Climate Change(d)?

[steve_bank]

I'd want to line in California as much as I.d wnat to live in Australia. Not very much.

 

[TSwizzle]

Germany is keeping its nuclear plants running for the short term;

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has ordered the country's three remaining nuclear power stations to keep operating until mid-April, as the energy crisis sparked by Russia's invasion of Ukraine hurts the economy. Originally Germany planned to phase out all three by the end of this year. Mr Scholz's order overruled the Greens in his coalition, who wanted two plants kept on standby, to be used if needed. After relying so heavily on Russian gas Germany is now scrambling to maintain sufficient reserves for the winter. The crisis has also prompted it to restart mothballed coal-fired power stations, though the plan is to phase out coal in the drive for green energy.

BBC

"Green energy" (windmills and solar) is a bust but that won't stop the deluded from banging on about it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Germany is keeping its nuclear plants running for the short term;

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has ordered the country's three remaining nuclear power stations to keep operating until mid-April, as the energy crisis sparked by Russia's invasion of Ukraine hurts the economy. Originally Germany planned to phase out all three by the end of this year. Mr Scholz's order overruled the Greens in his coalition, who wanted two plants kept on standby, to be used if needed. After relying so heavily on Russian gas Germany is now scrambling to maintain sufficient reserves for the winter. The crisis has also prompted it to restart mothballed coal-fired power stations, though the plan is to phase out coal in the drive for green energy.

BBC

"Green energy" (windmills and solar) is a bust but that won't stop the deluded from banging on about it.

You remind me of these people. You could be right, but you are doing such a shitty job of actually presenting the case. All you like to do is shit on people, call them deluded, cultish, etc...ish.

 

[Jarhyn]

Germany is keeping its nuclear plants running for the short term;

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has ordered the country's three remaining nuclear power stations to keep operating until mid-April, as the energy crisis sparked by Russia's invasion of Ukraine hurts the economy. Originally Germany planned to phase out all three by the end of this year. Mr Scholz's order overruled the Greens in his coalition, who wanted two plants kept on standby, to be used if needed. After relying so heavily on Russian gas Germany is now scrambling to maintain sufficient reserves for the winter. The crisis has also prompted it to restart mothballed coal-fired power stations, though the plan is to phase out coal in the drive for green energy.

BBC

"Green energy" (windmills and solar) is a bust but that won't stop the deluded from banging on about it.

You remind me of these people. You could be right, but you are doing such a shitty job of actually presenting the case. All you like to do is shit on people, call them deluded, cultish, etc...ish.

Not to mention that many folks view nuclear, have always viewed nuclear, as "green energy".

 

[bilby]

Germany is keeping its nuclear plants running for the short term;

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has ordered the country's three remaining nuclear power stations to keep operating until mid-April, as the energy crisis sparked by Russia's invasion of Ukraine hurts the economy. Originally Germany planned to phase out all three by the end of this year. Mr Scholz's order overruled the Greens in his coalition, who wanted two plants kept on standby, to be used if needed. After relying so heavily on Russian gas Germany is now scrambling to maintain sufficient reserves for the winter. The crisis has also prompted it to restart mothballed coal-fired power stations, though the plan is to phase out coal in the drive for green energy.

BBC

"Green energy" (windmills and solar) is a bust but that won't stop the deluded from banging on about it.

You remind me of these people. You could be right, but you are doing such a shitty job of actually presenting the case. All you like to do is shit on people, call them deluded, cultish, etc...ish.

Not to mention that many folks view nuclear, have always viewed nuclear, as "green energy".

To be fair, that's only because it's by far the least damaging to the environment of all electricity generation technologies.

 

[steve_bank]

In the news today Seattle has some of the worse air quality in the world. School s[orts have been canceld, and today oiy was recomned everybody limit going outside.

Cause. smoke from fires lasting well past the usual fore seacns, and more fires. It is a clear dayand it looked like a fog.

Rising temperatures and low humidity. Fires ranging from Oregon to Vancouver BC.

The fires are expected to end with rain stating Friday.

 

[TV and credit cards]

So we'll build the small modular reactors if there is the required HALEU fuel available. And we'll produce the HALEU fuel if there are SMRs in which to sell it.
Okay, this is where you come in Joe. It takes at least five years from the time we start. Leave a lasting legacy.
The only one who is producing the required fuel right now is Russia but they are having another psychotic episode so we can't count on them.
America's new nuclear power industry.

