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Climate Change(d)?

Over 100 F off the coast of Florida! I barely like my shower much hotter than that.
 
It is a cult, but the cult has the insurance companies in pocket now, as insurance companies or insurance complexes (Florida, Louisiana) are abandoning areas altogether or struggling to make ends meet. It is funny how insurance used to work before the 1990s. But now with the hurricane microwave in the Gulf, states like Louisiana and Florida can't manage the financial toll of repeated strikes. The cost of flood insurance is going up... a lot!
 
It was 101 degrees at our house in coastal central Florida on Saturday. When I went to bed Friday night it was still 91 degrees. Florida is always hot in summer but that level of heat with our humidity is brutal. We are harvesting Coconuts, Mangos, Bananas, and Pineapples in a place where 20 years ago we grew southern strain peaches and plums. I've grubbed out those trees because they quit setting fruit 10 years ago. Sea Bream are replacing Sheepshead in the lagoon behind the house. Centropomus are breeding at Cedar Key now. Harvested 18,000 pounds of tilapia from one seine haul in May in a lake that didn't have any tropical species 20 years ago. But its all fake. We've been in our current house since 2014. The lowest temperature we've recorded is 33F. We are still listed in USDA Zone 9B; until the next map update I reckon.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Santa Monica might be ok, but in Phoenix they're facing a rash of road burns. Not from sliding, but merely from falling on the road.

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I believe today will be day 26 in a row over 110. I've lived here for a long time, and tell people that anything under 110 is just "warm."

This is hot. Forecast says it's going to cool off next week...to 107 or so. My electric for next month is projected to be 1/3 higher than the highest it's ever been, since the AC runs constantly (and doesn't keep up despite it being a newer unit). I'd like to say I can't imagine what it must be like to work outside, but a few years ago I was working outside one day when it was 117, and I had to haul stuff back and forth between our store and the main store most days. Nowadays I'm glad to have covered parking at work.

Also, the rain. We're in the monsoon, but there hasn't been a drop. This will be the driest July on record as well as the warmest. Until next year...?
 
Living in the Philippines and visiting Ohio from time to time I found it took about two weeks to acclimatize to the different environment. I had no air conditioning in the Philippines. Most evenings when the power went out and the fan spun down, we went out to the porch rather than stay in the house.
Plants adapt, animals adapt, humans will too once they figure out having their air conditioners maintain such an extreme temperature differential isn't doing them any favors. If they ever figure it out. I suppose if you've lived your entire life in comfort, self-preservation may never kick in.
If I had to choose, I'd take the discomfort of hot and humid over over the more deceptive dry heat. Having the moisture sucked out of your body without visibly sweating, I found more dangerous as I had to constantly remind myself to drink more water. I've watched people drop from heat exhaustion a few times in the dry heat of Yosemite. Each time it was an active child.
 
www.bbc.com

The ancient Persian way to keep cool

From ancient Egypt to the Persian Empire, an ingenious method of catching the breeze kept people cool for millennia. Now, it could come to our aid once again.
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In the Southeast people built multistory homes with basements. Open up the basement and upper story windows. Same effect.
 
robnisch said:
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The ancient Persian way to keep cool

From ancient Egypt to the Persian Empire, an ingenious method of catching the breeze kept people cool for millennia. Now, it could come to our aid once again.
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In the Southeast people built multistory homes with basements. Open up the basement and upper story windows. Same effect.
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Cold air falls, not rises. Opening up the upper story windows allows for the hot air to escape on its own accord.
 
I don't use my AC at night, and we never put the AC lower than 76. It's been a fairly normal summer here in central Georgia, but it's very obvious that looking at what's happening all over the world, that climate change is already here, even sooner than predicted. I saw on the news that some barns are experiencing spontaneous combustion from the heat. One farmer said he lost at least 70% of his corn crop due to the heat and lack of rain. Georgia lost almost all of its peach crop, due to the crazy weather we had last winter. Maybe the denialists will face reality when they can't get enough food.
 
It comes down to food and water.

Last weekend was busy in Seattle, multiple events. Two sold out Taylor Swift concerts at Seahawlks Stadium, I heard the crowd from my apartment.

People spending hundreds of dollars on TS t shirts and sweat shirts.

My impression is that while people may be aware of the climate issue, the majority of peole have no revitalization that without food they die.

Satiated and oblivious. Until food supply is affected to the point grocery stores are no longer full all the time.

We are failng the Darwin Test.

So endeth the preaching.
 
southernhybrid said:
Maybe the denialists will face reality when they can't get enough food.
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Like when they don't get access to water?!!!

TSwizzle said:
southernhybrid said:
Maybe those in denial will face reality when they don't have access to water.
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Incredible pictures show California's Lake Oroville full of water following a crippling drought that left it at a critically low level. Stunning images of the Enterprise Bridge provide a comparison between it in July of 2021 and June 2023 - when the reservoir was filled completely for the first time since 2012. In late 2021, Oroville's water levels dipped to their lowest ever at just over 628 feet, or 24 percent capacity. Whereas now, levels are measuring at 100 percent capacity, and 127 percent of where they usually are around this time of year. California's largest reservoir, about 120 miles north of Lake Oroville, is also close to full - reaching almost 97 percent capacity last week.
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Daily Mail
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Do you type that out in full or do you have a script that types it?


Anyway, Teh Gruaniad is very disappointed that the general public are not scared of climate change despite their non stop fearmongering with climate catastrophe porn;

Despite extreme heat and weather in the US, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear. There’s a psychological reason for it. despite the fact that we’re living through a climate disaster, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear every day about the future of our planet.
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Teh Gruaniad

I expect Teh Gruaniad will try to up the climate hysteria to 11.

