Delivering For FedEx While Black

[Gun Nut]

What followed was a road-rage-esque pursuit that ended with the father and son eventually having an oh shit moment as they realized what they were doing, and surrendered themselves to Police.

This must be a record. First time I heard an oh-shit moment last a whole week.

Did that happen?

A week between the oh-shit moment and surrendering to the cops, knowing just how deep in shit they are, isn't the same thing.
Tom

This. It took them a while to figure out how deep they had stepped into the shit.

I….just have an extremely difficult time believing that anyone does not immediately realize that pursuing someone in a motor vehicle while discharging weapons at that person/vehicle is unwise and illegal.

Ithink its most likely that there was two oh shit moments... the initial, :what the fuck are we doing" one, and then the "we better surrender to the police" one when they realized that was the path to least damage to themselves.

 

[Gun Nut]

Perhaps in the future, we could initially call threads like this, "Delivering for FedEx While Human" until we get more detailed info on the event. If it turns out to be racially motivated, then the mods could rename it, "Delivering for FedEx While Black" and then have a whole 'nother level of conversation about it.

Here's the thing.
"Assholish dudes escalate unprofessional delivery into road rage incident" wouldn't be as clicky as adding racist motivation. I'm confident it wouldn't have been more than a blip in local news, not a national event with it's own IIDB thread.
Tom

Yep. Apparently, it seems impossible for people to accept that whenever a white person and a black person get into some sort of conflict, it may not be race related. I wonder if we'll ever see the day when a black guy and a white guy can go at each other and we can attribute it to one or both of them being your basic knuckleheads and/or bullies.

When I lived in NY, that was mostly the case... the ratio of black to white was close enough for random instances between black and white to be about as fre

 

[Gospel]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

 

[Toni]

Maybe they just sobered up.

 

[TomC]

Maybe they just sobered up.

All too possible.
One of the little details is that this idiocy started about 7:30 pm.
Driver is at the end of his run, half hour late getting home, been holding a pee for an hour. The Cases have had a couple of beers, don't like how Driver handled their package, and want him to wait while they check it for damage.

The rest, as they say, is history.
I dunno.
Tom

 

[TomC]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

They became criminals when they fired the first shot( if not before).
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

They became criminals when they fired the first shot( if not before).
Tom

Most likely when they grabbed a weapon was the start of conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[Toni]

Maybe they just sobered up.

All too possible.
One of the little details is that this idiocy started about 7:30 pm.
Driver is at the end of his run, half hour late getting home, been holding a pee for an hour. The Cases have had a couple of beers, don't like how Driver handled their package, and want him to wait while they check it for damage.

The rest, as they say, is history.
I dunno.
Tom

Driver was probably behind schedule as all delivery drivers/mail carriers in my area are being overburdened. We used to reliably get our mail mid-afternoon. Now we never know when it will come and have been leaving our porch light (LED so energy efficient) overnight to make it easier for them. From what I hear, this is true all over—which is probably why the driver was not in a FedEx truck.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

They probably told themselves if they shot at a person and HE didn't report it, it confirms that they were shooting at a fleeing criminal.

When the cops told them, 'Hey, that guy you shot at? He called us, and, well...." THAT was their Oh Shit moment.

 

[Gospel]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

They became criminals when they fired the first shot( if not before).
Tom

I'll wait for Derec to post their background check before I agree.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

They probably told themselves if they shot at a person and HE didn't report it, it confirms that they were shooting at a fleeing criminal.

When the cops told them, 'Hey, that guy you shot at? He called us, and, well...." THAT was their Oh Shit moment.

My interest is what the communication between the Police and the Cases was post shooting and pre-"surrender".

 

[laughing dog]

I'm more interested in the lethargy of the police. One would think that if someones are shooting a delivery people (especially when they are driving away), that the police would think that represents a possible ongoing danger to the general public.

 

[TomC]

My interest is what the communication between the Police and the Cases was post shooting and pre-"surrender".

I'm more interested in the lethargy of the police. One would think that if someones are shooting a delivery people (especially when they are driving away), that the police would think that represents a possible ongoing danger to the general public.

Maybe the Cases oh-shit moment included lawyering up and by the time the cops had any real information from FedEx they'd already gotten a call from a law firm negotiating the surrender.
I dunno.
Tom

 

[Toni]

I would be astonished if the police were not very familiar with the Case family.

 

[Politesse]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

Or "thugs", as they are often called colloquially.

Interesting that they were released on bond the same day they were arrested. That must really offend their conservative values!

 

[Gospel]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

Or "thugs", as they are often called colloquially.

Interesting that they were released on bond the same day they were arrested. That must really offend their conservative values!

Gotta have been a libtardl prosecutor!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

My interest is what the communication between the Police and the Cases was post shooting and pre-"surrender".

I'm more interested in the lethargy of the police. One would think that if someones are shooting a delivery people (especially when they are driving away), that the police would think that represents a possible ongoing danger to the general public.

Maybe the Cases oh-shit moment included lawyering up and by the time the cops had any real information from FedEx they'd already gotten a call from a law firm negotiating the surrender.
I dunno.
Tom

Well, keep throwing stuff at the wall, something will stick eventually.

 

[Politesse]

I'm actually pretty worried about the Cases, now that they have a "violent criminal record" it is now legal for the police to shoot them to death on a routine traffic stop.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I can't help but think that a person who shoots at somebody then doesn't report it to the police is a criminal. I mean, that's what criminals do right?

Or "thugs", as they are often called colloquially.

Interesting that they were released on bond the same day they were arrested. That must really offend their conservative values!

Well, I bet their guns were confiscated as part of the bond release. I'm so certain that is the case. No really, I'm not joking.

Meanwhile in an identical (hypothetical) case with a black shooter, he is withheld the right to bail and has murder charges on him, this is also after SWAT arrested him the same night of the shooting.

I hadn't read this part.

Bullet holes and punctured packages were found in Gibson’s delivery van and, later, a shell casing. Eight days later the Cases were charged and allowed to turn themselves in to Brookhaven Police.

I hadn't realized they did in fact hit the truck. Why in the heck aren't they up on attempted manslaughter charges?!

 

[TomC]

Well, keep throwing stuff at the wall, something will stick eventually.

At least I'm not just throwing the same stuff hoping it will stick this time.
Tom