Cancer hitting younger people

[Loren Pechtel]

I strongly suspect that obesity and inactivity is the issue.

Yes, there are carcinogens in food, but they are typically way below natural hazard levels and things the consumer does. BBQ over charcoal for example. Smoke is bad for you. Even if it's eaten rather than inhaled.

The other thing that comes to mind is HPV--I do not think it's causing the cancer spike, but it was basically a chance discovery that hasn't been possible for all that long. Rather, we know of one virus whose only symptom is cancer--and cancer in basically anything it gets into. Unique things aren't common, if there's one there's probably more.

 

[steve_bank]

There are a number of variables.

A good diet with a sedentary lifestyle leads to cardiovascular problems.

A weight lifter who smokes with a fast food diet leads to vascular problems and risk of cancers.

It is hard to separate the variables.

It is not just cancer, cardiovascular diseases onceonsder an older age prelim has pushed down as far as teens.

We have become sedentary. Nothing new there.

The term today is Holistic, looking at the entire lifestyle.

One of my favorite old movies is a 1950s British film Witness For The Prosecution. The man character is an obese smoking, drinking, and overeating lawyer. He needs a memorized chiar to get up and down stairs.

He has nurse who tries to keep him from drinking and smoking and makes sure he takes his meds.

Likls between lifestyle and health have been known for a long time.

 

[TSwizzle]

What about cultures that have lower incidence of cancers, heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetes, etc....until they adopt a western developed nation lifestyle and diet, at which point their general health becomes just like ours, or worse.

Fair points all but the concern is that while US cancer rates are for the most part falling, there has been a noticeable uptick in cases in younger people, even people that are reasonably fit or would be considered low risk.

 

[Tigers!]

Some people can smoke 3 packs of cigs a day and live into their 90s, while others get lung cancer in their 40s.

Churchill smoked like a chimney (admittedly cigars), drank like a fish, was obese and made it to 95.

And some people, like my husband's late grandmother can be very obese their entire lives yet live to be 94, then die peacefully, while in the very early stages of dementia. It's complicated.

No one cause but all the variables and factors accumulate.

 

[Elixir]

I have noticed something that just MIGHT have something to do with increased youth cancer rates.
I go to swim laps, and the adjacent kiddie pool is full of babies, toddlers and pre-teens. And they are FAT. Not just overweight - about 40% of them are fucking obese.
I don’t think it matters what they’re eating; if they eat that much of it, they’re going to suffer.

I've noticed most children at my daughters school are of average weight to skinny. However, anecdotes aren't very meaningful. Especially in this case when we are talking about young adults, not infants.

To avoid these, a rule of thumb is to stick to products with fewer than five ingredients and avoid items with ingredients that are hard to pronounce.

I get Cleveland Clinic Wellness Letters and some time back they said this very thing. This is something I've been doing for the past twenty years.
The medical community is loath to make any official public statements linking UPFs to cancer without strong evidence lest they get sued by the food industry. Well, I'll not be that evidence and I'm trying to convince my daughter not to either.

Yep. In particular, one chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide (its only 1 molecule different than Carbon Monoxide!) kills many thousands every year and yet it continues to be ignored by Big Food.

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

 

[thebeave]

I have noticed something that just MIGHT have something to do with increased youth cancer rates.
I go to swim laps, and the adjacent kiddie pool is full of babies, toddlers and pre-teens. And they are FAT. Not just overweight - about 40% of them are fucking obese.
I don’t think it matters what they’re eating; if they eat that much of it, they’re going to suffer.

I've noticed most children at my daughters school are of average weight to skinny. However, anecdotes aren't very meaningful. Especially in this case when we are talking about young adults, not infants.

To avoid these, a rule of thumb is to stick to products with fewer than five ingredients and avoid items with ingredients that are hard to pronounce.

I get Cleveland Clinic Wellness Letters and some time back they said this very thing. This is something I've been doing for the past twenty years.
The medical community is loath to make any official public statements linking UPFs to cancer without strong evidence lest they get sued by the food industry. Well, I'll not be that evidence and I'm trying to convince my daughter not to either.

