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CIA says "High Confidence" that Putin involved with Hacking

Assange and Snowden say it wasn't the Russians. They have credibility.

Wikileaks has become a Russian tool. Assange isn't credible.

If you dare criticize the US government for anything, ever, of course you're a Russian[sic] tool.

Which then strips you of credibility by default even though neither Wikileaks nor Assange are Russian tools.
 
Wikileaks has become a Russian tool. Assange isn't credible.

If you dare criticize the US government for anything, ever, of course you're a Russian[sic] tool.

Which then strips you of credibility by default even though neither Wikileaks nor Assange are Russian tools.

The problem with Wikileaks is that their leaks now seem to be dancing to Moscow's tune. I think what happened is when they lost most of their popular funding Russia stepped in--and to keep that funding they have to do what Moscow wants.
 
If you dare criticize the US government for anything, ever, of course you're a Russian[sic] tool.

Which then strips you of credibility by default even though neither Wikileaks nor Assange are Russian tools.

The problem with Wikileaks is that their leaks now seem to be dancing to Moscow's tune. I think what happened is when they lost most of their popular funding Russia stepped in--and to keep that funding they have to do what Moscow wants.

And who's fault is that? They were "blockaded" by most western financial institutions from having money transferred to them.
 
If you dare criticize the US government for anything, ever, of course you're a Russian[sic] tool.

Which then strips you of credibility by default even though neither Wikileaks nor Assange are Russian tools.

The problem with Wikileaks is that their leaks now seem to be dancing to Moscow's tune. I think what happened is when they lost most of their popular funding Russia stepped in--and to keep that funding they have to do what Moscow wants.

Of course it looks like they are dancing to Moscow's tune - they actually criticize the US. Only a damn Ruskie would do something so despicable as to criticize the US.
 
The problem with Wikileaks is that their leaks now seem to be dancing to Moscow's tune. I think what happened is when they lost most of their popular funding Russia stepped in--and to keep that funding they have to do what Moscow wants.

Of course it looks like they are dancing to Moscow's tune - they actually criticize the US. Only a damn Ruskie would do something so despicable as to criticize the US.
But Wikileaks, in this case, didn't leak stuff about American policies or programs or anything illegal. They leaked embarrassing internal Democrat Party emails. They weren't acting as a whistle blower, but as a gossip at the request of Moscow.
 
Only a damn Ruskie would do something so despicable as to criticize the US.

... or maybe some dude who has been sequestered in a foreign embassy for several years, going half-insane in rage against the country that stuck him there for his past whistle-blowing activities.
Nah - let's not take any of the glory away from the Orange Oligarch's tremendously YUUUUGE landslide victory!
 
Only a damn Ruskie would do something so despicable as to criticize the US.

... or maybe some dude who has been sequestered in a foreign embassy for several years, going half-insane in rage against the country that stuck him there for his past whistle-blowing activities.
Nah - let's not take any of the glory away from the Orange Oligarch's tremendously YUUUUGE landslide victory!

Sweden?
 
... or maybe some dude who has been sequestered in a foreign embassy for several years, going half-insane in rage against the country that stuck him there for his past whistle-blowing activities.
Nah - let's not take any of the glory away from the Orange Oligarch's tremendously YUUUUGE landslide victory!

Sweden?

Not according to Assange. He SAYS (and he's a credible source, according to all those who say the CIA, NSA, FBI et al are not), he'd happily go face the bogus charges in Sweden if not for fear of extradition to you-know-where.
 
If you don't want to be exposed as corrupt, perhaps don't be corrupt?

Tell it to Don the Con.

ETA: Sorry - now I remember. All he has to do is yell "Lies! All Liiiiies!" and he becomes an honest, hard-working man-o-da-peeps. :Rolleyes:
 
The problem with Wikileaks is that their leaks now seem to be dancing to Moscow's tune. I think what happened is when they lost most of their popular funding Russia stepped in--and to keep that funding they have to do what Moscow wants.

And who's fault is that? They were "blockaded" by most western financial institutions from having money transferred to them.

It doesn't matter why. They sold out, they are no longer a clearinghouse of things that should see the light of day, but rather an intel arm of the Russians.
 
And who's fault is that? They were "blockaded" by most western financial institutions from having money transferred to them.

It doesn't matter why. They sold out, they are no longer a clearinghouse of things that should see the light of day, but rather an intel arm of the Russians.

Because only a dirty Russian would ever release anything embarrassing to the US.

Perhaps, and this is just a wild guess, if the Russians are supporting them, it is not because they are Russian agents but simply because their current activities are pleasing to the Russians. Without them being Russian agents.
 
Perhaps, and this is just a wild guess, if the Russians are supporting them, it is not because they are Russian agents but simply because their current activities are pleasing to the Russians. Without them being Russian agents.

Great guess! I bet there's a Russian gofundme page for wikileaks, and all those highly pleased Russian peasants are sending them a few rubles each. But Putin is probably unaware of their support for the pleasers.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me...
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It doesn't matter why. They sold out, they are no longer a clearinghouse of things that should see the light of day, but rather an intel arm of the Russians.

Because only a dirty Russian would ever release anything embarrassing to the US.

Perhaps, and this is just a wild guess, if the Russians are supporting them, it is not because they are Russian agents but simply because their current activities are pleasing to the Russians. Without them being Russian agents.

The issue is a matter of not releasing things Moscow doesn't want released.
 
Because only a dirty Russian would ever release anything embarrassing to the US.

Perhaps, and this is just a wild guess, if the Russians are supporting them, it is not because they are Russian agents but simply because their current activities are pleasing to the Russians. Without them being Russian agents.

The issue is a matter of not releasing things Moscow doesn't want released.
Really? What does Wikileaks have that Moscow doesn't want released? How do you know this?
 
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