California Doing California Things

[laughing dog]

Gave him sass, didn't you?

No, I just meekly took my real punishment -- the twenty-five minute waste of my time for trying to save a minute, most of which was the obligatory lecture about how dangerous jaywalking is and the personal recollection of pedestrian injuries he'd seen -- with good grace. Cops aren't famous for their sense of humor. I didn't even notice he'd jotted down the speed limit in the wrong box until I got home.

Are you famous for your sense of humor, by any chance?

I don’t know about famous, but anyone who quotes from The Wrath of Becky has a keen sense of humor in my view.

 

[TSwizzle]

No surprise really

Los Angeles hosts the nation’s largest unsheltered homeless population. In recent years, despite billions in city and county spending, L.A.’s once-pristine streets have become littered with tents, drugs, and feces. City leaders have made elaborate promises about managing the homeless problem, but few seem to have asked a simple question: Where, exactly, are these people coming from? There is a reason for that. In 2020, the city-county Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority (LAHSA) found that one-third of “unsheltered Angelenos” became homeless outside of Los Angeles County. In 2024, the nonprofit RAND Corporation reported that 41 percent of the street homeless surveyed across three Los Angeles neighborhoods—Hollywood, Venice, and Skid Row—were “last housed” somewhere other than L.A. County. The results were astounding: 64 percent of the L.A. street homeless said they were from outside the City of Los Angeles, and 53 percent said they were from outside Los Angeles County—a significant increase compared with the LAHSA and RAND studies. Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024. Six percent told us that they were from other countries, including Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea. Several of these non-L.A. residents were candid, describing their migration to the city for its fair weather or generous services. The homeless respond to incentives. They flock to places where it is easy to camp, do drugs, and commit crimes, and where the government provides housing, benefits, and drug paraphernalia. That’s exactly what Los Angeles has done. As a result, there is a “magnet effect” that continuously attracts the homeless from around the world.

News

 

[bilby]

No surprise really

Los Angeles hosts the nation’s largest unsheltered homeless population.

...

Several of these non-L.A. residents were candid, describing their migration to the city for its fair weather ...

Well that explains your championing of climate change.

 

[Politesse]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

 

[TSwizzle]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

*sigh* quote me. where I said such things.

 

[Tigers!]

Neighborhoods with higher crime rates get policed more heavily in general.

As a result, more crimes are detected in those neighbourhoods.

Would you rather neighbourhoods with higher crimes crime rates not be policed? Presumably that would decrease the crime rate. Officially at least it would, but unoffically the neighbourhood is not better off.

This increases the crime rate. Thereby justifying increased policing.

If it makes the neighbourhood safer then that seems to be preferable.

It's neatly circular, and only needs a pinch of racism to prime the pump, after which the system carries on producing racist outcomes without racists having to act on their racism at all, other than to occasionally defend the system as being non-racist because it is based only on "crime rates", which clearly have no racial component whatsoever and just happen to expose the fundamental fact that niggers are a bunch of criminals some neighbourhoods are more prone to crime than others.

So how would you police neighbourhoods to reduce crime?

 

[Politesse]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

*sigh* quote me. where I said such things.

I am literally discussimg your quote. Clarify your point like an adult, if you think I'm "interpreting" you the wrong way.

 

[TSwizzle]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

*sigh* quote me. where I said such things.

I am literally discussimg your quote. Clarify your point like an adult, if you think I'm "interpreting" you the wrong way.

Sure, Jan.

 

[Politesse]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

*sigh* quote me. where I said such things.

I am literally discussimg your quote. Clarify your point like an adult, if you think I'm "interpreting" you the wrong way.

Sure, Jan.

What are your feelings on Republican states foisting their homelessness problems on California to deal with, then excoriating us for having a large homeless population? 4 in 10 of which came here from their shithole states?

 

[thebeave]

"Nearly 40 percent told us they were from other states, mostly from states that voted for President Trump in 2024."

I'm surprised you would want to admit this? Why is it a good thing to you that trashy Republican states are exporting their problems to your state? Why would you be happy about that at all? And why do you want our state to emulate these places with Republican governments that neglect their citizens, wreck their economies, and then expect us to clean up their shit? Why do you want to take one of the most beautiful states in the Union and turn it into a dystopian nightmare?

I would assume that the people coming to live on the streets of LA from the Trump states are not actually Trump voters themselves. In fact, I'd bet my left nut that most did not vote at all. Assuming the stereotypes are true, the red states' local gov'ts are more law and order oriented and probably don't take kindly to open air drug markets, pitching tents and pooping on sidewalks and general chaos. When you live on the streets of LA they won't hassle you (much) about those things, and will even give you cash and other freebies. Not that sure what LA offers exactly, but in San Francisco, you used to be able to get free booze delivered to you at taxpayer's expense if you were an alcoholic. That is until new mayor Daniel Lurie came along and dropped a turd in the spiked punch bowl, so to speak.

 

[Politesse]

I would assume that the people coming to live on the streets of LA from the Trump states are not actually Trump voters themselves.

What does that have to do with it? I'm not accusing the homeless of voting like idiots, I'm accusing California voters of voting like idiots.

Assuming the stereotypes are true, the red states' local gov'ts are more law and order oriented and probably don't take kindly to open air drug markets, pitching tents and pooping on sidewalks and general chaos.

Which did not solve their problem, it just exported it. To here. Why would any Californian be okay with that? We're dealimg with a major crisis that they created, and they're tryimg to pretend that's evidence of our mismanagement. Why should California have to spend billions to clean up other states' diapers? As usual?

Without us and New York respectively, the US' welfare system would be dead, its economy kaput, its military faltering, its international reputation nonexistent, and all Republicans can say is "Why don't you run your state incompetently, like us? If you neglect the governance your state for long enough, someone else will come along and take care of it!" They are so used to us solving all their problems, they think its some sort of natural law.

Secession can't come quickly enough.