 

[steve_bank]

There are intrinsically safe reactor designs.

 

[steve_bank]

Atlantic storms.

I ran a moving moving avergae flete on the Atlanyc strom data. ThThe resuts is a running 20 yera acerage. At a yer rub abaverage 29 yers back, Move to the next tear and repeat.

Th coliums are avergae named storms, averged hurricanes, avegaed major storms.

ARMA overaggressive moving average can yield a trend for raggedy looking data.


Sclib scriptlear
mclose("all")

s1 = "C:\Users\Documents\SCILAB\Science\hurrcanes\h2.txt"
s2 = "C:\Users\Documents\SCILAB\Science\hurrcanes\hout.txt"

[f1,err] = mopen(s1,"rt")
if(err < 0)then disp("file open error ",err);end;
N = mfscanf(1,f1," %d")
y = mfscanf(N,f1,"%s %f %f %f")
mclose("all")
navg = 20

avg_count = 1

for i = navg:N
storn_sum = 0
named_sum = 0
hurr_sum = 0
major_sum = 0
for j = 0:navg-1
k = i - j
named_sum = named_sum + y(k,2)
hurr_sum = hurr_sum + y(k ,3)
major_sum = major_sum + y(k,4)
end
named_avg(avg_count) = named_sum/navg
hurr_avg(avg_count) = hurr_sum/navg
major_avg(avg_count) = major_sum/navg
avg_count = avg_count + 1

end

fd = mopen(s2,'wt');

for i = 1:avg_count-1
mfprintf(fd,"%2.2f %2.2f %2.2f\n",named_avg(i),hurr_avg(i),major_avg(i));
end
mclose(fd)

w1 = scf(1)
clf(w1)
plot2d(named_avg)
title("NAMED STORMS ")
xgrid

w2 = scf(2)
clf(w2)
plot2d(hurr_avg)
title("HURRICANES ")
xgrid

w3 = scf(3)
clf(w3)
plot2d(major_avg)
title("MAJOR HURRICANES ")
xgrid

1850-2017

An increase in 2 hueeuxcBWS OR Njor storns is significant.

named storms - hurricanes - major storms

6.80 4.90 0.75
6.90 5.05 0.80
6.90 5.00 0.75
6.75 4.95 0.75
6.85 5.00 0.70
6.90 5.05 0.70
6.85 5.05 0.70
7.05 5.05 0.75
7.35 5.25 0.85
7.35 5.20 0.90
7.55 5.35 0.95
7.50 5.25 0.95
7.50 5.30 1.05
7.25 5.20 1.15
7.20 5.25 1.20
7.25 5.40 1.20
7.50 5.60 1.35
8.00 5.80 1.40
8.25 5.95 1.50
8.20 5.90 1.45
7.85 5.50 1.40
7.95 5.55 1.35
8.15 5.60 1.35
8.50 5.95 1.50
8.50 6.00 1.70
8.50 5.85 1.65
8.60 5.95 1.65
8.50 5.95 1.60
8.45 5.70 1.55
8.55 5.65 1.55
8.35 5.35 1.55
8.65 5.45 1.55
8.60 5.40 1.45
8.90 5.60 1.40
9.00 5.60 1.35
8.85 5.35 1.40
8.80 5.15 1.35
8.10 4.60 1.25
8.15 4.60 1.20
8.30 4.60 1.40
8.35 4.65 1.40
8.15 4.45 1.35
8.05 4.40 1.40
7.75 4.10 1.15
7.45 3.85 0.95
7.45 4.00 1.10
7.85 4.20 1.25
7.75 4.15 1.35
7.50 4.10 1.35
7.25 3.95 1.30
7.15 4.00 1.20
6.85 3.95 1.30
6.85 3.95 1.35
6.80 3.80 1.35
7.05 3.85 1.45
7.00 3.85 1.40
7.00 3.95 1.55
7.15 4.15 1.60
6.95 4.05 1.60
6.60 3.90 1.45
6.50 3.85 1.50
6.85 3.85 1.55
7.25 3.95 1.70
7.95 4.30 2.00
8.55 4.65 2.05
8.65 4.65 2.05
8.75 4.50 1.85
9.10 4.60 1.80
9.25 4.60 1.85
9.30 4.65 1.85
9.50 4.75 1.85
9.45 4.70 1.90
9.75 4.75 1.90
9.80 4.80 1.95
9.95 4.95 2.00
10.30 5.15 2.10
10.05 4.90 1.85
10.10 4.95 1.90
10.25 5.05 2.05
10.65 5.25 2.15
11.15 5.70 2.45
11.00 5.95 2.65
10.60 5.95 2.60
10.30 5.70 2.50
10.20 5.75 2.55
10.40 5.95 2.70
9.95 5.80 2.75
9.80 5.75 2.80
9.85 5.90 2.95
10.10 6.10 3.00
10.00 6.00 3.10
9.95 5.95 3.00
9.85 6.10 3.05
9.95 6.15 3.25
9.55 5.95 3.15
9.55 6.05 3.20
9.65 6.20 3.20
9.60 6.15 3.10
10.05 6.45 3.15
9.90 6.35 3.10
9.90 6.10 2.75
9.75 5.85 2.50
9.80 5.75 2.40
9.65 5.65 2.30
9.55 5.55 2.35
9.45 5.40 2.15
9.35 5.45 2.10
9.55 5.55 2.10
9.50 5.45 1.95
9.50 5.55 1.95
9.75 5.70 2.00
9.80 5.65 2.00
9.55 5.45 1.95
9.60 5.40 1.70
9.85 5.55 1.80
9.60 5.40 1.65
9.55 5.25 1.65
9.75 5.30 1.80
9.40 5.05 1.65
9.60 5.20 1.60
9.35 5.10 1.65
9.35 5.15 1.70
9.35 5.15 1.70
9.15 5.10 1.60
9.65 5.35 1.70
9.80 5.50 1.90
9.90 5.40 1.90
10.00 5.65 1.95
10.15 5.80 2.10
10.35 5.75 2.15
10.50 5.85 2.20
10.80 5.95 2.25
11.40 6.15 2.35
11.50 6.35 2.60
11.45 6.25 2.55
11.90 6.35 2.65
12.35 6.60 2.85
12.20 6.50 2.80
12.60 6.75 2.95
12.85 6.70 3.10
13.40 7.00 3.10
13.75 6.90 3.05
13.75 7.00 3.10
13.95 7.05 3.20
13.75 6.85 3.15
13.95 6.90 3.15

