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This thread is not about Trump, but about Dem Veep pick. Stop derailing!
My bad, I thought this was a gaslighting thread based on your posts.This thread is not about Trump, but about Dem Veep pick. Stop derailing!
You might as well give up. I don't think they can help it. Its like Captain Ahab and the white whale. Or Capt Kirk and Khan. Hey...maybe woke Hollywood (if they survive) will make a new Star Trek movie with AI where the crew goes back in time to the 2000's to take on Trump.This thread is not about Trump, but about Dem Veep pick. Stop derailing!
You might as well give up. I don't think they can help it. Its like Captain Ahab and the white whale. Or Capt Kirk and Khan. Hey...maybe woke Hollywood (if they survive) will make a new Star Trek movie with AI where the crew goes back in time to the 2000's to take on Trump.This thread is not about Trump, but about Dem Veep pick. Stop derailing!
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Who among us has never made a mistake? Why are so many of your posts so negative? Why not look at a person's entire life and the contributions they've made, instead of dwelling on a few mistakes they may have made over the course of their lives. When I think of Walz, I think of a good man who dedicated his life to public service, as a teacher, as a member of the military, and as an elected official. He seems to be an excellent father and husband, a person who cares about others and who has a lot of wisdom based on his experience and what he has learned from his mistakes. I guess I don't understand your negativity, especially when it comes to someone as valued by his family and community as Walz obviously his. Have you never made a mistake in your life? I'm pretty sure, just like the rest of us, you have. I did a lot of dumb, risky things when I was younger. I will admit that, and I will also try to see humor in some of the stupid things I did, since I survived and luckily never harmed anyone.The point is that, just like his new boss, Walz shows poor judgment. He showed poor judgment when he drove plastered, he showed poor judgment when he lied about it when running for Congress. This is just another instance of him exhibiting very poor judgment.Of course, it is most unlikely that Walz was aware of the 2015 post or the controversy surrounding it. He was simply praising a Muslim host at an event he was attending, and he thought the imam's sermon was good. There is nothing in Walz's background to suggest he has sympathy for antisemitic causes or feels solidarity with Hamas. That is all just part of a partisan smear campaign that has been resurrected from Republican attacks on his gubernatorial run.
The point is that, just like his new boss, Walz shows poor judgment. He showed poor judgment when he drove plastered, he showed poor judgment when he lied about it when running for Congress. This is just another instance of him exhibiting very poor judgment.Of course, it is most unlikely that Walz was aware of the 2015 post or the controversy surrounding it. He was simply praising a Muslim host at an event he was attending, and he thought the imam's sermon was good. There is nothing in Walz's background to suggest he has sympathy for antisemitic causes or feels solidarity with Hamas. That is all just part of a partisan smear campaign that has been resurrected from Republican attacks on his gubernatorial run.
He also handled the pandemic pretty well, with his state suffering far fewer deaths than projected and the economy recovering quickly.The point is that, just like his new boss, Walz shows poor judgment. He showed poor judgment when he drove plastered, he showed poor judgment when he lied about it when running for Congress. This is just another instance of him exhibiting very poor judgment.Of course, it is most unlikely that Walz was aware of the 2015 post or the controversy surrounding it. He was simply praising a Muslim host at an event he was attending, and he thought the imam's sermon was good. There is nothing in Walz's background to suggest he has sympathy for antisemitic causes or feels solidarity with Hamas. That is all just part of a partisan smear campaign that has been resurrected from Republican attacks on his gubernatorial run.
Rubbish. There is no pattern of poor judgement, just a few cases of bad or mistaken decisions in a life full of good and beneficial ones. If you are looking for a pattern of bad judgments, focus on the pasts of the criminal felon Donald Trump and JD Vance, Mr. "cat Lady". Walz had a distinguished record of service in the National Guard, and he did not lie about the rank he held until the day of his retirement. He handled the Minnesota riot as well as any governor could, given the tools he had and his experience in office. His praise for the Imam did not make him antisemitic or pro-terrorist, despite your efforts to hype the Republican spin from his old campaign for governor. Your arguments against him and Harris are really flimsy.
Have you heard about the Never Walz Group? They bought booth space at the MN state fair to hand out anti-Walz stuff. What they failed to do is buy the domain, so someone else did.
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https://www.neverwalz.com
Well, Tucker would know a creeper......
A number of cases of poor decisions over many years that, yes, do form a pattern.Rubbish. There is no pattern of poor judgement, just a few cases of bad or mistaken decisions in a life full of good and beneficial ones.
Why? This is not a thread about them, but about the "Dem VP pic[sic]". There is plenty written about Trump and Vance elsewhere.If you are looking for a pattern of bad judgments, focus on the pasts of the criminal felon Donald Trump and JD Vance, Mr. "cat Lady".
No? Didn't he say that he was a rank above which he qualified for?Walz had a distinguished record of service in the National Guard, and he did not lie about the rank he held until the day of his retirement.
Riots that caused billions in property damage and several deaths. Extremists were allowed to occupy territory for over a year in one place, and for weeks in another in 2021. So no, he did not handle it well.He handled the Minnesota riot as well as any governor could, given the tools he had and his experience in office.