Yep. In particular, one chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide (its only 1 molecule different than Carbon Monoxide!) kills many thousands every year and yet it continues to be ignored by Big Food.

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

 

[DBT]

Politicians do have a lot to answer for.

 

[Politesse]

I have noticed something that just MIGHT have something to do with increased youth cancer rates.
I go to swim laps, and the adjacent kiddie pool is full of babies, toddlers and pre-teens. And they are FAT. Not just overweight - about 40% of them are fucking obese.
I don’t think it matters what they’re eating; if they eat that much of it, they’re going to suffer.

I've noticed most children at my daughters school are of average weight to skinny. However, anecdotes aren't very meaningful. Especially in this case when we are talking about young adults, not infants.

To avoid these, a rule of thumb is to stick to products with fewer than five ingredients and avoid items with ingredients that are hard to pronounce.

I get Cleveland Clinic Wellness Letters and some time back they said this very thing. This is something I've been doing for the past twenty years.
The medical community is loath to make any official public statements linking UPFs to cancer without strong evidence lest they get sued by the food industry. Well, I'll not be that evidence and I'm trying to convince my daughter not to either.

Yep. In particular, one chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide (its only 1 molecule different than Carbon Monoxide!) kills many thousands every year and yet it continues to be ignored by Big Food.

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

Well, they should stop doing shit.

 

[thebeave]

I have noticed something that just MIGHT have something to do with increased youth cancer rates.
I go to swim laps, and the adjacent kiddie pool is full of babies, toddlers and pre-teens. And they are FAT. Not just overweight - about 40% of them are fucking obese.
I don’t think it matters what they’re eating; if they eat that much of it, they’re going to suffer.

I've noticed most children at my daughters school are of average weight to skinny. However, anecdotes aren't very meaningful. Especially in this case when we are talking about young adults, not infants.

To avoid these, a rule of thumb is to stick to products with fewer than five ingredients and avoid items with ingredients that are hard to pronounce.

I get Cleveland Clinic Wellness Letters and some time back they said this very thing. This is something I've been doing for the past twenty years.
The medical community is loath to make any official public statements linking UPFs to cancer without strong evidence lest they get sued by the food industry. Well, I'll not be that evidence and I'm trying to convince my daughter not to either.

Yep. In particular, one chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide (its only 1 molecule different than Carbon Monoxide!) kills many thousands every year and yet it continues to be ignored by Big Food.

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

Well, they should stop doing shit.

OK, but like in this case, it (DHMO scare) is made up...imaginary. Yet, somehow it still ended up being about wrongdoing by Republicans.

I should do some test threads, talking about random, obscure things and see how many posts it takes before it becomes about Trump or Republicans. Let's see....maybe I'll start with <looks around room>...a pencil sharpener!

 

[Politesse]

I have noticed something that just MIGHT have something to do with increased youth cancer rates.
I go to swim laps, and the adjacent kiddie pool is full of babies, toddlers and pre-teens. And they are FAT. Not just overweight - about 40% of them are fucking obese.
I don’t think it matters what they’re eating; if they eat that much of it, they’re going to suffer.

I've noticed most children at my daughters school are of average weight to skinny. However, anecdotes aren't very meaningful. Especially in this case when we are talking about young adults, not infants.

To avoid these, a rule of thumb is to stick to products with fewer than five ingredients and avoid items with ingredients that are hard to pronounce.

I get Cleveland Clinic Wellness Letters and some time back they said this very thing. This is something I've been doing for the past twenty years.
The medical community is loath to make any official public statements linking UPFs to cancer without strong evidence lest they get sued by the food industry. Well, I'll not be that evidence and I'm trying to convince my daughter not to either.

Yep. In particular, one chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide (its only 1 molecule different than Carbon Monoxide!) kills many thousands every year and yet it continues to be ignored by Big Food.

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

Well, they should stop doing shit.

OK, but like in this case, it (DHMO scare) is made up...imaginary. Yet, somehow it still ended up being about wrongdoing by Republicans.

I should do some test threads, talking about random, obscure things and see how many posts it takes before it becomes about Trump or Republicans. Let's see....maybe I'll start with <looks around room>...a pencil sharpener!

