Cop Indicted For Murder

[Sarpedon]

Pleads not guilty. Bail set for 1 million dollars.

How long before a bunch of totally not racists start fund raising for this guy?

 

[Toni]

Yeah. Driving while black. That's a behavior, right?

Driving with driver's licence suspended indefinitely and without front license plate.
But no, playing the race card is good too.

OF course the police officer who executed him KNEW that he was driving with a suspended license which is why he pulled him over. Of course.

The race card was on the table from the beginning of that traffic stop. As well as your first post. Thanks for playing.

 

[laughing dog]

That is not what words 'not a capital crime' means. Capital crime is a crime subject to death penalty, not an action subject to use of deadly force by a police officer.

Ever hear of the saying "When in a hole, stop digging"?

No it doesn't. Saying that something might provide "possible justification" is in no way contradictory to saying that the shooting is most likely not justified.

You are not fooling anyone here except maybe yourself.

I think he reacted to combative behavior by DuBose. Before then, the cop was calm and in no way seemed like somebody purposing to kill another human being
As I said, the situation escalated very quickly.

So what? That police officer is supposed to be a trained professional not a George Zimmerman.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah. Driving while black. That's a behavior, right?

Driving with driver's licence suspended indefinitely and without front license plate.
But no, playing the race card is good too.

Are University Police supposed to pull over for a license plate infraction?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I think he reacted to combative behavior by DuBose. Before then, the cop was calm and in no way seemed like somebody purposing to kill another human being
As I said, the situation escalated very quickly.

I think you mean to say that the Officer helped to escalate the situation very quickly. The idea of letting go of the door handle, and calling in the plate escaped him? Instead, he killed the driver.

Points for posting funny memes in a thread about a guy who was killed though. That is typical Derec.

 

[Derec]

Ever hear of the saying "When in a hole, stop digging"?

What hole? You are pretending your ridiculous "capital crime" nonsense has any merit.

You are not fooling anyone here except maybe yourself.

It's not about fooling anyone, it's about you not understanding plain English words like "possible" and "most likely". Just because A is most likely doesn't mean B is not possible at the same time. You claiming it's a "contradiction" is not fooling anyone.

So what? That police officer is supposed to be a trained professional not a George Zimmerman.

He is still a human being, not a robot. It doesn't make him blameless, but it also doesn't make him a monster, or the dead guy innocent of anything other than "driving while black" as some on here have claimed.

 

[Derec]

I think you mean to say that the Officer helped to escalate the situation very quickly. The idea of letting go of the door handle, and calling in the plate escaped him? Instead, he killed the driver.

They both escalated. Sure, it would have been better if the officer let go and called in a fleeing suspect. By that same token, DuBose should have let go off the door, exited the vehicle and let himself be arrested for driving with a suspended DL. Instead, he got himself killed. Both men made mistakes, and both have or will suffer the consequences.

Points for posting funny memes in a thread about a guy who was killed though. That is typical Derec.

It was very fitting.

 

[laughing dog]

What hole? You are pretending your ridiculous "capital crime" nonsense has any merit.

You are not fooling anyone with this persistent obtuseness.

It's not about fooling anyone, it's about you not understanding plain English words like "possible" and "most likely". Just because A is most likely doesn't mean B is not possible at the same time. You claiming it's a "contradiction" is not fooling anyone.

Everyone here understands exactly what you are saying, and you are not fooling anyone with these pathetic evasions of the truth.

He is still a human being, not a robot. It doesn't make him blameless, but it also doesn't make him a monster, or the dead guy innocent of anything other than "driving while black" as some on here have claimed.

Everyone is a human being. Travyon Martin was a human being but that didn't stop you and others from viciously and mercilessly slandering him. No one here is making the officer into a monster. On the otherhand, you are once again denigrating the victim and his family. So please, you are not fooling anyone here.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They both escalated.

Only one of them did something that would likely kill someone.

Sure, it would have been better if the officer let go and called in a fleeing suspect. By that same token, DuBose should have let go off the door, exited the vehicle and let himself be arrested for driving with a suspended DL.

Well yeah. Of course. It'd been better if DuBose didn't break any laws.

Instead, he got himself killed.

Driving off shouldn't be a capital crime.

Both men made mistakes, and both have or will suffer the consequences.

Made mistakes? Killing a man is not a mistake. Driving off is not a mistake. Both committed crimes. One of those is treated more seriously than the other.

 

[atrib]

They both escalated. Sure, it would have been better if the officer let go and called in a fleeing suspect. By that same token, DuBose should have let go off the door, exited the vehicle and let himself be arrested for driving with a suspended DL. Instead, he got himself killed. Both men made mistakes, and both have or will suffer the consequences.

Except for the little fact that the black guy got killed as a consequence of driving without a license. But that's ok because actions like those have consequences including death by cop. Especially if you happen to be black.

