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Are we now in full blown fascist totalitarianism?

Trump supporters may be cruel and sickos but even from a rational psychopath standpoint this is likely to end up bring a political loser for their orange God (and if not, may the US burn in hell and meet its utter demise).

Rationally do they prefer cruelty and sadism more than political support for the orange God?

 
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The tourism industry is a powerhouse of its own, and this kind of crap is not going to endear The Felon to them.
 
UK backpacker in US chained 'like Hannibal Lecter' for doing chores at the house she was staying at:

She was deported because she was in violation of her visa. Which was probably the I-94 tourist visa waver.

TSwizzle you may be cruel and a sicko but even from a rational psychopath standpoint this is likely to end up bring a political loser for your orange God.

Orange God? What are you talking about? Trump? Why would Trump be my god?

Rationally do you prefer cruelty and sadism more than political support for the orange God?

Why do you think it is wrong to deport violent criminals?
 
Why do you think it is wrong to deport violent criminals?
Nobody expressed any such sentiment, and you know it, Swiz. Very dishonest of you.

Why do you support chaining up non violent backpackers ‘like Hannibal Lechter’ for visa “violations”?

The Shithole of Trumpistan seems to be your ideal, Swiz. Ya get to watch the torture of minor offenders, what a thrill eh.

Oh, but this lady looks like a real security threat! She might beat up those good patriotic officers if she’s not restrained!

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Great research paper about immigration law and practices used as terrorism. Highlights with clear examples the fascistic nature of this dictatorship.

Law as a Tool of Terror

The immigration laws and policies of the United States from January 2017 through January 2021 serve as a cautionary example of what may happen when the rule of law and the equitable administration of justice are subverted by policymakers pursuing an extreme and coercive political agenda. For four years the Trump Administration used its lawmaking powers to isolate and terrorize immigrant communities. Simply put, the Trump Administration used immigration law as a tool of terror.

The same administrative structures and legal provisions that were originally created in the aftermath of 9/11 to combat terrorism and protect human rights were weaponized and turned against refugees, migrants, and naturalized U.S. citizens. The Department of Homeland Security was transformed from an organization dedicated to combatting terrorism to an organization that instead inspired terror in immigrant communities, particularly among immigrants of color. Inflammatory rhetoric, denigrating specific groups of migrants on the basis of their race, religion, and/or national origin shaped anti-immigrant legal measures, with catastrophic results. At the border and in the interior of the United States, immigration laws were reinterpreted, regulations were amended, executive decrees were issued, and terrifying rumors about potential new initiatives were perpetuated on a daily basis. In the shadow of the COVID-19 pandemic and in the absence of stable and settled law, immigrant communities that were already living in extreme precarity experienced heightened and crushing uncertainty; in short, they were living in a state of constant terror.

 
Why do lefties side with these criminals?
Are they criminals?
article (my emphasis) said:
Cerna said the lack of information the government has on the deported Venezuelans “demonstrates that they are terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete file.” Neither Cerna nor the federal government has released any evidence publicly on the criminal and personal history of the deported Venezuelans.
If these people are dangerous, then they likely shouldn't receive asylum in the United States. But the Federal Government should be responsible for demonstrating their accusations against these people before being allowed to deport them... forget export them to a Super Max Prison.

Apparently, they are criminals (well related to a particular gang) because the Trump Admin says so, and when I say "says", as in just words and baseless accusations that have no legal backing with any factual information. The government is stating that their lack of evidence is evidence of their accusation. A terrorism in the gaps legal argument. You find this compelling?
 
If they were criminals, the gestapo would list their names, their crimes, what horrible country they came from etc, and shout it from the rooftops to gain support for protecting ‘Murkins from the criminal threat.

That they need to keep everything secret speaks to Trump’s lawlessness, not that of the deportees.
 
Why do lefties side with these criminals?
Are they criminals?
article (my emphasis) said:
Cerna said the lack of information the government has on the deported Venezuelans “demonstrates that they are terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete file.” Neither Cerna nor the federal government has released any evidence publicly on the criminal and personal history of the deported Venezuelans.
If these people are dangerous, then they likely shouldn't receive asylum in the United States. But the Federal Government should be responsible for demonstrating their accusations against these people before being allowed to deport them... forget export them to a Super Max Prison.

Apparently, they are criminals (well related to a particular gang) because the Trump Admin says so, and when I say "says", as in just words and baseless accusations that have no legal backing with any factual information. The government is stating that their lack of evidence is evidence of their accusation. A terrorism in the gaps legal argument. You find this compelling?
The government's position is literally, and I shit you not based on legal filings, that the fact we don't know what crimes they've committed makes them all the more dangerous.
 
the fact we don't know what crimes they've committed makes them all the more dangerous
Why is Swizzle still here? I think he should commit some crimes against DEI. Attack some black people or Latinos. That will get him an unlimited visa, and citizenship if he wants it. Maybe even a government post!
 
If they were criminals, the gestapo would list their names, their crimes, what horrible country they came from etc, and shout it from the rooftops to gain support for protecting ‘Murkins from the criminal threat.

That they need to keep everything secret speaks to Trump’s lawlessness, not that of the deportees.
Much of it isn't even secret. They have explicitly stated in court filings that many of them have no criminal records, and that makes them all the more dangerous because we don't know what crimes they have committed.

See my attachment from a DOJ legal filing below for words to that effect.
 

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If they were criminals, the gestapo would list their names, their crimes, what horrible country they came from etc, and shout it from the rooftops to gain support for protecting ‘Murkins from the criminal threat.

