amendment was the worst thing the founders did and though it may not have been only related to slavery, I've read numerous articles, besides Carol Anderson's views, that Southern slave owners influenced it for two reasons. One was out of fear that their slaves might try to attack them, and two, so they could shoot their slaves if they tried to escape. Basically, the guns were used as a way to keep their slaves under control. Naturally conservatives don't want to accept that any of this is true, but there is at least some emerging evidence that it is at least partly true.
The Slave-State Origins of Modern Gun Rights
What advocates may not realize in citing historical court opinions is that the precedent they rely on can be traced to a darker part of American history.
Well, there is some desire to get rid of it and some desire to change it, but not enough to overcome the extremely high barrier required to amend the constitution.
No Amendment is required. Just a plain reading of the Constitution. Including the words “well regulated militia”.
That would be true except the fucking SCOTUS decided to interpret that differently. I think it was during the Obama administration. Correct me if I'm wrong. From what I've been reading lately, the 2nd amendment was never really about any fucking well regulated militia. Our fucking country was founded by a bunch of white, racist men who wanted guns to protect themselves from those who were different from themselves, including slaves, and indigenous people. Let's not forget that these so called founders were all or mostly all slave holders. Women and anyone who wasn't a white male weren't give equal rights until over a century later. OMG! Don't get me started!
Sure, yeah, all that but way more polite than your portrayal. That’s why they couched all their racist elitism in a cloak of egalitarian lip service. I’m just suggesting they be taken at their disingenuous word.
I still think it has hallmarks of a gang shooting. But we shall see. Apparently BPD is still searching for the suspects. Apparently, there is a video of a suspect floating around, but I could not find it.
Carol Anderson is a race huckster. Besides, a similar argument is made about police - left wing police defunders and abolitionists keep claiming that the origin of US policing is slave catchers. Complete bollocks, of course, in addition to being genetic fallacy.
It's not just the lack of desire, although vast majority is against repealing the 2nd.
One in five is a small minority. So to say that "there is some desire to get rid of it" is misleading at best. A larger fraction wants to change it, but, alas, still a minority.
So just a little over a third of Democrats supports a repeal, and less than a third of blacks and Northeasterners do.Christoher Ingraham @ WaPo said:
That's of course, still less than 50%.
DC v. Heller, in 2008, so it was the last year of GW Bush actually. 5-4, along ideological lines.
Well the wording is a bit
It's pretty amazing that in a thread about a black-on-black mass shooting you still find a way to blame whitey.
And what does that have to do with the subject of this thread?
It's a lot easier to find out about them. A gang shooting like this one would probably not be on the news in Atlanta 30 years ago, but with the Internet it's a lot easier to disseminate local news stories quickly and widely.
I don't agree with relaxation of gun laws in Georgia, but I doubt the persons who shot up this block party were legal gun owners. Maryland has very strict gun laws, but that does not prevent gangbangers to have more than enough.
And some Dems want to lower voting age to 16. Both do it because they think it will help them electorally.Oh and if you haven't noticed, some Republicans want to raise the voting age to 25, but I haven't heard a peep from them wanting to raise the age for gun ownership.
And to the Constitution drafters "press" meant manually set lead type. A literal press.
Not this shit again. Combat weapons are strictly regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934.
My statement was 100% accurate. "some desire" is more than "no desire". What do you think "some" means? It does not mean "most", "a lot", or "all". "Some" can be a small amount. I even provided polling data, so the notion that I was being misleading is absurd.
Accurate but misleading. You know what you are doing.
I said, other than Carol Anderson. And, the more I read, the more likely it is, that the Southern slave holders had some influence on the 2nd Amendment. Don't tell us that our country wasn't started by a bunch of white racist males. Sure, those times were different and they may have done a few good things, but they were also European elitists who believed white males were better than everyone else. For fuck's sake, they didn't even consider black people to be fully human and they killed off huge numbers of Indigenous people. WTF!
