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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Twitter Split On Old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Border Photos - "Conservatives have feelings about old photos from AOC’s border visit resurfacing"
Many people found the photos to be moving.
but
A large contingent of conservative also criticized them for looking “staged” or for being part of a “performance.” However, it wasn’t Ocasio-Cortez who shared the photos, and it was she who went to a detention center a year ago, highlighting a cause she has continued to rail against since taking office.

I finally found it: FULL Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez TYT Interview - YouTube Like her talking about her exposing a military contractor who had grotesquely overcharged for some small part. She doesn't want to run new candidates for the sake of clearing out Congress -- she wants progressive candidates in office. Not surprisingly, she doesn't find very convincing Joe Biden's claim that he has a very progressive record.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Unimaginable Reality of American Concentration Camps | The New Yorker
Like many arguments, the fight over the term “concentration camp” is mostly an argument about something entirely different. It is not about terminology. Almost refreshingly, it is not an argument about facts. This argument is about imagination, and it may be a deeper, more important conversation than it seems.
After noting AOC vs. Liz Cheney,
A high-pitched battle of tweets and op-eds took off down the much travelled dead-end road of arguments about historical analogies. These almost never go well, and they always devolve into a virtual shouting match if the Holocaust, the Nazis, or Adolf Hitler is invoked. One side always argues that nothing can be as bad as the Holocaust, therefore nothing can be compared to it; the other argues that the cautionary lesson of history can be learned only by acknowledging the similarities between now and then.

But the argument is really about how we perceive history, ourselves, and ourselves in history.

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Donald Trump has played this trick on Americans many times, beginning with his very election: first, he was impossible, and then he was President.
 
lpetrich, you're slipping.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Accused of Holding 'Photo Op' in 'Pristine White Outfit' at Migrant Child Tent City—It Was Actually a Protest
While both Aguirre and Ocasio-Cortez shared the photos to mark a powerful moment, many on Twitter were critical of the images, accusing Ocasio-Cortez of holding a "photo op" outside the Tornillo tent city, with critics scrutinizing the politician's decision to wear red lipstick and an all-white outfit during her visit.

"Excuse me while I take the time to put on bright red lipstick, a pristine white outfit and a Movado watch before I go see little kids locked up in the desert," one commentator wrote, mocking Ocasio-Cortez.

"Nice photo session in your lily white outfit n big red mouth," another wrote. "All that dramatic crying...you're a piece of work! This looks like a photo shoot for a magazine."

Another branded Ocasio-Cortez "disgusting" for "wearing all white and posing next to those fences...Please...This is so petty."
However,
Organizers of immigration protests at the time had been encouraging participants to wear white, with Families Belong Together, an organization supporting families separated by the Trump administration, saying it is a "striking visual symbol that will also connect attendees in solidarity to each other and channel historic social justice movements unified by one color of clothing."

Elsewhere in the clothing front, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Taking notes on the #DemDebate to share tonight on @colbertlateshow! 🇺🇸 https://t.co/k8wMX6iGHH" / Twitter showed her wearing a purple-pink jacket and pants with a black shirt.
Her appearance: The Late Show on Twitter: ".@AOC thinks climate change wasn't covered enough last night. #DemDebate LateShowLIVE [url]https://t.co/kZYagT26eF https://t.co/AmvFQ0zQqR" / Twitter[/url]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Mitch McConnell killed the House border $ over “poison pill riders.” What are the “poison pills” he’s talking about? Protections for kids & punishment for inhumane facility co’s. The GOP is heightening children‘s pain for political gain. It’s horrifying.https://t.co/TBoPu3bW1d" / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "His Senate bill is a militarization bill. McConnell killed the House Bill & dropped this one right before recess to force passage. Well, too bad. This is our job. Cancel vacation, fly the Senate in. Pass a clean humanitarian bill & stop trying to squeeze crises for more pain." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "In meeting I asked “Why can the president take money from other agencies to build his little wall, but can’t move money to get kids toothpaste?” It’s bc his “nat’l emergency” is ONLY to build his wall. But he won’t declare an emergency to save these kids & get them help." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This President will not lift a finger to save these kids. It is well within his power, but he & Mitch McConnell would rather cast blame than do anything. They need to get on board w/ a clean humanitarian bill. We can’t write no-strings blank checks to abusive facilities." / Twitter
How much is Mitch McConnell getting in return for not sending pResident tRump anything that he is likely to veto? When tRump yells at him about something, does he yell back anything like "I'm saving your ass! I'm doing you a BIG favor!! Remember that!!!"?

