'Calexit' organizers can now start collecting signatures to get California secession on the ballot

[bilby]

Realistically, California will not leave. I'm considering the hypothetical scenario.
As for Russia, there is no way they would be able to invade California, since:

1. It would probably be a NATO member.
2. In any event, the US would not let that happen (Trump is not the only person calling the shots).
3. Russia's capability to invade by sea is very limited. California could buy some pretty silent subs (e.g., Gotland class), and that could sink pretty much any Russian surface ship, at a reasonably low cost.
4. Russia has no excuse to invade. Those are needed for their domestic audiences.
5. Mexico is not much farther way, and they won't invade, either.
6. At any rate, Canada is closer, and is not at risk of being invaded, even though their military budget is 1% of their GDP (vs. 3.3% in the case of the US). Even if it spent as much as 1%, that would be considerably less than America's expenditure, in proportion to their GDP.

Canada only risks invasion by the US, who has so much stronger a military that Canada doesn't bother. Seriously, who else would invade Canada? Nobody. It has no enemies.

The Danes, the British and the French all did in the past, and none of them were enemies of Canada at the time - they just wanted her resources and had the strength to go and take them. Enmity isn't needed.

The fucker who stole my VCR in 1989 wasn't my enemy - he didn't even know who I was - but he wanted my stuff, and had the power to take it, so he did.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, if you're going to invade Canada, don't do it before 2023, because our Giant Death Robots won't be ready until then.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Why not? What's the reason that they should fund the rest of you morons and put up with all your bullshit?

This was decided 150 years ago. The rest of the morons have a giant military and the means to prevent any such attempt at secession. Especially by a bunch of very liberal people.

Wars only really decide who has the military advantage, and don't actually decide who is right.

 

[LordKiran]

This was decided 150 years ago. The rest of the morons have a giant military and the means to prevent any such attempt at secession. Especially by a bunch of very liberal people.

Wars only really decide who has the military advantage, and don't actually decide who is right.

Debatable. History is written by the victors.

 

[LordKiran]

Durp. Delete.

 

[BH]

I don't want Texas to leave the US. Texas is spread out with very little natural barriers for any invading army. It only beat Santa Anna because Sam Houston attacked the camp with the woman and kids and not the soldiers directly. They panicked when their wives and kids were getting shot at.

 

[Tigers!]

Well, if you're going to invade Canada, don't do it before 2023, because our Giant Death Robots won't be ready until then.

Wouldn't the Esso Cup teams act as an effective enough deterrent?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, if you're going to invade Canada, don't do it before 2023, because our Giant Death Robots won't be ready until then.

Wouldn't the Esso Cup teams act as an effective enough deterrent?

Ya, but there's really nothing like watching Giant Death Robots crush your enemies like bugs. Be a pal and hold back until we can set those on you.

 

[Tigers!]

Wouldn't the Esso Cup teams act as an effective enough deterrent?

Ya, but there's really nothing like watching Giant Death Robots crush your enemies like bugs. Be a pal and hold back until we can set those on you.

Very well. I will ask the Australian army to invade on 2/1/2023. Watch very careful in the Vancouver area then. Be suss of all those Australian tourists.

We don't do this for just anyone but you asked so very politely.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

See, you can always count on the Aussies. Please know that as we're crushing you under our giant metal feet and vapourizung you with our plasma beams that we hold you in the highest respect.

 

[ZiprHead]

You Canadians are so polite.

 

[dismal]

That aside, California could probably do pretty well on its own. In fact, it could save a lot of money in military stuff (wars, a very large military, etc.), since they're not at risk of being invaded, bombed, etc. They wouldn't need to invest much to prevent a Mexican attack - and Mexico wouldn't attack, anyway -, and we're assuming the US wouldn't attack, since this would be a divorce by mutual agreement.

Yeah, I remember back when people here were very positive about Texas doing well on its own too.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Only one way to find out.

 

[Angra Mainyu]

That aside, California could probably do pretty well on its own. In fact, it could save a lot of money in military stuff (wars, a very large military, etc.), since they're not at risk of being invaded, bombed, etc. They wouldn't need to invest much to prevent a Mexican attack - and Mexico wouldn't attack, anyway -, and we're assuming the US wouldn't attack, since this would be a divorce by mutual agreement.

Yeah, I remember back when people here were very positive about Texas doing well on its own too.

I'm not sure what your point is, but I think Texas probably could also do well on its own. But I was talking about your Calexit speculation.

 

[laughing dog]

That aside, California could probably do pretty well on its own. In fact, it could save a lot of money in military stuff (wars, a very large military, etc.), since they're not at risk of being invaded, bombed, etc. They wouldn't need to invest much to prevent a Mexican attack - and Mexico wouldn't attack, anyway -, and we're assuming the US wouldn't attack, since this would be a divorce by mutual agreement.

Yeah, I remember back when people here were very positive about Texas doing well on its own too.

You misremember - people here were very positive about the USA doing well with Texas on its own..

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yeah, I remember back when people here were very positive about Texas doing well on its own too.

You misremember - people here were very positive about the USA doing well with Texas on its own..

I think they'd both be fine.