The thing this person who survived some horrific stuff doesn't understand is that the conditions these people are being subjected to would be against the Geneva Accords. These people are seeking asylum and the administration is quite fine with committing acts that dehumanize these people. Sure, the Trump Admin aren't Nazis, but once again, the US used "concentration camps" in WWI (Germans) and WWII (Japanese). And both of those (of those that also know of the prior) are considered ethically bankrupt actions by the Government.93-year-old Holocaust survivor wants AOC out of congress, given 'Nobel Prize in stupidity' for concentration camp comments.
CALEB HOWE
While Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and her friends in the media, are quintupling down on comparing American detention facilities to concentration camps, a survivor of the real concentration camps in Nazi Germany is livid, and speaking out.
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Ed Mosberg is 93 years old, and is one of the few people still alive who survived the Nazi camps. He lives in Morris Plains, NJ, and he spoke to the New York Post about the freshman congresswoman's comments.
"She should be removed from Congress. She's spreading anti-Semitism, hatred and stupidity," he said to the paper. "The people on the border aren't forced to be there — they go there on their own will. If someone doesn't know the difference, either they're playing stupid or they just don't care."
Even if he is right, it is irrelevant. Even if Japanese internment camps were referred to as "concentration camps" contemporaneously, since the Nazi atrocities became known, that term was forever linked with Nazi camps.
AOC is deliberately using that term because of its Nazi connections. She knows full well what she is doing, no matter the technicalities.
The thing this person who survived some horrific stuff doesn't understand is that the conditions these people are being subjected to would be against the Geneva Accords. These people are seeking asylum and the administration is quite fine with committing acts that dehumanize these people. Sure, the Trump Admin aren't Nazis, but once again, the US used "concentration camps" in WWI (Germans) and WWII (Japanese). And both of those (of those that also know of the prior) are considered ethically bankrupt actions by the Government.93-year-old Holocaust survivor wants AOC out of congress, given 'Nobel Prize in stupidity' for concentration camp comments.
CALEB HOWE
While Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and her friends in the media, are quintupling down on comparing American detention facilities to concentration camps, a survivor of the real concentration camps in Nazi Germany is livid, and speaking out.
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Ed Mosberg is 93 years old, and is one of the few people still alive who survived the Nazi camps. He lives in Morris Plains, NJ, and he spoke to the New York Post about the freshman congresswoman's comments.
"She should be removed from Congress. She's spreading anti-Semitism, hatred and stupidity," he said to the paper. "The people on the border aren't forced to be there — they go there on their own will. If someone doesn't know the difference, either they're playing stupid or they just don't care."
No one should have to endure what the victims of the Holocaust endured. But nor should others have to endure what the Germans and Japanese did in the US in the first half of the 20th century. What the Nazis did isn't the basis for what is considered morally reprehensible.
As I keep trying to say, they don't need to be Nazis to be bad people.The thing this person who survived some horrific stuff doesn't understand is that the conditions these people are being subjected to would be against the Geneva Accords. These people are seeking asylum and the administration is quite fine with committing acts that dehumanize these people. Sure, the Trump Admin aren't Nazis, but once again, the US used "concentration camps" in WWI (Germans) and WWII (Japanese). And both of those (of those that also know of the prior) are considered ethically bankrupt actions by the Government.93-year-old Holocaust survivor wants AOC out of congress, given 'Nobel Prize in stupidity' for concentration camp comments.
CALEB HOWE
While Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and her friends in the media, are quintupling down on comparing American detention facilities to concentration camps, a survivor of the real concentration camps in Nazi Germany is livid, and speaking out.
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Ed Mosberg is 93 years old, and is one of the few people still alive who survived the Nazi camps. He lives in Morris Plains, NJ, and he spoke to the New York Post about the freshman congresswoman's comments.
"She should be removed from Congress. She's spreading anti-Semitism, hatred and stupidity," he said to the paper. "The people on the border aren't forced to be there — they go there on their own will. If someone doesn't know the difference, either they're playing stupid or they just don't care."
No one should have to endure what the victims of the Holocaust endured. But nor should others have to endure what the Germans and Japanese did in the US in the first half of the 20th century. What the Nazis did isn't the basis for what is considered morally reprehensible.
Just because the POTUS's daughter converted to Judaism and just because they don't wear armbands or swastikas (yet) doesn't mean they aren't Nazis. If it walks like a duck and all of that. Except for the name and a few other changes, the story's the same one as Neil Diamond would say.
Even if he is right, it is irrelevant. Even if Japanese internment camps were referred to as "concentration camps" contemporaneously, since the Nazi atrocities became known, that term was forever linked with Nazi camps.
AOC is deliberately using that term because of its Nazi connections. She knows full well what she is doing, no matter the technicalities.
Derec is right. Since WW2 we can no longer use the term "concentration camp" to refer to anything other than a Nazi extermination camp. But that frees up the term "death camp" for use, since the new meaning of "concentration camp" makes it redundant. So, we should adjust our nomenclature, and call these modern not-concentration-camps "death camps". Thanks for the heads up, Derec.
Maybe the correct way to respond is "I agree... the Trump Administration isn't being as bad as the Nazis. Congrats!"Even if he is right, it is irrelevant. Even if Japanese internment camps were referred to as "concentration camps" contemporaneously, since the Nazi atrocities became known, that term was forever linked with Nazi camps.
AOC is deliberately using that term because of its Nazi connections. She knows full well what she is doing, no matter the technicalities.