It's a catastrophic 72f in Santa Monica today. Please pray for Santa Monica.


It really is a rapture like cult.
 
TSwizzle said:
southernhybrid said:
Maybe the denialists will face reality when they can't get enough food.
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Like when they don't get access to water?!!!

TSwizzle said:
southernhybrid said:
Maybe those in denial will face reality when they don't have access to water.
Click to expand...

Incredible pictures show California's Lake Oroville full of water following a crippling drought that left it at a critically low level. Stunning images of the Enterprise Bridge provide a comparison between it in July of 2021 and June 2023 - when the reservoir was filled completely for the first time since 2012. In late 2021, Oroville's water levels dipped to their lowest ever at just over 628 feet, or 24 percent capacity. Whereas now, levels are measuring at 100 percent capacity, and 127 percent of where they usually are around this time of year. California's largest reservoir, about 120 miles north of Lake Oroville, is also close to full - reaching almost 97 percent capacity last week.
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Daily Mail
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Do you type that out in full or do you have a script that types it?


Anyway, Teh Gruaniad is very disappointed that the general public are not scared of climate change despite their non stop fearmongering with climate catastrophe porn;

Despite extreme heat and weather in the US, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear. There’s a psychological reason for it. despite the fact that we’re living through a climate disaster, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear every day about the future of our planet.
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Teh Gruaniad

I expect Teh Gruaniad will try to up the climate hysteria to 11.

It's a catastrophic 72f in Santa Monica today. Please pray for Santa Monica.


It really is a rapture like cult.
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:ROFLMAO: :LOL::cheer:

BTW., some time ago you claimed that all cliimate change forecasts over the past 20 or so years had been wrong, so I posted proof that they had all actually been correct, except for several that underestimated the rate and severity of climate change. You never did respond, despite several invitations to do so. Here’s another. You can either respond by admittinig your were wrong, or you can continue to hide under the Santa Monica pier until the tide comes in for good.
 
Since I have some articles left to gift, let's do some regarding climate change
Glad I don't plan to vacation in Greece.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/26/...iVctxv_bHY_BfkcvRfNTq4I4mz3qH0&smid=url-share

As thousands of tourists have fled the flames devouring the Greek island of Rhodes, locals were left with scorched land, and the ashes of the cypresses, olive trees and pines surrounding their empty bars, shops and hotels.

Many fear their livelihoods have been shattered for now and perhaps for the future, if the visitors, a core source of income for the island, do not return.

“It was green, and now it’s black,” said George Tirelis, who manages some holiday villas in the south of Rhodes, which are now empty and surrounded by charred land. “Tourists are scared now to come.”

More than most European countries, Greece depends on the summer months of tourism to pay for the rest of the year, and its economy heavily relies on the attractiveness of its crystalline seas and picturesque landscapes. The fires that have spread since last week have blighted the country’s image as a vacation retreat, prompting what officials called its largest evacuation in recent history, causing huge damage to buildings and the environment and killing at least two people.
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It's sad.
 
Oh wait. There's more.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/..._RXKtVwM7tbuqKnb4Jlt-LypKYKQng&smid=url-share

Power plants are churning across the United States and China, the world’s leading emitters of greenhouse gases, struggling to meet air-conditioning demand. Wildfires are raging in Southern Europe and Canada, with more than a month of peak fire season left. Explosive thunderstorms, torrential monsoons and extreme heat are sowing destruction and threatening lives across three continents.

And there is little relief in sight, from the mountains and megacities of Asia to the lakes and rivers of Europe or the plains, forests and suburbs of North America. In the short-term, meteorologists predicted more intense heat and extreme weather over the next month.

In the long-term, scientists say, climate change is making heat waves hotter, more frequent and longer; making wildfires bigger and more intense; affecting air quality, rainfall, and droughts — reaching every corner of Earth, driven by the burning of fossil fuels by humans.

“The hard part isn’t over,” Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis of Greece said on Thursday. In his country, wildfires have burned scores of homes and thousands of acres of forestland over the last week, and temperatures are forecast to reach 113 degrees Fahrenheit, or 45 Celsius, on Sunday in the central region of Thessaly.

A fire service spokesman, Ioannis Artopios, said that the intensely dry heat was creating “even more difficult” conditions for Greek firefighters. Similarly parched conditions have fueled the record fire season in Canada, where more than 25 million acres have burned so far this year.
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I know what to do. The world can all move to Santa Monica. :rolleyes:

Nothing to worry about. One guy on the internet knows more than over 98% of scientists. o_O
 
Not to be totally pessimistic, I'm going post a link to a rather long article about one possible solution to some of the damage being done to coral reefs, which are dying off in large numbers and which are vitally important to the environment, not just Marine life.

Some of you may have seen a bit about this on last night's news. It's about some people who are growing coral on land and then putting it in the ocean. I'm not sure how realistic this plan is, but ya gotta give these people credit for at least trying to find solutions to the damage humans have done to the environment. It's very long so I'll just post the link for anyone how may be interested.

https://wapo.st/454FxPG
 
TV and credit cards said:
If I had to choose, I'd take the discomfort of hot and humid over over the more deceptive dry heat. Having the moisture sucked out of your body without visibly sweating, I found more dangerous as I had to constantly remind myself to drink more water. I've watched people drop from heat exhaustion a few times in the dry heat of Yosemite. Each time it was an active child.
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Dry heat is far more survivable than wet heat. I have had to be out for an extended period in 110F weather multiple times--unpleasant but not dangerous so long as I have enough water (and I've never done it without ready access to water.) 110F of wet heat would be extremely dangerous no matter what precautions I took. I do agree a child could drop from heat exhaustion but said child would drop in wet heat also.
 
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