Do Republicans not, in fact, spin wild conspiracy theories about water and water rights all the time? It is a bipartisan game I think.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

Well, they should stop doing shit.

OK, but like in this case, it (DHMO scare) is made up...imaginary. Yet, somehow it still ended up being about wrongdoing by Republicans.

And you can't imagine why? CRT, Covid-19, horse dewormer....

 

[Elixir]

OK, but like in this case, it (DHMO scare) is made up...imaginary.

That make it a carbon copy of 90% of the objects of Republican fearmongering.

 

[steve_bank]

The thread has descended into politics. Conspiracy theories and name calling.

National politics is like a cancer spreading everywhere....

 

[Elixir]

Probably 50-60% of the cannabis consumers I know don’t smoke pot any longer. I do, but I’m at an age where I don’t worry about long term effects. It is unlikely that it will be my demise. But it’s probably good that many are gravitating toward edibles.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

In the news yesterday a growing correlation between pot smokinglu8ng cancer, and throat cancer. That is on top of the psychological portable reported, like psychosis among teen smokers.

https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/marijuana-and-lung-cancer-risk

People may wonder if smoking marijuana is less harmful than smoking cigarettes because cigarettes have more obvious cancer-causing substances. It's important to understand that marijuana isn't chemical-free. It contains a mixture of compounds and chemicals including tar, ammonia, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, cyanide, benzene and many others.

Smoking marijuana is undoubtedly safer than smoking cigarettes. That isn't a relevant metric, however. Also, the link isn't actually making a claim. It is saying we don't know, it is hard to actually draw the line between harm from marijuana smoking if smokers also used cigarettes.

The tobacco industry has been trying to indicate marijuana is dangerous for decades. We still lack any evidence to suggest that is true. Smoking anything likely has to have some negative effect on the lungs. We know that cigarettes trash the lungs.

Vaping kind of blew up out of no where and needs to be assessed. Luckily in America markets don't have to show their products don't kill their users. If that happens, a class action suit will solve the problem after the fact.

The thread has descended into politics. Conspiracy theories and name calling.

National politics is like a cancer spreeing everywhere....

Health has become a partisan issue

 

[thebeave]

The physical health effects of marijuana are secondary to the negative effects to your mental self. Like spending your afternoon smoking pot, propped up on your elbows marveling at an ant hill, when you should be at a JOB or mowing the lawn, or teaching yourself atomic physics.

 

[thebeave]

Get Sean Hannity to blather about it and it'll be the number one problem in America in 3 weeks. TSwizzle will post UK Daily Mail articles about it.

Damn. If they had longer to work on it they would find alway to blame it on Harris, and failing that, on Obama.

Is it just my imagination, or do 9 about out of 10 random threads on this forum ultimately lead to blaming of Trump or Republicans?

Well, they should stop doing shit.

OK, but like in this case, it (DHMO scare) is made up...imaginary. Yet, somehow it still ended up being about wrongdoing by Republicans.

And you can't imagine why? CRT, Covid-19, horse dewormer....

I think you are kind of proving my point.

BTW, you forgot about Jewish Space Lasers...

 

[Elixir]

The physical health effects of marijuana are secondary to the negative effects to your mental self. Like spending your afternoon smoking pot, propped up on your elbows marveling at an ant hill, when you should be at a JOB or mowing the lawn, or teaching yourself atomic physics.

I smoke grass before mowing the grass/weeds. It’s a damn good thing I’m fairly wrecked by the time it comes to nuclear physics, or who knows what might happen.

 

[thebeave]

The physical health effects of marijuana are secondary to the negative effects to your mental self. Like spending your afternoon smoking pot, propped up on your elbows marveling at an ant hill, when you should be at a JOB or mowing the lawn, or teaching yourself atomic physics.

I smoke grass before mowing the grass/weeds. It’s a damn good thing I’m fairly wrecked by the time it comes to nuclear physics, or who knows what might happen.

Agreed. Given your smoking habit, its best you not tinker with your ill gotten stash of plutonium.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The rise of 'super healthy' young women with colon cancer

Oncologists across the world are alarmed by an obvious, and thus far unexplainable, spike in colon cancer rates among under-50s and Britian and the US are no exception.

www.dailymail.co.uk