Derec is right. Since WW2 we can no longer use the term "concentration camp" to refer to anything other than a Nazi extermination camp. But that frees up the term "death camp" for use, since the new meaning of "concentration camp" makes it redundant. So, we should adjust our nomenclature, and call these modern not-concentration-camps "death camps". Thanks for the heads up, Derec.
The right-wing is already using the term death camps. They're using it as a scare tactic trying hard, but in reality they are non-existent FEMA camps not implemented by Democratic Presidents, like Operation Jade Helm or ObamaCare. Next non-existent death camp will be the ones that doctors have to create from Medicare for All implementation...
Democrats need to stop being so tepid and frightened over terminology. AOC is right. She doesn't have to apologize. Republicans have to apologize for what they are doing to children.
Yeah, especially when it's been shown that we could house these people at a nice (as in 4-star or better) hotel and save money. As with everything else with the trumpkins, it's all about the cruelty, and the grifting.She's correct even within the Nazi context. The Nazi camps weren't death camps on day one, it took years, nor were they all death camps.
Not even at the beginning were the concentration camps anything like these detention centers.
Hell, these detention centers are not even like the internment camps for Japanese. Big difference between detaining your citizens just because of their ethnicity and detaining mass migrants (and citizens of other countries like El Salvador or Honduras) who are inundating your border until you can adjudicate their claims (which is going slow because of sheer numbers).
Really? I don't see any difference aside from the absolute shameful inhumanity in separating young children from parents and then caging them and denying them warm beds, clean water, the ability to bathe or be bathed, education, health care, loving human contact.
Don't you worry about blank, I'll worry about blank.ABC NEWS’S JONATHAN KARL: I’m sure you saw the exchange between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on the issue of federal busing — federally mandated busing. Biden thought that was a bad policy; he tried to stop it. Kamala Harris said it was an important part of desegregation, including in her own experience. Where do you stand on that issue of federally mandated busing?
TRUMP: First of all, before we get into that, I thought that she was given too much credit. ... And as far as that, I will tell you in about four weeks, because we’re coming out with a certain policy that’s going to be very interesting and very surprising, I think, to a lot of people. Jennifer, do you have a question?
In trying to cover for not knowing what she was talking about... or apparently not knowing what happened in the US in the 60s and 70s... he actually exposes his 'I have a plan coming out on blank' bullshit. Else... yeah, the US would be "very surprised" if he did come out with a plan on busing.
But to be fair to the AOC obsessed... Trump is only a President, Ocasio Cortez is a freshman Representative which means she is in a much higher position of authority.
TRUMP: First of all, before we get into that, I thought that she was given too much credit. ... And as far as that, I will tell you in about four weeks, because we’re coming out with a certain policy that’s going to be very interesting and very surprising, I think, to a lot of people. Jennifer, do you have a question?Don't you worry about blank, I'll worry about blank.
In trying to cover for not knowing what she was talking about... or apparently not knowing what happened in the US in the 60s and 70s... he actually exposes his 'I have a plan coming out on blank' bullshit. Else... yeah, the US would be "very surprised" if he did come out with a plan on busing.
But to be fair to the AOC obsessed... Trump is only a President, Ocasio Cortez is a freshman Representative which means she is in a much higher position of authority.
Yep, he went to his favorite go-to bluff/evasion "coming out in x weeks." He used to mostly say 2 weeks, lately it's 3 weeks or more. Notice also that in the second answer, 4 weeks has suddenly become 2 months. Greatest bullshitter of all time.
No they are not. And besides, it is difficult to organize care for 100,000s of mass migrants who just show up on your border. Especially when politicians like AOC do not want to fund it.Concentration camps they are.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This just broke: a secret Facebook group of 9,500 CBP officers discussed making a GoFundMe for officers to harm myself & Rep. Escobar during our visit to CBP facilities & mocked migrant deaths.
Oh please! It's just jokes.This isn’t about “a few bad eggs.” This is a violent culture. https://t.co/SkFwThHElx" / Twitter[/url] noting Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes — ProPublica
When you have security it ends up costing more. If these mass migrants are put in hotels, they can just walk out and disappear to sanctuary cities where it's very difficult to deport them again.Yeah, especially when it's been shown that we could house these people at a nice (as in 4-star or better) hotel and save money. As with everything else with the trumpkins, it's all about the cruelty, and the grifting.
Derec, what is a real concentration camp? Do the British concentration camps of the Boer War qualify? The US ones in the Philippines in the Spanish-American War? The US ones for Japanese-Americans in WWII?No they are not.lpetrich said:Concentration camps they are.
AOC wanted purely humanitarian aid, not the bullshit that Mitch McConnell and his friends added on.And besides, it is difficult to organize care for 100,000s of mass migrants who just show up on your border. Especially when politicians like AOC do not want to fund it.
For them to harm her.For AOC to harm herself? How would they convince her to harm herself?Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This just broke: a secret Facebook group of 9,500 CBP officers discussed making a GoFundMe for officers to harm myself & Rep. Escobar during our visit to CBP facilities & mocked migrant deaths.
Derec, if someone talked about how great it would be to neuter you in the literal anatomical sense, would you dismiss it as a joke?Oh please! It's just jokes.This isn’t about “a few bad eggs.” This is a violent culture. https://t.co/SkFwThHElx" / Twitter[/url] noting Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes — ProPublica
As I keep trying to say, they don't need to be Nazis to be bad people.Just because the POTUS's daughter converted to Judaism and just because they don't wear armbands or swastikas (yet) doesn't mean they aren't Nazis. If it walks like a duck and all of that. Except for the name and a few other changes, the story's the same one as Neil Diamond would say.