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America falls - Moscow, Beijing, and Jerusalem celebrate

It is almost certain that the criminal Trump will become the 47th POTUS. What will this mean?
US will withdraw military aid from Ukraine, and encourage Russia to ramp up its invasion.
With the coming collapse of the US economy, China becomes the sole superpower.
Israel receives increased military aid, and Trump doesn't care how many more Palestinians are exterminated.
Is there any hope? A thin one, that the US military recalls their oath about domestic enemies. Will this happen? No, the US military lacks courage and commitment.
When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the German military gave him their support, and we know what that led to - about 100 million dead.

RIP USA 1776 -2025.

Trump will contact Putin for further instructions. Vance will use Trump, and then discard him, so as to become POTUS.
EDIT: It seems Trump will also control the new Senate, and already has the Supreme Court in his pocket, and will be able to appoint new members to it unopposed.
It’s bad. But it’s not the end. We must continue to resist and fight.
Eh, what else do I have to do really? I'm an openly gay public educator. If these Project 2025 people have their way, it'll be a choice of resistance or prison for me within a few years. But I think we can delay their plans far beyond that schedule. Actually, I think their own mean-spirited incompetence will delay their plans far beyond that schedule. It took these knuckleheads 50 years to take down Roe.

But I wish more of the common public weren't marching spiritedly back to the tycoon era. Even if they don't succeed, I think the struggle is going to destabilize this country's government beyond easy repair, and allow international actors to replace our role on the public stage, to their benefit but our considerable detriment.
Probably so. Resist nonetheless
 
Say goodbye to Ukraine. Let the massacres begin.

Say goodbye to Gazans and west bank Palestinians. Let the massacres begin.
But . . . but . . . but . . . Trump promised there'd be peace in the world because foreign leaders would do what he says!!! :cry:
 
You mean I personally responsible for the Trump's victory?
Cool, I should charge for my services. What is Trump's address? I need to send an invoice.
You are personally responsible for your part in that victory. How obtuse are you going to pretend to be?
 
Say goodbye to Ukraine. Let the massacres begin.

Say goodbye to Gazans and west bank Palestinians. Let the massacres begin.
But . . . but . . . but . . . Trump promised there'd be peace in the world because foreign leaders would do what he says!!! :cry:
There will be peace because he's going to tell foreign leaders to be as bloody as they want to finish up their "final solutions".

Then "peace"*.

*"The peace of the graveyard"
 
Say goodbye to Ukraine. Let the massacres begin.

Say goodbye to Gazans and west bank Palestinians. Let the massacres begin.
But . . . but . . . but . . . Trump promised there'd be peace in the world because foreign leaders would do what he says!!! :cry:
Yes. He will tell Zelensky to surrender and Netanyahu to “do what he has to do”.
 
At this point, I'd almost be willing to accept Chinese global hegemony. At least they're somewhat process oriented, and know how to invest in society now to reap dividends in the future.
Yes and no.

Their government is laudable in their willingness to do things for the long term good. But they are terrible at making the elites actually obey. And they're terrible at changing course when something proves unworkable.

Consider, for example, protecting workers from excessive heat. There are restrictions that come into play when it gets too hot--and a very disproportionate number of days where the weather is just below that point.

And it's cheaper to pay off the officials than to not dump the toxic waste.
 
Say goodbye to Ukraine. Let the massacres begin.

Say goodbye to Gazans and west bank Palestinians. Let the massacres begin.
But . . . but . . . but . . . Trump promised there'd be peace in the world because foreign leaders would do what he says!!! :cry:
Yes. He will tell Zelensky to surrender and Netanyahu to “do what he has to do”.
And if a NATO country doesn't cough up enough $$$$ to suit him, he'll let Russia do "whatever the hell they want to do to them."
Pax Trumpica a-comin'.
 
It is almost certain that the criminal Trump will become the 47th POTUS. What will this mean?
US will withdraw military aid from Ukraine, and encourage Russia to ramp up its invasion.
With the coming collapse of the US economy, China becomes the sole superpower.
Israel receives increased military aid, and Trump doesn't care how many more Palestinians are exterminated.
Is there any hope? A thin one, that the US military recalls their oath about domestic enemies. Will this happen? No, the US military lacks courage and commitment.
When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the German military gave him their support, and we know what that led to - about 100 million dead.

RIP USA 1776 -2025.

Trump will contact Putin for further instructions. Vance will use Trump, and then discard him, so as to become POTUS.
EDIT: It seems Trump will also control the new Senate, and already has the Supreme Court in his pocket, and will be able to appoint new members to it unopposed.
At this point, I'd almost be willing to accept Chinese global hegemony. At least they're somewhat process oriented, and know how to invest in society now to reap dividends in the future.
Yes. The Great leap Forward was very process oriented.
 
It is almost certain that the criminal Trump will become the 47th POTUS. What will this mean?
US will withdraw military aid from Ukraine, and encourage Russia to ramp up its invasion.
With the coming collapse of the US economy, China becomes the sole superpower.
Israel receives increased military aid, and Trump doesn't care how many more Palestinians are exterminated.
Is there any hope? A thin one, that the US military recalls their oath about domestic enemies. Will this happen? No, the US military lacks courage and commitment.
When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the German military gave him their support, and we know what that led to - about 100 million dead.

RIP USA 1776 -2025.