 

[ksen]

Driving with driver's licence suspended indefinitely and without front license plate.
But no, playing the race card is good too.

Are University Police supposed to pull over for a license plate infraction?

I don't know about Cincinnati but in Orlando the UCF cops are real cops and can pull you over for driving infractions.

 

[atrib]

Everyone is a human being. Travyon Martin was a human being but that didn't stop you and others from viciously and mercilessly slandering him. No one here is making the officer into a monster. On the otherhand, you are once again denigrating the victim and his family. So please, you are not fooling anyone here.

I think Derec does this because he wants to draw our attention away from the actions of the police officer (or the wannabe police officer in the Martin killing). Blame the victim and avoid placing any responsibility on the cop. He doesn't appear to understand that the police should not be in the business of killing people over traffic offenses (or for being black and therefore looking suspicious by default).

 

[Derec]

I think Derec does this because he wants to draw our attention away from the actions of the police officer (or the wannabe police officer in the Martin killing). Blame the victim and avoid placing any responsibility on the cop. He doesn't appear to understand that the police should not be in the business of killing people over traffic offenses (or for being black and therefore looking suspicious by default).

No, I am not trying to "avoid placing any responsibility on the cop". You are projecting because you are trying to avoid placing any responsibility on DuBose, claiming that he was only "driving while black".

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I think Derec does this because he wants to draw our attention away from the actions of the police officer (or the wannabe police officer in the Martin killing). Blame the victim and avoid placing any responsibility on the cop. He doesn't appear to understand that the police should not be in the business of killing people over traffic offenses (or for being black and therefore looking suspicious by default).

No, I am not trying to "avoid placing any responsibility on the cop". You are projecting because you are trying to avoid placing any responsibility on DuBose, claiming that he was only "driving while black".

I think Derec is right. He isn't trying to say the officer didn't make a mistake. What Derec is guilty of is false equivalence... ie... they (officer / dead guy) both made mistakes. Derec seems to equate driving off getting you shot and killed with jumping into a lake after being told there were alligators.

 

[Toni]

No, I am not trying to "avoid placing any responsibility on the cop". You are projecting because you are trying to avoid placing any responsibility on DuBose, claiming that he was only "driving while black".

I think Derec is right. He isn't trying to say the officer didn't make a mistake. What Derec is guilty of is false equivalence... ie... they (officer / dead guy) both made mistakes. Derec seems to equate driving off getting you shot and killed with jumping into a lake after being told there were alligators.

Thank heavens that doesn't carry the death penalty.

 

[ksen]

No, I am not trying to "avoid placing any responsibility on the cop".

Instead, he got himself killed.

Both men made mistakes

"mistakes" lol

 

[Shadowy Man]

Both men made mistakes

"mistakes" lol

The driver's "mistake" was not realizing that anything short of subservience to a police officer is likely to get him killed, regardless of the severity of the crime he may have committed or suspected to have committed. Given the current climate between the black community and police officers in this country it was clearly negligent on his part not to have known this.

 

[arkirk]

Did DuBose have a cigarette in the car? If so, he could have thrown it at the cop and killed him. A clear case of self-defence and the charges should be dropped against the officer.

Yeah, because telling someone to put out a cigarette is the same as shooting them. Or were trying to mock the people who do equate the two and thus blame that cop for the women who hung herself?

Were you there? How do you know so much about these cases? According to you a cop can do no wrong. You don't seem to realize that they can lie and cheat to save their skin when they do something cowardly.

 

[arkirk]

"mistakes" lol

The driver's "mistake" was not realizing that anything short of subservience to a police officer is likely to get him killed, regardless of the severity of the crime he may have committed or suspected to have committed. Given the current climate between the black community and police officers in this country it was clearly negligent on his part not to have known this.

The police do not have the "right" to create this so called "climate." The cop broke the law. There are laws regarding when and how an officer can use deadly force. He went over the line and his crime is MURDER.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Yeah. Driving while black. That's a behavior, right?

Driving with driver's licence suspended

So he has an "indefinitely suspended license", 13 to 20 kids and a half dozen "baby mommas"

I didn't realize YOU had the inside scoop in Sam Dubose' personal life. You're, like, the Thug Whisperer or something.

I think Derec does this because he wants to draw our attention away from the actions of the police officer (or the wannabe police officer in the Martin killing). Blame the victim and avoid placing any responsibility on the cop. He doesn't appear to understand that the police should not be in the business of killing people over traffic offenses (or for being black and therefore looking suspicious by default).

No, I am not trying to "avoid placing any responsibility on the cop"

Really?

So how many times has Tensing been written up or otherwise disciplined for violating department policy? What's his criminal history?

What were his SAT scores in high school? How clean is his driving record? How clean is his SERVICE record?

How many children "baby mommas" is Tensing "estimated" to have?

You seem to have gone to some elaborate lengths to dig up dirt on Dubose. Why are you not equally interested in the man who killed him?