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The FBI typically doesn't talk about investigations when their on-going, which is why your smoking gun hasn't exactly been disclosed yet.
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You can't even do "that". Where's the example. WP? Where did MSM publish the ravings of an alt-right (or alt-left) loon, as fact?
You are equivocating the conclusion of 17 independent intelligence agencies with the ramblings of one deranged radio talk show host!! SAD!
I doubt it. But that would be irrelevant anyhow. You asserted that MSM is Fake News. I asked for an example. You probably forgot that was the question, right?
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Here is a dinger. The latest guilty plea for Mueller’s investigation is married to the daughter of the guy who cofounded Alfa Group. Trump-Russia inquiry: Lawyer Alex van der Zwaan pleads guiltyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43131795
13 Russians indicted, Congress voting for sanctions against Russia 419-3 and then 98-2, one of the people in this photo :
pleading guilty in an investigation pertaining to Russian interference, whoever the fuck this guy is:
doing the same for the same investigation, let's not forget this fucking guy:
and now Alex van der Zwaan pleading guilty as well. You are giving the impression that if you were to wake up naked strapped to a desk and a giant cross-dressing truck driver walks in with a big black rubber dildo, your first thought would be, "Well, this is certainly confusing, let's wait a while before we make any rash conclusions; this could go either way."
Oh, and I forgot about mentioning Carter Page, Manafort and Gates. There's some more "nothing produced" for you.
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Fascinating. Could it all be coming together?
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The question of importance is why was the FBI interviewing a lawyer from London.
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I am totally OK with the theory that this newly wed Dutchman is somehow guilty of something ( he apparently lied about meeting Gates) But it does change the fact that original BS is just that - BS. And I still would like to know how said BS came about, I can't imagine IT experts were not lying when they were saying this Alfa Bank story is something-burger.
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He is a son in law of a Russian billionaire and met Rick Gates. That's well above threshold for an interview.
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This guy probably was a partner to Gates and Manafort in previous Ukranian shit show. They all funneled money from Russia to do shit to Ukraine. In his case he made a false case against former Ukrainian politicians when secretly hired by Russians?
However, he lied about recent contact with both Gates and Manafort (the unidentified person). He said no contact. The implication is that the business dealings may have continued.
Now look at the links. He's strongly associated with Alfa bank/whatever that kept pinging TrumpCo. So it seems he has the goods on them. He may flip, too, giving up the Russian oligarchs and how they transferred money to TrumpCo.
This guy is going to meet an unfortunate accident soon...
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Then your imagination needs work, comrade.
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However, he lied about recent contact with both Gates and Manafort (the unidentified person). He said no contact. The implication is that the business dealings may have continued.
Now look at the links. He's strongly associated with Alfa bank/whatever that kept pinging TrumpCo. So it seems he has the goods on them. He may flip, too, giving up the Russian oligarchs and how they transferred money to TrumpCo.
This guy is going to meet an unfortunate accident soon...
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Then your imagination needs work, comrade.
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Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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He's son in law of Russian oligarch connected to Alfa bank, no? He lied about contact with Gates and Manafort to FBI.
barbos
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Alfa Bank connection is redundant here. Russian billionaire (or oligarch) by definition have connection to government.
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As opposed to CIA who funneled money to do good in Ukraine
What part of "Alfa Bank DNS story is utter bullshit" you still don't understand?
If I was Putin I would start FSB investigation into this and requested interviews with these people.
Well, I can imagine some expert who is paid to lie about it. I can't imagine expert that stupid to actually believe that bullshit.
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Here is real analysis of this BS
http://www.deependresearch.org/2017/03/analysis-of-trumps-secret-server-story.html
http://www.deependresearch.org/2017/03/analysis-of-trumps-secret-server-story.html
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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What part of "he lied about contact with Gates and Manafort to FBI" are you having difficulty with accepting?
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As opposed to CIA who funneled money to do good in Ukraine
Whataboutism.
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The part I don't understand is why it popped up over and over again. Can you explain that?
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Send him a note about it next time you see him?
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Then you either have a poor imagination or something is blocking you from being able to creatively brainstorm possible reasons for non-random observations regarding Alfa bank.
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Yes, so? US meddled with Ukrainian elections twice, first time when Yanukovich won in 2004 (Yes he won) But US was not happy with him hence orange revolution. And second time in 2014 when illegal coup was used to overthrow him.
All because he was nominally pro-russian and not rabidly anti-russian enough for neocons.
Nothing popped up. Not before and not now.
No, I am not doing your job. I gave you a link where real IT experts explain to you that your stupid imagination is bullshit.
I find your stupid comments and that whole theory is insulting to my competence and intelligence.
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Well, from that, it seems barbos accepts that Russian intervention did happen.
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I admitted it long time ago. I also admitted that russian government spent 98 cents to influence Brexit into their favor.
So the question is really about scale of meddling and who started it first. Actually there is no second question, we know US started it first, CIA director admitted it on record. So, yeah, CIA meddled (and continues to do so) in democratic processes in Russia in order for democracy to win
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