Trump will contact Putin for further instructions. Vance will use Trump, and then discard him, so as to become POTUS.
EDIT: It seems Trump will also control the new Senate, and already has the Supreme Court in his pocket, and will be able to appoint new members to it unopposed.
At this point, I'd almost be willing to accept Chinese global hegemony. At least they're somewhat process oriented, and know how to invest in society now to reap dividends in the future.
Yes. The Great leap Forward was very process oriented.
Hmm, what was the US doing in 1960...
 
It is almost certain that the criminal Trump will become the 47th POTUS. What will this mean?
US will withdraw military aid from Ukraine, and encourage Russia to ramp up its invasion.
With the coming collapse of the US economy, China becomes the sole superpower.
Israel receives increased military aid, and Trump doesn't care how many more Palestinians are exterminated.
Is there any hope? A thin one, that the US military recalls their oath about domestic enemies. Will this happen? No, the US military lacks courage and commitment.
When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the German military gave him their support, and we know what that led to - about 100 million dead.

RIP USA 1776 -2025.

Trump will contact Putin for further instructions. Vance will use Trump, and then discard him, so as to become POTUS.
EDIT: It seems Trump will also control the new Senate, and already has the Supreme Court in his pocket, and will be able to appoint new members to it unopposed.
At this point, I'd almost be willing to accept Chinese global hegemony. At least they're somewhat process oriented, and know how to invest in society now to reap dividends in the future.
Yes. The Great leap Forward was very process oriented.
Hmm, what was the US doing in 1960...
Not slaughtering their own people for a start. And yes, before you mention it, there was a place in SE Asia called Vietnam.
 
It is almost certain that the criminal Trump will become the 47th POTUS. What will this mean?
US will withdraw military aid from Ukraine, and encourage Russia to ramp up its invasion.
With the coming collapse of the US economy, China becomes the sole superpower.
Israel receives increased military aid, and Trump doesn't care how many more Palestinians are exterminated.
Is there any hope? A thin one, that the US military recalls their oath about domestic enemies. Will this happen? No, the US military lacks courage and commitment.
When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, the German military gave him their support, and we know what that led to - about 100 million dead.

RIP USA 1776 -2025.

Trump will contact Putin for further instructions. Vance will use Trump, and then discard him, so as to become POTUS.
EDIT: It seems Trump will also control the new Senate, and already has the Supreme Court in his pocket, and will be able to appoint new members to it unopposed.
At this point, I'd almost be willing to accept Chinese global hegemony. At least they're somewhat process oriented, and know how to invest in society now to reap dividends in the future.
Yes. The Great leap Forward was very process oriented.
Hmm, what was the US doing in 1960...
Not slaughtering their own people for a start. And yes, before you mention it, there was a place in SE Asia called Vietnam.
That is true.
 
I will not speculate on the course of the wars of Russian and Israeli aggression. Like it or not, Ukraine has been a traditional part of the Russian Empire for MANY centuries. But in contrast Russian interests will argue against aggression to the West of the USSR border.

As during Trump-45, Putin will work closely with his major asset in D.C., though Trump will need to play-act some enmity. The War in the Ukraine may continue, both big powers happy to use it as a laboratory to test new military methods and tech. The value of the Trump-Putin alliance diminishes greatly if it becomes overt, so both sides must disclaim each other publicly. Major intelligence agencies won't be fooled, but there will be deniability aimed at U.S. citizens.

In Russia the mood is indifference with slight bias towards .... Kamalla.
Trump is too much uncertainty and bad publicity. His first term was blamed on Russia (without any evidence)
The second term can only be worse in that sense. Democrat establishment will triple down on their "Russia did it" campaign.
On the other hand, with Kamalla we have indication that she is not interested in war on Russia.
With Trump, the only hope is that Vance will be able to take over and calm down democrat wing of the Deep State.

If by "in Russia" you refer to the Putin crime family, you are Wrong Again! Putin's joy at the Trump election overflows, but as I just explained he must needs conceal his glee in public.
 
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people which wish for US to crash and burn. But this is merely a rhetorics and reaction to your aggression. And Putin is certainly not one of these people. He wants normal relations.
Well, he certainly has a funny way of showing his desires because invading Ukraine is not sending that signal at all.
 
I hope Mr. Biden as a parting gift to Ukraine and Mr. Turmp gives Ukraine carte blanche with the use of our weapons. Let the great dealmaker clean up that mess.
 
You mean I personally responsible for the Trump's victory?
Cool, I should charge for my services. What is Trump's address? I need to send an invoice.
You are personally responsible for your part in that victory. How obtuse are you going to pretend to be?
yeah barbos did it!
Spot the fallacy: "I didn't do all of it therefore I didn't do any of it"
I hated all three candidates, Harris less so for obvious reasons. And you make me responsible for Trump's victory?
 
You mean I personally responsible for the Trump's victory?
Cool, I should charge for my services. What is Trump's address? I need to send an invoice.
You are personally responsible for your part in that victory. How obtuse are you going to pretend to be?
yeah barbos did it!
Spot the fallacy: "I didn't do all of it therefore I didn't do any of it"
I hated all three candidates, Harris less so for obvious reasons. And you make me responsible for Trump's victory?
No, you clearly had a significant bias in apologizing for Trump through this whole process. Regardless of who you claim now to have hated, you spent a lot of time talking about how Trump was better (or at least no worse than) Harris at the time.

The reality? Russia (Moscow, Putin, the people who "matter") likes how the election went

 
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