Even if the only thing that might get to him is something involving transport projects in his home state.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Congress gets a Gold plan that we pick off the ACA exchange. Spoiler: Insurance is STILL a pain. I had the “consumer choice” of picking btwn 56 diff plans that were all tough to distinguish. There was a comparison web tool & it’s still confusing. Healthcare > insurance any day. https://t.co/j7wpv92eST" / Twitter noting Face The Nation on Twitter: "@ewarren & @BilldeBlasio alone raise their hands to say they would abolish private #HealthCare and establish a public only option." / Twitter
I myself think that it should be a "public option" rather than outlawing private insurance outright. Something that Obama ought to have included in Obamacare but did not to appease the insurance companies.

Sort of like what she posted half a year ago:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "In my on-boarding to Congress, I get to pick my insurance plan. As a waitress, I had to pay more than TWICE what I’d pay as a member of Congress. It’s frustrating that Congressmembers would deny other people affordability that they themselves enjoy. Time for #MedicareForAll." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Also, pretty sure one Dante’s Circles of Hell includes scrolling through a mirror-hall of agonizingly similar healthcare plans like “UHG Choice Master HMO 1800” vs “RedGo Option Plus EPO 2000.” I don’t know one normal person in this country that actually enjoys open enrollment." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "People don’t want overly complicated choice between pricey, low-quality plans. We want an affordable solution that covers our needs, like the rest of the modern world. Medicare for All: - Single-payer system - Covers physical, mental, & dental care - 0 due *at point of service*" / Twitter
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Under no circumstances should the House vote for a McConnell-only bill w/ no negotiation with Democrats. Hell no. That’s an abdication of power we should refuse to accept. They will keep hurting kids if we do." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "0 negotiation with the House. We offered crucial amendments to protect children and families - none are even being considered. A minority is different than a majority. And while the Senate has to deal with its lack of power there, a House majority should have a seat @ the table." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "We have time. We can stay in town. We can at LEAST add some amendments to this Senate bill. But to pass it completely unamended with no House input? That seems a bridge too far." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This Senate Bill will have us write a $4.6 Billion blank check (incl military $) for the border w NO accountability - just a verbal pinky promise. Trump is not to be trusted with protecting our immigrants. Why must that even be stated? We need hard lines of protection, in ink. https://t.co/xFci23pFo6" / Twitter noting Jamil Smith on Twitter: "This is an inexcusable submission by Nancy Pelosi and the moderate Democrats who apparently prodded her to accept the Senate border funding bill, which offers only the administration’s word that they won’t misuse the $4.6 billion that they’re given. Right. https://t.co/BvdVFezKf5" / Twitter noting a NYTimes article: "Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in a stinging defeat after a show of Democratic disunity, agreed to take up a Senate border spending bill without controls that liberals had demanded."

When the House and the Senate create separate bills for something, they often try to reconcile those bills with a conference committee of Reps and Senators. Doesn't look like that will be happening.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "The Congressional Hispanic Caucus (which is ideologically diverse) concurs, and is officially recommending a NO vote. ⬇️ https://t.co/ZezCeKEgwD" / Twitter noting Hispanic Caucus on Twitter: "The Republicans cannot force us to accept this bill, which does not provide necessary guardrails and allows the Trump Admin to continue denying kids basic, humane care and endangering their lives. @HispanicCaucus recs a NO vote on HR 3401, the Senate Border Supplemental." / Twitter
Aaron Rupar on Twitter: ".@AOC on House moving to pass Senate border bill: "The problem right now and the question at hand is Mitch McConnell sent us a bill & we're putting a big checkmark on it instead of even trying to negotiate...what Mitch McConnell is doing is relying on the time pressure of recess" https://t.co/jBPvlCSMge" / Twitter
She was willing to stay all weekend.
CNN on Twitter: "“We didn’t even bother to negotiate. … We’re immediately going to just saying yes to what got passed out of the Senate,” says Rep. @AOC on Pelosi’s decision to pass the Senate border funding bill. “We are a House majority and we need to act like it.” [url]https://t.co/woictb2LLA https://t.co/iIVuhbc8Mi" / Twitter[/url]
She was asked why she didn't vote for the House version, and that was because it had money for ICE and stuff like that. She wanted a purely humanitarian-assistance bill. She also stated that her district is 50% immigrant and that she is responsible to them. She even stated that President Trump, if he wanted to, could declare a national emergency to fund humanitarian aid, but he doesn't want to.

