Bitch about Biden thread

[Loren Pechtel]

So, if its that bad an environment why did they choose to live there? Indeed, why did they establish Israel there instead of a more hospitable place such as in the USA?

They would trust the USA? The very USA that had blocked Jews that were trying to get away from Hitler? (Admittedly, before the Holocaust was known about.)

 

[Derec]

Sure looks like Biden was worried that The Felon was going to do something bad. Same as his commuting some death sentences to life without to keep The Felon from executing them before everything was resolved.

I do not think so. That is certainly the case with death row inmates - Trump is definitely going to resume federal executions.
But he really could not have done anything to make Peltier's sentence worse. Zipr's claim that he was to be released soon anyway stems from an misinterpretation on his part - he mistook the new release date for an old, pre-commutation, one. In reality he had no release date until Biden's clemency.

Note also that Peltier was on the wish list of the Left for a long time. It is just that Biden is more susceptible to being pulled by the LWNJs than the likes of Clinton and Obama, both of whom refused to issue clemency.

 

[Derec]

Says the guy who never misses an opportunity to call every BLM protest a riot.

Show me the case where I called a peaceful BLM or Antifa protest a riot.
In reality, many such protests degenerate into riots and they should be called out as such.

But please, show us that CNN meme one more time.

But please, explain to us again how J6 is the only riot that matters.

 

[Patooka]

Show me the case where I called a peaceful BLM or Antifa protest a riot.

You never not once have done that. That's the point.

But please, explain to us again how J6 is the only riot that matters.

Never a riot. A violent coup that actually encourages more domestic terrorism that did more damage than what the Confederates fantasise about.

You are the only one having difficulty understanding this - but I'm sure you can provide an event of some black guy in the 60s and mental gymnastics into another whataboutism.

Despite the fact that I am an atheist, I have faith in you accomplishing that task.

 

[Derec]

Show me the case where I called a peaceful BLM or Antifa protest a riot.

You never not once have done that. That's the point.

Show me one example. Oh, I forget. You believe all #BLM riots, no matter how violent, were really peaceful, so you think all of them are examples.

Never a riot. A violent coup that actually encourages more domestic terrorism that did more damage than what the Confederates fantasise about.

What Confederates?

You are the only one having difficulty understanding this - but I'm sure you can provide an event of some black guy in the 60s and mental gymnastics into another whataboutism.

You mean actual insurrectionist groups who actually advocated overturning the US government and committed bombings, robberies and murders in order to advance their goals?

 

[Patooka]

Thank you for fulfilling my faith, derec.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Says the guy who never misses an opportunity to call every BLM protest a riot.

Show me the case where I called a peaceful BLM or Antifa protest a riot.

The word that comes to mind is "broad brush".

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Says the guy who never misses an opportunity to call every BLM protest a riot.

Show me the case where I called a peaceful BLM or Antifa protest a riot.

The word that comes to mind is "broad brush".

That's two words. Checkmate, atheists.

 

[Emily Lake]

,Real Median Household Income decreased 1% from 2019 ($81,210) to 2023 ($80,610). It's increased since 2020, sure... but there was a pretty steep drop that it's only now recovering from.

I'm having a surprisingly hard time finding Mean Household Income. Median can be a misleading measure, since it's the mid-point. The bottom of the distribution is essentially fixed at $0, but the top end is hypothetically unlimited. Basically, if 90% of US household income stays flat, but the billionaires get far more billionairy, the median will increase. That doesn't mean that actual average people have seen their incomes keep pace with the cost of utilities or goods.

The reddened sentence seems wrong to me. Are you sure you're not interchanging the meanings of Mean and Median?

Yes I'm sure.
Median is literally the midpoint. If you're talking about a distribution that's essentially a skewed normal, median will often give you a more meaningful measure. In this case, however, we're talking about a truncated distribution that's extremely highly skewed. One side can basically go to infinity (hypothetically anyway), but the other side has a hard stop at zero.

If you've got 9,999 people with an income of 0 and 1 person with an income of 10,000, the mean is 1 but the median is 5,000.
If that 1 person's income increases the following year to 100,000, the mean will change to 10, but the median changes to 50,000.

I've linked to a FRED graph showing three REAL income measures AND "Personal income per capita", which I assume is the same as "Mean Personal Income", though neither "Household" nor "Real" (inflation adjusted. You can adjust that final series using CPI and household size. Two of the REAL series in that graph are 2023 dollars; the third is 2017 ("chained") dollars.

But at lest FRED tells us whether its dollars are "Real" (inflation-adjusted) or not. Some webpages ignore such details!

It's not mean, it's median real income.

But I am NOT sure you want Mean Household Income. It will be even more misleading than the Median: Billionaires' income affects the Mean but not the Median.

Mean can certainly be misleading. But in this case, Median could be more misleading. I want to see BOTH mean and median, but I can only find median.

And billionaires incomes absolutely do affect the median. They affect both, but when the distribution is highly skewed or truncated, median can be even more misleading than mean.

 

[Emily Lake]

Except that's not what happened. Wages went up 5% more than costs. Not merely 5%.

From when to when?

Since the pandemic. It was a major cause of the broad inflation! Where I work, we got two raises in one year. The Fed kept rates up a bit to get unemployment to go up a bit because it was too low and giving workers too much leverage, which was driving wages higher causing inflation to hang around.

