lpetrich
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Derec, what do you think is the real story behind those suspiciously low underpasses?
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Derec
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Obviously there to keep Kareem Abu-Jamal, Shaq and other tall black NBA players from walking under them. Duh!
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In the following list I've taken the liberty of crossing out people who would have zero chance in the general election. (I've used a lighter color of strike-out on Kamala, whose defeat isn't quite certain.) Biden and Klobuchar should probably be crossed out as well.
In other words, let's hope the Ds build up and nominate a smart Governor.
I've also reversed the list order. Websites use a "click-bait" ordering, but we needn't emulate them.
WOW!
One study guesses Obama to be one of only four U.S. Presidents since John Quincy Adams to have a 155+ IQ. Other studies give him a lesser estimate but still acknowledge that he is one of the smartest men to serve as POTUS. I love AOC but comparing her to Obama?? Whoever came up with that needs to have his or her dosages adjusted.
Derec makes several key points. That partisan Ds are blindered to these obvious points does not bode well.
In other words, let's hope the Ds build up and nominate a smart Governor.
I've also reversed the list order. Websites use a "click-bait" ordering, but we needn't emulate them.
WOW! One study guesses Obama to be one of only four U.S. Presidents since John Quincy Adams to have a 155+ IQ. Other studies give him a lesser estimate but still acknowledge that he is one of the smartest men to serve as POTUS. I love AOC but comparing her to Obama?? Whoever came up with that needs to have his or her dosages adjusted.
Derec makes several key points. That partisan Ds are blindered to these obvious points does not bode well.
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None of the moderates will be willing to run against Biden, none of the progressives have a chance, and Biden's signalling is clear as day, so I don't see much point in speculating about alternative candidates. The "other side" is in a similar situation. We will be offered no novel choices in 2024, unless Biden and/or Trump fall off a cliff or get thrown in jail before then. I know that some people drink Pepsi and some people drink Coke, but as the wacky morning DJ says, democracy's a joke.
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I'm quite happy with Biden.
Him putting one over on Mitch McTurtle makes me even happier.
Him putting one over on Mitch McTurtle makes me even happier.
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I agree with you. Biden has had a very good couple months. If the US could get out of the soft recession that we are experiencing now, he will beat Trump.
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I want to see Trump vs AOC.
I want to see her taunt him mercilessly for his failures, his cowardly unwillingness to debate with rules, for his criminal career, for his tiny mushroom dick, his hair (all eight for them), his low IQ, his semi-literacy, his ignorance…
I could see several hour long standup routines that would contain less repetition than any three minute segment of Trump’s schtick.
ETA: Katie Porter would be the best President IMO. But that kind of stuff doesn’t much matter any more.
I want to see her taunt him mercilessly for his failures, his cowardly unwillingness to debate with rules, for his criminal career, for his tiny mushroom dick, his hair (all eight for them), his low IQ, his semi-literacy, his ignorance…
I could see several hour long standup routines that would contain less repetition than any three minute segment of Trump’s schtick.
ETA: Katie Porter would be the best President IMO. But that kind of stuff doesn’t much matter any more.
lpetrich
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To do what John Fetterman is doing to Mehmet Oz? Yes. 
AOC would do all that, but would it sway those who would continue to support him even if he took a shit in public during the debate, those willing to do anything and everything to tilt the board in his favor, legal or not, such as not certifying results, to allow him to win?
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Yeah, he’s great, probably better than Katie Porter would be. Approval rating in the 30s tells you how much being a good President matters.
Cheerful Charlie
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Mainly because Porter is expected to win election in the Senate as ailing Diane Feinstein retires. Porter's lane is to become an activist Senator until she is 80.
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I’d love to see Feinstein retire and Porter would be wonderful to replace her. If that is where she wants to be, she’d be wonderfully effective. But she’d be wonderfully effective at any position she aims for. I wish her the very best.
OTOH, I hate to see anyone, except perhaps grandparents relegated to holding any position than grand parenting until they are 80–and those wonderful grandparents—80 years is not nearly enough
OTOH, I hate to see anyone, except perhaps grandparents relegated to holding any position than grand parenting until they are 80–and those wonderful grandparents—80 years is not nearly enough
I'm over 80 and I would hate for me to President
The older I get, the more skeptical I am of the Great Man Theory. It's not about the person, it's about the team they can bring to the table.
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I'm sorry I know this is a complete aside, but... there are people alive who actually think the great man theory is... even remotely viable?
I can't even wrap my head around that, heh.
Americans vote for a President every once in a while. I don't know what to say but what Presidents are to blame for (if they are Demonrats) is pretty comprehensive.
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I like AOC and am glad that she's in my party. However, she isn't a coalition builder. I just don't think that a charismatic candidate without coalition ability can win in the democratic party (that is possible in the republican party BTW). D's are just too large of a tent, too many diverse opinions, too easily offended. I really like Stacey Abrahms. She is very charismatic. But seems to be coalition builder for sure. If she can win governorship in Georgia, she could win any national office.
Harry Bosch
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Well, I like Biden. Is he the greatest of all time, no. He's not super charismatic. But he's steady, predictable, reliable and a coalition builder. The exact opposite of Trump. But we need new younger blood in my opinion. I'll check out Porter.
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That's a big if. She is trailing right now behind Kemp, who has incumbency on his side. And don't let 2020 fool you, Georgia is still more red than blue.
If Abrams wins, she needs to show her chops. Until now, she has only been a state rep in an ultra-safe district where Republicans do not even put up a candidate. So she is out for 2024. But if she wins this year, and does well in office, 2028 is a possibility. At least as running mate.
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Derec
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It is certainly as viable as the opposing "trends and forces" theory - which is to say that neither is very viable by itself, but both are very much viable as partial explanations.
Had Hitler been shot and killed in WWI, WWII would have looked very different, if it would happen at all. Some fascist government probably would have gained power (trends and forces) but the way Germany was led by Hitler played a big role in how history unfolded. Same goes for Allied leadership. FDR, Churchill, Stalin. All strong personalities that affected how Allies conducted the war for better or for worse. Example Stalin: his purge of his general corps as well as his unwillingness to believe Hitler would attack cost USSR a lot and helped Germany advance more than they otherwise would have.
Or let's look at something closer in history. A few 100 votes decided the 2000 elections. A small wrinkle, no butterfly ballot, a less successful Nader campaign, and Al Gore would have been the 43rd president. Obviously his response to 9/11 or to other policy matters like climate change would have been very different and thus the history of the 21st century would have unfolded differently. Because of who the person is, with same underlying trends and forces.