Rep. Katie Hill on Twitter: "Today I voted NO on Mitch McConnell's border bill. The bill was a rush job that reflects the worst of Washington – exactly what I ran against. I would rather have worked a long weekend and drafted a bill that actually keeps kids safe and reflects our values. My full statement: https://t.co/yZthG4f9vO" / Twitter
Ryan Grim on Twitter: "Here's @AOC accurately diagnosing the sadism at work in the border crisis: “They should not be using a humanitarian crisis as a bargaining chip...to pursue their little torture project.” (And on Liz Cheney: "I'm done with her.") https://t.co/TFXzL1AIJO" / Twitter noting The Intercept on Twitter: "Rep. @AOC responds to Republicans who say a physical barrier should be part of a border funding bill: “They should not be using a humanitarian crisis as a bargaining chip.” https://t.co/OHyBEsPK7v" / Twitter

Rep. Ro Khanna on Twitter: "I voted no on the Senate bill. Standing up for human rights requires more than providing money. We gave the Administration $40 million more than they asked in 2019 for supplies. But they still deprived children of diapers & soap. We need a law that clearly outlaws the abuses. https://t.co/30KkC68KYy" / Twitter noting The New York Times on Twitter: "Breaking News: Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to pass the Senate's border aid bill without restrictions. It was a stinging defeat after a show of Democratic disunity. https://t.co/fUetEyeQvJ" / Twitter
Hispanic Caucus on Twitter: "“When @HispanicCaucus members see suffering at the border, we see our children and our grandchildren. What happened today is unacceptable, and we will not forget this betrayal.” Read our full statement on the passage of the border supplemental ⬇️ [url]https://t.co/YzJBLGIhub https://t.co/mWWggIiZvQ" / Twitter[/url]
 
Thanx, blastula. She liked the Democratic candidates speaking Spanish, and she pronounced Julián Castro's name in Spanish fashion. She said that it is too early for her to endorse any individual candidate.

Here's a blast from the past, not long after she defeated Joe Crowley: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - Bringing Moral Courage to American Politics | The Daily Show - YouTube

Saikat Chakrabarti on Twitter: "Can we stop calling the Blue Dog Caucus "fiscally conservative but socially liberal?" I missed the part of fiscal conservativeness or social liberalness that includes wasting $4.5 billion of taxpayer money to put kids in concentration camps." / Twitter

Jamil Smith on Twitter: "This is why I wrote that @AOC, @IlhanMN, @AyannaPressley, and @RashidaTlaib were right to oppose even the House bill, which offered stronger restrictions on border funding. You cannot trust this administration with a dime while they are torturing children. https://t.co/HyasrwLwsO" / Twitter noting How the System Helps Trump Abuse Children – Rolling Stone
Under George W. Bush, spiking criminal proceedings for illegal entry — sparked by the “zero-tolerance” (sound familiar?) Homeland Security/DOJ initiative Operation Streamline — raised “serious due process concerns” with the ACLU. In addition to their well-earned reputation for mass deportations, the Obama administration created new family detention centers in 2014. Even Sarah Fabian, that same Justice Department lawyer who was arguing for the Trump administration to deny migrant children basic toiletries, argued during the Obama years that the government should be able to lock up children in solitary confinement.

However, it is the conditions in the CBP facility that remain the most lasting injustice. Aura Bogado reported that year for Colorlines and Race Forward on hieleras, or “iceboxes,” the rooms where migrant children are placed for processing that are left so cold the kids are left to feel as though they are freezing. The ACLU of Arizona successfully sued in 2015 to stop the practice, but the Trump administration has continued the use of hieleras, which were connected to at least two migrant deaths in 2018.

It should be noted that there were no deaths of migrant children during Obama’s two terms in office, and there have been several while Trump has been president. Cruelty is not an accident, and thus things have gotten much, much worse for migrants either being held in United States facilities or in overheated Mexican encampments that have been set up across the border in response to Trump’s hardline border stance.
 
Thanx, blastula. She liked the Democratic candidates speaking Spanish, and she pronounced Julián Castro's name in Spanish fashion. She said that it is too early for her to endorse any individual candidate.
Yeah... I'd say so. I don't care who she endorses, she hasn't even served a single term in office yet. She can choose to support a candidate, but "endorse"? That is cart before the horse.
 
Cuomo's the one talking out of his ass, which isn't unusual for him. AOC did not compare the border camps to the Holocaust, she called them concentration camps, which have existed since the 19th century.

With WWII the meaning of the term "concentration camp" changed. I think she purposely invoked a Nazi reference to score political points instead of innocently and ignorantly using an archaic definition. She knows full well what she is doing by calling the detention centers "concentration camps".
 