That they need to keep everything secret speaks to Trump’s lawlessness, not that of the deportees.
It isn't even secret. They have explicitly stated in court filings that many of them have no criminal records, and that makes them all the more dangerous because we don't know what crimes they have committed.
But we don’t even know who they are/were, how many there are/were, how many if any have been killed by ICE, or anything else about them.
 
If they were criminals, the gestapo would list their names, their crimes, what horrible country they came from etc, and shout it from the rooftops to gain support for protecting ‘Murkins from the criminal threat.

That they need to keep everything secret speaks to Trump’s lawlessness, not that of the deportees.
It isn't even secret. They have explicitly stated in court filings that many of them have no criminal records, and that makes them all the more dangerous because we don't know what crimes they have committed.
But we don’t even know who they are/were, how many there are/were, how many if any have been killed by ICE, or anything else about them.
True but investigative reporting is starting to bring some of this to light, and some of that is also beginning to appear in the DOJ legal filings.
 
Why do lefties side with these criminals?
Are they criminals?

Yes

Link said:
He indicated that ICE databases showed that “numerous” individuals had been arrested during federal gang operations or had criminal histories in the U.S. That includes allegations of murder for one individual as well as arrests and charges for aggravated assault with a weapon, drug possession, and sex crimes. He also said several of the individuals had been under investigation for kidnapping, drug trafficking, murder, and other serious crimes in Venezuela and elsewhere.

Why do you want to keep these criminals here?
 
TSwizzle typical brain dead MAGA:

"Why are you clutching pearls at sending violent illegal alien criminal gang members to El Salvador?"

Shown step by step that several were here legally seeking asylum, had comitted no crimes, and had no gang affiliation, and their 5th amendment right was violated.

"I don't care about any of that. Why do you support violent criminals?"

If things really go to shit, the MAGA types, after being shown the death camps at the end, will then claim "we didn't know."

If we ever get power back from this fascist dictatorship, I'm not sure these people should ever be allowed to vote again. Going to have to start fresh with a new constitution and try to fix what's broken. Maybe Europe will be have to liberate us from this hell hole.
 
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TSwizzle typical brain dead MAGA:

Me, MAGA? Nope.

"Why are you clutching pearls at sending violent illegal alien criminal gang members to El Salvador?"

Shown step by step that several were here legally seeking asylum, had comitted no crimes, and had no gang affiliation, and their 5th amendment right was violated.

And I have shown that many violent criminals have been booted out. Why do you want to keep them here?

"I don't care about any of that. Why do you support violent criminals?"

I never said you supported violent criminals. I keep asking you, why do you want to keep violent criminals here? Why do you object to violent criminals getting booted out of the USA?

If we ever get power back from this fascist dictatorship, I'm not sure these people should ever be allowed to vote again.

And I'm the fascist?!! LOL.

Going to have to start fresh with a new constitution and try to fix what's broken. Maybe Europe will be have to liberate us from this hell hole.

Europe can't look after itself.
 
TSwizzle typical brain dead MAGA:

Me, MAGA? Nope.

"Why are you clutching pearls at sending violent illegal alien criminal gang members to El Salvador?"

Shown step by step that several were here legally seeking asylum, had comitted no crimes, and had no gang affiliation, and their 5th amendment right was violated.

And I have shown that many violent criminals have been booted out. Why do you want to keep them here?

"I don't care about any of that. Why do you support violent criminals?"

I never said you supported violent criminals. I keep asking you, why do you want to keep violent criminals here? Why do you object to violent criminals getting booted out of the USA?

If we ever get power back from this fascist dictatorship, I'm not sure these people should ever be allowed to vote again.

And I'm the fascist?!! LOL.

Going to have to start fresh with a new constitution and try to fix what's broken. Maybe Europe will be have to liberate us from this hell hole.

Europe can't look after itself.
I don't. I have clearly stated if you had bothered to read I have no problem booting violent criminals after they've been given due process. Due process is how we determine whether they are violent criminals or not. But then you already knew that. So why the fuck did you ask?
 
Reading comprehension FAIL.
“numerous” individuals had been arrested during federal gang operations OR had criminal histories…”
So the main crime listed is “having been arrested” during an ICE sweep. No doubt they’re all now guilty of that manufactured offense. Very reminiscent of Casablanca’s “usual suspects”.

At least one among their (UNDISCLOSED) number had a “criminal history” if there is even a shred of truth in that statement.
Y’ know who else has a “criminal history” X34 ? Yup. The apricot of whom you are so fond.

Let’s chain him up and deport the mutherfucker. Maybe he can accidentally fall overboard while wearing the Hannibal Lechter getup.
 
I don't. I have clearly stated if you had bothered to read I have no problem booting violent criminals after they've been given due process. Due process is how we determine whether they are violent criminals or not. But then you already knew that. So why the fuck did you ask?

Due process? LOL. They entered the USA illegally (or under Brandon's bogus asylum app) and have been found out and booted out.
 
I don't. I have clearly stated if you had bothered to read I have no problem booting violent criminals after they've been given due process. Due process is how we determine whether they are violent criminals or not. But then you already knew that. So why the fuck did you ask?

Due process? LOL. They entered the USA illegally (or under Brandon's bogus asylum app) and have been found out and booted out.
You: They entered illegally and were booted out

Me:

Shown step by step that several were here legally seeking asylum (one was escaping Maduro's prison torture, for example), had comitted no crimes, and had no gang affiliation, and their 5th amendment right was violated.

You:

"I don't care about any of that. Why do you support violent criminals?"

You are way too predictable. This is just another variation of that. Try something new.
 
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