Not personally, no, but palling around with extremist, Hitler-supporting imam shows poor judgment. That's Walz in a nutshell. Poor judgment. Just like his boss.His praise for the Imam did not make him antisemitic or pro-terrorist,
They are not.arguments against him and Harris are really flimsy.
I for one have not driven drunk. And note, to get caught with a DUI, he most likely has driven many times in similar state of inebriation. Which was 0.128% when measured, but obviously higher when he was stopped and even higher than that when he started driving. >0.15% surely.Who among us has never made a mistake?
I guess part of my opposition to Walz is that Shapiro was done dirty.Why are so many of your posts so negative? Why not look at a person's entire life and the contributions they've made, instead of dwelling on a few mistakes they may have made over the course of their lives.
None as serious as his. And I am not running for Veep.Have you never made a mistake in your life?
Compare Walz with others who were in the running for Kami's running mate. Shapiro, Kelly, Basheer etc. None had "obvious criminal behavior, lies" and other epithets you are throwing around here. And all of them, esp. Shapiro would have been a better choice.If we look at some of the other people who are candidates or are in office, we often see obvious criminal like behavior, lies, disregard for others, hypocrisy, incompetence etc. while never admitting they are wrong.
He lied about his DUI when he ran for Congress.I'm not going to worry about a good person who may have used bad judgement a few times in the past, and has admitted he's been wrong at times.
And you do not think Shapiro is mature enough?It takes a mature adult to do that. I prefer to vote for people who are mature and have gained wisdom via their experiences in life, both positive and negative. Just sayin'.
Stable Time LoopLet's hope they arrive soon. It's getting close to the election. Or do you think maybe that kid on the roof was their doing?
Who is supposed to be gaslighting whom? And do you even know what that term means?My bad, I thought this was a gaslighting thread based on your posts.
I for one have not driven drunk. And note, to get caught with a DUI, he most likely has driven many times in similar state of inebriation. Which was 0.128% when measured, but obviously higher when he was stopped and even higher than that when he started driving. >0.15% surely.Who among us has never made a mistake?
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He is also running for 2nd position in land, one heartbeat away from presidency. Excuse me if I have higher standards for him that I would for some random barfly.
He is also running for 2nd position in land, one heartbeat away from presidency. Excuse me if I have higher standards for him that I would for some random barfly.
Why? This is a thread about Dems' choice for vice presidential candidate. Walz should be compared with the people who were passed over - specifically those on the top of the short list: Shapiro and Kelly.Juxtapose that with Republicans when caught out on something. Specifically, the man at the top of the ticket.
Irrelevant to this thread, but that allegation is bullshit, no matter the civil judgment. EJC is a nutburger who most likely lifted the scenario from the Law and Order:SVU episode with Kevin Pollack.Around the same time that Walz was driving under the influence, Trump cornered a woman he desired in a dressing room of a New York department store and sexually assaulted her. There's no "alleged" about it, in case you're wondering. A jury of his peers unanimously found that he did indeed sexually assault her, and arrived at their decision in under 3 hours.
He lied about the DUI when he was running for Congress.Rather than do as Walz has done and take responsibility for his actions,
"Not touching a drop again" does not fill me with confidence. It shows a weak man, one that doesn't trust himself to drink responsibly. I do not have to lay off alcohol completely to know not to drive drunk. Btw, Trump is also a teetotaler.Of course, that happened some 30 years ago, and by all accounts he completely reformed and hasn’t touched a drop again.
I don't.That’s why you are supporting [Trump]
"Done dirty"? Sounds like an exaggeration. Shapiro checked a number of boxes and had EV cred. Walz checked a number of boxes and had wider EV cred.
I guess part of my opposition to Walz is that Shapiro was done dirty.Why are so many of your posts so negative? Why not look at a person's entire life and the contributions they've made, instead of dwelling on a few mistakes they may have made over the course of their lives.
Progressives sound alarm as Shapiro VP stock rises
That article doesn't support your claim. Based on the tea leaves, it looked like it was going to be Shapiro whose stock rose a bit out of no where. Much like Walz's did. But they went with the Midwest flair which might have wider electoral benefits.Harris caved to the far left that was opposed to Shapiro and also advocated for Walz.
For fuck sakes, most people don't even know who Walz was, much less "Fauxgressives". If he was so popular among "fauxgressives" why wasn't he on the list?He wasn't on the short list, he wasn't even in the poll in this thread. He was picked because a) fauxgressives like him and b) because his "weird" quip fits well into the substance -free "vibes and memes" campaign Kamala has been running so far. Weird. Kamala is brat. Coconut trees. Is that really what the Democratic Party is now?
Compare Walz with others who were in the running for Kami's running mate. Shapiro, Kelly, Basheer etc. None had "obvious criminal behavior, lies" and other epithets you are throwing around here. And all of them, esp. Shapiro would have been a better choice.If we look at some of the other people who are candidates or are in office, we often see obvious criminal like behavior, lies, disregard for others, hypocrisy, incompetence etc. while never admitting they are wrong.
Walz is also the most left-wing of those picks. That signals that Harris-Walz ticket is not interested in moving to the center. And the few policy proposals she announced - price controls, even more child tax credits than Biden, taxing unrealized capital gains etc. are from the Left's wish list.