It fell off a cliff at the start of the pandemic! It's gone up since then, but from 2019 (pre-pandemic) to 2020 (start of pandemic) it dropped drastically. If you're measuring from 2020 on, it will look like it's increased more - but only because you're ignoring the extremely steep drop from 2019 to 2020.

Which I said in my post, and which you seem to have chosen to ignore.

 

[Emily Lake]

Beware of how deceptive that graph is, note the different scales.

I loathe scale manipulation in visual displays. I consider it outright lying.

 

[Emily Lake]

It's not fake news. What Faux and friends are feeding you is fake news.

They're both fake news, let's be honest.

 

[Emily Lake]

A been good bit more to the Peltier story since 2004.

 Leonard Peltier
The section following what I quoted details the discrepancies of material evidence.

And finally Peltier was to be released from prison in less than four weeks anyway.

Sure looks like Biden was worried that The Felon was going to do something bad. Same as his commuting some death sentences to life without to keep The Felon from executing them before everything was resolved.

Okay, maybe I missed something here... but presidents can't pass sentences. Trump can't execute criminals. Presidents can pardon people, for some insane reason I've never really understood... but they can't impose sentences.

 

[Emily Lake]

Why does mom have two kids before she was able to take care of herself reasonably?

Oh ffs, can you shove your woman-blaming for a while?

Mom used to be a stay at home parent while dad worked, then dad died. Sheesh, that was pretty fucking obvious from the post, but nope, you jumped straight to some veiled "silly whore should have kept her legs shut" jibe.

 

[Emily Lake]

Were you there? How do you define "well accepted"? My grandfather felt compelled to change his last name from an obviously Jewish one to a more neutral one because of how well accepted he was in the 1930s USA. Maybe in the "late 1940s" it was substantially better, but I doubt it.

It really heavily depends on WHERE in the US your grandfather lived. Kind of like it might depend on where in EUROPE someone lived as to how well accepted they were. Sometimes size really does matter.

 

[Shadowy Man]

A been good bit more to the Peltier story since 2004.

 Leonard Peltier
The section following what I quoted details the discrepancies of material evidence.

And finally Peltier was to be released from prison in less than four weeks anyway.

Sure looks like Biden was worried that The Felon was going to do something bad. Same as his commuting some death sentences to life without to keep The Felon from executing them before everything was resolved.

Okay, maybe I missed something here... but presidents can't pass sentences. Trump can't execute criminals. Presidents can pardon people, for some insane reason I've never really understood... but they can't impose sentences.

But can't the Justice Department do that? And if the head of that department is a lackey of the President, then what?

 

[Swammerdami]

If you've got 9,999 people with an income of 0 and 1 person with an income of 10,000, the mean is 1 but the median is 5,000.
If that 1 person's income increases the following year to 100,000, the mean will change to 10, but the median changes to 50,000.

In your examples, you calculate the MEAN correctly, but you are way off on the MEDIAN. In both examples, the median (also known as 50th percentile) would be Zero.

Median: a value in an ordered set of values below and above which there is an equal number of values ...

the median is a statistical value that represents the middle of a set of data. It is a robust location estimator, meaning it is not sensitive to outliers.

If you sort the 10,000 numbers by income the #5000 slot will be taken by a zero-income person. Obviously: -- they're almost all zero-income.

The mean is STRONGLY affected by the outlier, changing from 1 to 10 even though 9,999 incomes remain the same. The MEDIAN remains zero, UNAFFECTED by the outlier.

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The question now is Do you believe me? I will optimistically consider that a 50-50 chance.

I did type " what is median of {0,0,0,0,10} ? " into the Google Search bar and, after showing its work the bot concluded

...

Solution

The median of the dataset is 0.

Generative AI is experimental. Answers might be inaccurate or misleading. Double-check for accuracy.

Still skeptical? Should I ask Google what it thinks about the Life Begins at Erection Bill?

 

[bilby]

I did type " what is median of {0,0,0,0,10} ? " into the Google Search bar

Did you also consider consulting a psychic medium?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

,Real Median Household Income decreased 1% from 2019 ($81,210) to 2023 ($80,610). It's increased since 2020, sure... but there was a pretty steep drop that it's only now recovering from.

I'm having a surprisingly hard time finding Mean Household Income. Median can be a misleading measure, since it's the mid-point. The bottom of the distribution is essentially fixed at $0, but the top end is hypothetically unlimited. Basically, if 90% of US household income stays flat, but the billionaires get far more billionairy, the median will increase. That doesn't mean that actual average people have seen their incomes keep pace with the cost of utilities or goods.

The reddened sentence seems wrong to me. Are you sure you're not interchanging the meanings of Mean and Median?

Yes I'm sure.
Median is literally the midpoint. If you're talking about a distribution that's essentially a skewed normal, median will often give you a more meaningful measure. In this case, however, we're talking about a truncated distribution that's extremely highly skewed. One side can basically go to infinity (hypothetically anyway), but the other side has a hard stop at zero.

If you've got 9,999 people with an income of 0 and 1 person with an income of 10,000, the mean is 1 but the median is 5,000.
If that 1 person's income increases the following year to 100,000, the mean will change to 10, but the median changes to 50,000.

Math check! In both examples the median is zero.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why does mom have two kids before she was able to take care of herself reasonably?

Oh ffs, can you shove your woman-blaming for a while?

Mom used to be a stay at home parent while dad worked, then dad died. Sheesh, that was pretty fucking obvious from the post, but nope, you jumped straight to some veiled "silly whore should have kept her legs shut" jibe.

Had kids without having life insurance.