Charlie Kirk shot at (shot?) in Utah

[steve_bank]

I listened to a democrat form Oregon say how she was glad he was dead. Said with vitriol.

The left is showing itself to be as crazy and extreme as any of the MAGA.

 

[robnisch]

 

[Bomb#20]

if you were logical you wouldn't be leftists in the first place

Sorry, but a lack of logic is if anything more prevalent on the right than the left.

Let's apply some logic to your reply. You say "Sorry, but" as though you think your claim contradicts mine. What makes you think so? The "if anything" is a hedge. If you'd written *"a lack of logic is more prevalent on the right than the left", that would have conflicted with my assertion; but that isn't what you said. Is it what you meant?

If you did mean "a lack of logic is more prevalent on the right than the left", that's a claim that there are more logical leftists than logical rightists per capita; the claim necessarily implies that there exist logical leftists. Which leftist IIDB poster you think is logical? Can you exhibit any logical leftist at all, even outside IIDB?

If your "if anything" hedge was necessary and you're only claiming logic is no more prevalent on the right than the left, what's your point? You aren't contradicting me -- I don't recall saying if those guys were logical they'd be rightists. Looks to me like the most logical people here are neither leftists nor rightists -- they're independents, moderates, centrists, liberals, libertarians, apolitical, sects of one, what have you.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Trump is a disappointment to me, but then all presidents have been. His crime is rising to the top outside of the standard pathways. A person is supposed to start in lower offices, work their way up, and then jump from either governor or senator to president. Eisenhower was the allowable exception because he rose through the military, but he did rise through the system.

By the time anyone else is in a position to run there is so much dirt on them and dirt on their hands that they go along and get along. Doesn't matter which party, there isn't as much difference as people pretend.

Trumps position on the border is the same as that of Clinton. He failed to get rid of support for Ukraine. He's a 1990's New York City Democrat through and through. He's particularly scary because he now has in his tool kit the weapons prepared by the Democrats to bring him down. Every time, every damn time, I say "be careful the powers you give to your guy, the other guy will eventually wield them." I've been right every time I've said that.

You can call him Hitler or Nazi, or you can try to arrest this trend towards civil war. You can't have both. Which do you want? Do you want civil war? If you don't want it, what are you doing to defuse the current atmosphere?

Are you blind to how he's totally stomping all over the Constitution?

And note that your approach to avoiding war is appeasement. History will tell you how bad a solution this is.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I listened to a democrat form Oregon say how she was glad he was dead. Said with vitriol.

The left is showing itself to be as crazy and extreme as any of the MAGA.

No matter what the left does we will be viewed as "crazy". People think it's "crazy" just to oppose the death penalty ffs.

 

[unapologetic]

Do you want civil war? If you don't want it, what are you doing to defuse the current atmosphere?

Oh yeah?
What do you suggest? Voting? I'm already doing that.
Protest? I'm doing that too. They are ignoring us. They learned from the protests of the 60s. Just ignore us, we get depressed and go away.
I can't compete with FauxNews.