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR

North Atlantic Ocean Statistics compared with climatology

tropical.atmos.colostate.edu

 

[Swammerdami]

The New York Times recently published a long report on climate change.

Good news: This century's temperature rise (currently 1.2°C) was once forecast as 4-5° worst-case, but is now forecast to be only 2-3°C. This is due to global commitments by Europe, U.S., China and other countries, and due to falling prices of solar panels and batteries, and due to increased production of electric vehicles, etc. (The article gives only slight mention of nuclear power — "Greta Thunberg, the unyielding face of climate alarm, recently affirmed her support for at least existing nuclear power ... [the U.S.] climate bill ... included support for nuclear power" — but I hope discussion goes beyond yet another redundant iteration of anti-renewable screedings.)

Bad news: Even a 2-3°C rise is a lot. “For me, what we are witnessing at the present level of warming, it is already challenging the limits to adaptation for humans,” says Fahad Saeed of Climate Analytics.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The New York Times recently published a long report on climate change.

Good news: This century's temperature rise (currently 1.2°C) was once forecast as 4-5° worst-case, but is now forecast to be only 2-3°C. This is due to global commitments by Europe, U.S., China and other countries, and due to falling prices of solar panels and batteries, and due to increased production of electric vehicles, etc. (The article gives only slight mention of nuclear power — "Greta Thunberg, the unyielding face of climate alarm, recently affirmed her support for at least existing nuclear power ... [the U.S.] climate bill ... included support for nuclear power" — but I hope discussion goes beyond yet another redundant iteration of anti-renewable screedings.)

Bad news: Even a 2-3°C rise is a lot. “For me, what we are witnessing at the present level of warming, it is already challenging the limits to adaptation for humans,” says Fahad Saeed of Climate Analytics.

More bad news: The IPCC predictions completely ignore methane hydrates. Not enough is known to make reasonable predictions so they are completely omitted--but the high end estimates of the problem make it worse than the high range estimates for CO2 issues.

