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Like I said the movement was attacked by every major top down power system that existed.
Oh what a surprise.
The tide came in.
The damn fools never expected such a thing.
Like I said the movement was attacked by every major top down power system that existed.
That the people can govern themselves, which has never been shown to work. Its been tried in Utopian societies in the US in the past. The closest one gets to it are the Amish. And they suck from the teat of state and local Government, as well as being within the reach of the judicial system.You wish.
Where were you in the 60s, Unter? What were you doing?
I knew more about anarchism by 1965 than you ever will.
What is a guiding principle of anarchism?
Just one.
Like I said the movement was attacked by every major top down power system that existed.
Oh what a surprise.
The tide came in.
The damn fools never expected such a thing.
That isn't particularly accurate. Who specifically makes those decisions, what is and isn't necessary? Gonna have a large vote or people to determine if the Third District Court of Appeals is necessary?That the people can govern themselves, which has never been shown to work. Its been tried in Utopian societies in the US in the past. The closest one gets to it are the Amish. And they suck from the teat of state and local Government, as well as being within the reach of the judicial system.
That is not anarchism.
Anarchism is the examination of structures of power and making determinations about them.
If they are not necessary they are dismantled.
The Anarchist would remove as much hierarchical power as possible.
Like I said the movement was attacked by every major top down power system that existed.
Oh what a surprise.
The tide came in.
The damn fools never expected such a thing.
Yes the victims of Hitler and Mussolini and the fascist Franco were to blame for their attacks.
Interesting to see you are on the side of fascism and Hitler here.
The capitalist will support Hitler before they support greater freedom.
That isn't particularly accurate. Who specifically makes those decisions, what is and isn't necessary? Gonna have a large vote or people to determine if the Third District Court of Appeals is necessary?That the people can govern themselves, which has never been shown to work. Its been tried in Utopian societies in the US in the past. The closest one gets to it are the Amish. And they suck from the teat of state and local Government, as well as being within the reach of the judicial system.
That is not anarchism.
Anarchism is the examination of structures of power and making determinations about them.
If they are not necessary they are dismantled.
The Anarchist would remove as much hierarchical power as possible.
When one says they just want to examine the power structure, they sound like they are full of shit. The anarchists equivalent to "stop wasteful spending in Government", because that power structure has been around for a while. So what exactly do we rid the US of "hierarchical" power wise? The Fed, Measures and Weights, Courts,
The anarchist will resort to cute little quips (usually calling others "Hitler supporters") to shore up their fantasies before dealing with reality.
Stunning ignorance.
The anarchist will resort to cute little quips (usually calling others "Hitler supporters") to shore up their fantasies before dealing with reality.
Stunning ignorance.
You mean they willuseDENY actual history to determine who is being supported.
The Anarchists are weak for not defeating Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, the US and Britain
To beat around the bush?That isn't particularly accurate. Who specifically makes those decisions, what is and isn't necessary? Gonna have a large vote or people to determine if the Third District Court of Appeals is necessary?
When one says they just want to examine the power structure, they sound like they are full of shit. The anarchists equivalent to "stop wasteful spending in Government", because that power structure has been around for a while. So what exactly do we rid the US of "hierarchical" power wise? The Fed, Measures and Weights, Courts,
It is accurate.
It is a central goal of anarchism.
HAW! How disingenuous that you leave it there, not that that is even a workable idea. What else gets torn down by the people who aren't making those decisions? Or will there be more bush beating?To dismantle all illegitimate power structures. Like the boss/worker power structure.
Wow, that is marvelously naive. We don't judge, the system judges itself!The beauty is the Anarchists don't decide which power structures are legitimate.
All power structures must prove themselves they are needed and legitimate to exist.
Wow, that is marvelously naive. We don't judge, the system judges itself!All power structures must prove themselves they are needed and legitimate to exist.
A: Was that a ball or a strike?
B: I dunno, let's ask the ball.
To who?Wow, that is marvelously naive. We don't judge, the system judges itself!All power structures must prove themselves they are needed and legitimate to exist.