The Last Prosecutor From the Nuremberg Trials Says We’re Committing Crimes Against Humanity

AOC retweeted Kamala Harris on Twitter: "We have a president who believes in science fiction. I believe in science fact. Climate change is real and we're in the midst of a climate crisis. We need a #GreenNewDeal and as president, on day one, America will rejoin the Paris Agreement. #DemDemate" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Yep, amusing how some think GOP calling Dems socialists is a new thing. a) they’ve called us it (at least) since FDR b) GOP has no idea what economic democracy is The whole goal of this attack is to get Dems to back off fighting for the economic rights of working class people. https://t.co/H5c1sEjMbc" / Twitter noting elizabeth bruenig on Twitter: "oh god, imagine republicans calling us socialists. what would we do. how would we survive" / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "It’s worked in recent history, btw - which is why they keep doing it. It got Dems to kill the public option years ago (imagine the last decade w a public option!) I *wish* the party was as bold as GOP accuses. We’d win more, imo." / Twitter
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "The emperor has no clothes: the GOP truly has no plan, no agenda, & no positive vision for the future of the United States. We will win if we fight unapologetically for the future of ALL people - incl healthcare, education, labor, human rights, & dignity. https://t.co/gaWTfvumGB" / Twitter
noting some video of Donald Trump denouncing socialism. She thinks that he is scared.

Emma Green on Twitter: ""We know exactly where Christ is, because he told us. He’s with the sick and the jailed and the hungry. He’s in those camps with those suffering children. And we need to be there, too." What a piece, @CaitlinPacific. https://t.co/UAHJ0k8m8d" / Twitter noting Migrant Children Are Suffering. Christians Can Help. - The Atlantic
 
With WWII the meaning of the term "concentration camp" changed. I think she purposely invoked a Nazi reference to score political points instead of innocently and ignorantly using an archaic definition. She knows full well what she is doing by calling the detention centers "concentration camps".

With WW2, "Concentration Camp" is how we described the centers where Japanese-Americans (and a few other groups) were forced into indefinitely while their land was often sold without compensating them.
 
She's correct even within the Nazi context. The Nazi camps weren't death camps on day one, it took years, nor were they all death camps.
 
AOC's chief of staff deletes tweet attacking Blue Dog Caucus as 'New Southern Democrats' | Fox News
Saikat Chakrabarti @saikatc
Instead of "fiscally conservative but socially liberal," let's call the New Democrats and Blue Dog Caucus the "New Southern Democrats." They certainly seem hell bent to do to black and brown people today what the old Southern Democrats did in the 40s.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "“Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.” https://t.co/wS8C0tdIOW" / Twitter noting Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons on Twitter: ""Democratic socialism and the Bible share a strikingly similar vision of what constitutes a fair and just society... If Christians took the Bible seriously on this point, activist politicians like @AOC would not excite such vigorous opposition" [url]https://t.co/dk9zKrE0hb https://t.co/GvZag2QTPD" / Twitter[/url] noting The Biblical Values of Ocasio-Cortez's Democratic Socialism | Sojourners
Seems a bit like making the Bible in their likeness, though that book does state that "the love of money is the root of all evil" and "you cannot serve both God and money". It also features Jesus Christ's Temple temper tantrum, driving all those businessmen out of the Jerusalem Temple, and JC giving out lots of handouts.
 

And just how well is the 99 year old, possibly senile, former prosecutor informed about the matter?
Is he, for example, aware of the Flores decision that made the family separations necessary?
Is he aware of the fact that over 100,000 mass migrants per month are showing up at the border?
Is he aware of misusing asylum claims for economic migration?
 

We definitely do not need Democrats becoming god-botherers as well.

Seems a bit like making the Bible in their likeness, though that book does state that "the love of money is the root of all evil" and "you cannot serve both God and money". It also features Jesus Christ's Temple temper tantrum, driving all those businessmen out of the Jerusalem Temple, and JC giving out lots of handouts.
Don't forget the story of Ananias and Sapphira from Acts. God smote them because they did not give up all their money to the communal treasury.

The "socialist Jesus" is nothing new for Democrats. Who here remembers Al Franken's Supply Side Jesus?
 
She's correct even within the Nazi context. The Nazi camps weren't death camps on day one, it took years, nor were they all death camps.

Not even at the beginning were the concentration camps anything like these detention centers.
Hell, these detention centers are not even like the internment camps for Japanese. Big difference between detaining your citizens just because of their ethnicity and detaining mass migrants (and citizens of other countries like El Salvador or Honduras) who are inundating your border until you can adjudicate their claims (which is going slow because of sheer numbers).
 
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