 

[TSwizzle]

OMG!!11!!!!11

The climate crisis has reached a “really bleak moment”, one of the world’s leading climate scientists has said, after a slew of major reports laid bare how close the planet is to catastrophe. the world was coming “very, very close to irreversible changes … time is really running out very, very fast”. The UN environment agency’s report found there was “no credible pathway to 1.5C in place” and that “woefully inadequate” progress on cutting carbon emissions means the only way to limit the worst impacts of the climate crisis is a “rapid transformation of societies”. Current pledges for action by 2030, even if delivered in full, would mean a rise in global heating of about 2.5C, a level that would condemn the world to catastrophic climate breakdown

Teh Gruaniad

The article goes on to really target the profits the oil companies make.

“rapid transformation of societies”

The “climate crisis” hysteria is really a vendetta against oil companies and humanity and nothing to do with the weather. Why people give any credence to these charlatans is beyond me but that’s the thing about these religions, some people do fall for it.

An end of times rapture like cult.

 

[Shadowy Man]

You forget to mention the temperature in Santa Monica today.

 

[steve_bank]

I am sure when the horseless carriage was introduced blacksmiths, horse breeders, buggy makers, and horse feed disturbers clung to the crapping in the street horses.

EVs are an evolution i transportation as was gas powered cars. The total cost of ownership of EVs are lower than gas cars.

I remember the 70s Arab Oil Embargo. In response Congress enacted incentives to developed alternate energy. Peope were making their own solar heating systems. In the late 19th and early 2oth centuries there was actualy a growimg solar heating industry. It was killed off by the development of cheap natural gas.

No. 2812: Solar Power in 1884

In which Samuel P. Langley talks about solar powered engines in 1884

www.uh.edu

Practical Sterling Engines go back to the 19th century. They are used today for commercial electrical power generation.

Stirling engine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When the embargo ended and gas supplies came back instead of efficiency big auto went big gas guzzlers. The incentives expired and were not renewed.

This time with the obvious issue with oil supplies plus the environment popular demand is pushing big auto to go electric.

Oil company profits are up while people struggle with gas prices. In our free market system oil copanies are responsive to shareholders, not the citizens who depend on gasoline.

I imagine in the 19th century TSwizzle would be railing aainst horseless carriages as a cult and clinging to riding a horse.

I would think distributed power down to the home getting rid of the fossil fluel corporate power and control wold appeal to the anti federal power types. Certaily Libertarians. I'd think they woud go wholesale solar.

Fossle fuel comanies have weilded a lot of poltical power.

 

[TSwizzle]

You forget to mention the temperature in Santa Monica today.

I’m not in Santa Monica today, I’m in the SF Valley where it’s a catastrophic 80f today. We need a rapid transformation of society to get the temp down to 79.5f. Stat.

 

[steve_bank]

You forget to mention the temperature in Santa Monica today.

I’m not in Santa Monica today, I’m in the SF Valley where it’s a catastrophic 80f today. We need a rapid transformation of society to get the temp down to 79.5f. Stat.

How's the water supply?

How high is your dwelling above sea level?

 

[TSwizzle]

You forget to mention the temperature in Santa Monica today.

I’m not in Santa Monica today, I’m in the SF Valley where it’s a catastrophic 80f today. We need a rapid transformation of society to get the temp down to 79.5f. Stat.

How's the water supply?

Seems good, had a shower, washed two cars, topped up the swimming pool.

How high is your dwelling above sea level?

My house is at least 600ft above sea level. I don’t think I can move much higher. Id actually like a beachfront house in Malibu but for some strange reason these houses are millions of dollars. What kind of fool is going to pay that kind of money for a property that is going to be underwater in a few months?

Steve lad, relax.

 

[steve_bank]

In the words of Alfred E. Newman 'What, me worry?'
.

I had a good run. If an asteroid was heading for Seattle it would not worry me much.

It is the kids today who have to face the worse of it going forward. That is if you have any feelings for other than your own self.

The car cult.

 

[Elixir]

My house is at least 600ft above sea level. I don’t think I can move much higher. Id actually like a beachfront house in Malibu but for some strange reason these houses are millions of dollars. What kind of fool is going to pay that kind of money for a property that is going to be underwater in a few months?

It’s not so much the purchase price - any old welfare millionaire can afford that. But have you checked today’s insurance costs?

 

[Shadowy Man]

You forget to mention the temperature in Santa Monica today.

I’m not in Santa Monica today, I’m in the SF Valley where it’s a catastrophic 80f today. We need a rapid transformation of society to get the temp down to 79.5f. Stat.

Oh no! if we don’t know the situation in Santa Monica how can we possibly assess the global climate??