A: Was that a ball or a strike?
B: I dunno, let's ask the ball.
?
The power structure must justify itself.
By whom. We know vaccinations are needed and some people don't even bother with them, and that was before Covid-19.It must demonstrate it is needed.
Oh goody... you decided to answer straight up. The people. The people involved, the people in general, the people with expertise in the area of concern? The sociopathic mob that will inevitably seize control locally?The people will decide. Direct referendum.
And yet, when we go see a doctor, we don't then take a vote to see what the prognosis is.The people will decide which power structures have met the burden and will be lawful.
Anarchism unlike capitalism is intertwined with democracy.
Capitalism is an economic model, you are talking about an all encompassing political and economic model (with no details whatsoever) and are beating around the bush about what things need to go. Which means either you haven't bothered to take your idea seriously enough, or you know your ideas are far too radical that you can't defend them.Capitalism is anti-democratic and corrupts democracies.
To who??
The power structure must justify itself.
It must demonstrate it is needed.
By whom. We know vaccinations are needed and some people don't even bother with them, and that was before Covid-19.
The people will decide. Direct referendum.
Oh goody... you decided to answer straight up. The people. The people involved, the people in general, the people with expertise in the area of concern? The sociopathic mob that will inevitably seize control locally?
And yet, when we go see a doctor, we don't then take a vote to see what the prognosis is.
You want to shove 325 million cooks into the kitchen are expecting progress on dinner.
To beat around the bush?
Anarchism President: Okay everyone, it is now time to tear down all of the illegitimate power structures, be it corporate, government, or public service related, but remember, we need to do so in an orderly fashion. So let's getting moving on it. If anyone questions your authority to tear down their illegitimate power structure, remember that you can always have a vote. Now, let's remember that there are an incalculable number of positions we seek to dismember, and it is possible, even likely, that the positions we seek to eradicate might be held by people that don't want to cede their power. So in order to do this right, and to minimize bloodshed, we'll need to be able to have a lot of votes. Hopefully you've downloaded the app onto your smart phone, well... oh... that's right, we already removed the illegitimate authority of cellular companies using airwaves that the public should own, and now the cellular services aren't working as well, because, darn it... who'd have thought appropriating and running a cellular phone monopolies would be so difficult. We are working on improving that, but the committees created to handle it have run into trouble on the basis of deciding who gets to decide how the cellular companies will be run, ie, some people want to just dismantle the whole thing because cell technology is a hinderance to the advancement of mankind, others want to run it based on a consensus within the cell service area, and others want to provide positions within the companies via a revolving workforce to ensure we stay away from reestablishing illegitimate power structures. Sadly, the first group murdered most of the others and we are having to work through that. So... back to the votes on how we decide which power structures need to be abolished in cases where said structures don't want to be abolished, we'll need to have a series of caucuses...Of course this is just the very beginning of Anarchism. After power structures that can't justify themselves are eliminated the power structures remaining are carefully examined to determine what kinds of power and how much power should be allowed.
Anarchism is not about the elimination of order.
Order is desired.
Your silly strawman is noted.
Eliminating illegitimate power structures only requires humans wanting to do it.
You don't care.
You have been made good and useless by a system that does not care.
Your inability to rebut is noted. Again.
Oh, you meant ALL humans. So Jimmy is absolutely correct.
You don't care.
How did you become such an expert on other people's cares and wishes? Magic 8-ball?
No, that can't be it - it is right some of the time.
You have been made good and useless by a system that does not care.
WOW! What a zinger! Do you practice delivering insults in front of a mirror?
Some illiterate who thinks Anarchism is anarchy and posts pictures of Anarchists being attacked by fascists to show how bad Anarchists are?
Did all humans vote and decide that top down immoral capitalism was going to be the system we are trapped in?
Your silly strawman is noted.
Eliminating illegitimate power structures only requires humans wanting to do it.
You don't care.
You have been made good and useless by a system that does not care.