Do we have any Trump supporters here?

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If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)


Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.

Another Australian takes this view too.

John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump

I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.

(sigh) Trump has stated that he will develop a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Period. You think that can be accomplished without massive soldiers on the ground?? You have been duped by a conman. Trump is very militaristic. He favored the Iraq invasion. Trump also favored removing Mommar from power. Either way you slice it, Trump is full of shit:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/

Trump has also said that he will take the Iraq oil. To the victor goes the spoils. He has stated this many times. How do you think this will happen?

Additionally...On the lying front, it is absurd to suggest Hillary is the bigger liar. It is easier to count the times Trump isn't bullshitting. Sure Hillary lies at times, most politicos do, but she doesn't take it to the theater of the absurd, with thousands of American Muslims cheering at the fall of the twin towers, or the Obama birther fairy tale, or the hundreds of others.

Trump has also said he would follow the generals, and put 20,000 - 30,000 soldiers on the ground against ISIS. Trump has suggested he would violate the integrity of another dozen or so nations by murdering the families of terrorists. I can see only 2 plausible routes to this murderous end: (1) A greatly expanded drone war; or (2) Renegade death squads secretly invading those countries to carry out his authoritarian fantasy.

Trump is more dangerous as no one knows just where the BS ends and reality begins. But his authoritarian streak is quite evident. Hillary will continue the US neocon over reach and militarism, but in predictable ways. She will be at least restrained by a level of common sense and expectations. If Trump had been President at the height of our tension with Russia over Syria, he could have easily pushed the Air Force generals into a very confrontational position against the Russian fighters/bombers operating there. No Congress would have been able to slow him down fast enough to prevent a royal fuck up over Syrian skies.

 

[jonatha]

If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)

If the American presidential election winds up with Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump, and my passport is confiscated, and I’m somehow FORCED to choose one or the other, or I’m PAID to do so, paid well … I would vote for Trump.

My main concern is foreign policy. American foreign policy is the greatest threat to world peace, prosperity, and the environment. And when it comes to foreign policy, Hillary Clinton is an unholy disaster.

Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.

Another Australian takes this view too.

John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump

I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.

The Australians probably figure they're safe, since Trump couldn't find them on a map if you colored the continent fluorescent orange....

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)


Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.

Another Australian takes this view too.

John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump

I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.

The Australians probably figure they're safe, since Trump couldn't find them on a map if you colored the continent fluorescent orange....

Trump would require all maps to be non-glossy, so he would just stare at his reflection.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)


Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.

Another Australian takes this view too.

John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump

I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.

(sigh) Trump has stated that he will develop a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Period. You think that can be accomplished without massive soldiers on the ground?? You have been duped by a conman. Trump is very militaristic. He favored the Iraq invasion. Trump also favored removing Mommar from power. Either way you slice it, Trump is full of shit:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/

Trump has also said that he will take the Iraq oil. To the victor goes the spoils. He has stated this many times. How do you think this will happen?

Some Aussies seem to have no idea:

• how completely uneducated on foreign policy Trump
• has tremendously shitty temperament not suited for dealing with diplomacy
• how Trump wouldn't be in charge and we don't know who would be in charge

George W. Bush was a lightweight, but looks like his father with foreign policy compared to Trump. Shit went down terribly when the President wasn't in charge of his own Foreign Policy under W. What exactly makes people think it'd go better with a guy who has even less control (or even care)?

 

[Rhea]

I stare, slack-jawed in disbelief, at anyone who still says they think Trump will NOT be a global disaster.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I stare, slack-jawed in disbelief, at anyone who still says they think Trump will NOT be a global disaster.

Right? In the town hall style meeting the other day Trump stated that he would take the oil. When Matt Lauer asked how he would do that, he said he would "leave people behind" to take "certain areas" and hold them. So now we're talking about staying in a sovereign nation, carving out areas of that nation for ourselves, guarding it and creating a perimeter, bases to to do so, and then what? Using billions in tax payer money to invest in the infrastructure necessary to finally start getting some oil out to of the ground, while we try to defend that oil from people having a propensity for suicide style attacks?

Fucking insane. Not to mention we are not permitted by our own laws to pillage, etc.

 

[Playball40]

I stare, slack-jawed in disbelief, at anyone who still says they think Trump will NOT be a global disaster.

Right? In the town hall style meeting the other day Trump stated that he would take the oil. When Matt Lauer asked how he would do that, he said he would "leave people behind" to take "certain areas" and hold them. So now we're talking about staying in a sovereign nation, carving out areas of that nation for ourselves, guarding it and creating a perimeter, bases to to do so, and then what? Using billions in tax payer money to invest in the infrastructure necessary to finally start getting some oil out to of the ground, while we try to defend that oil from people having a propensity for suicide style attacks?

Fucking insane. Not to mention we are not permitted by our own laws to pillage, etc.

And this type of move is exactly what started Al Qaeda. Osama Bin Laden was pissed off when the US wouldn't leave Saudi Arabia after Desert Storm. But hey, let's just do it again!

 

[Harry Bosch]

(sigh) Trump has stated that he will develop a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Period. You think that can be accomplished without massive soldiers on the ground?? You have been duped by a conman. Trump is very militaristic. He favored the Iraq invasion. Trump also favored removing Mommar from power. Either way you slice it, Trump is full of shit:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/

Trump has also said that he will take the Iraq oil. To the victor goes the spoils. He has stated this many times. How do you think this will happen?

Some Aussies seem to have no idea:

• how completely uneducated on foreign policy Trump
• has tremendously shitty temperament not suited for dealing with diplomacy
• how Trump wouldn't be in charge and we don't know who would be in charge

George W. Bush was a lightweight, but looks like his father with foreign policy compared to Trump. Shit went down terribly when the President wasn't in charge of his own Foreign Policy under W. What exactly makes people think it'd go better with a guy who has even less control (or even care)?

Trump has duped many Americans as well.

 

[Will Wiley]

Some Aussies seem to have no idea:

• how completely uneducated on foreign policy Trump
• has tremendously shitty temperament not suited for dealing with diplomacy

• 
  
  Trump would be far more diplomatic than Hillary Clinton. With Russia for a start.
  
  Hillary Clinton has,
  1.Compared Putin To Hitler
  2. Joked that Putin has no soul.
  
  Anyone who thinks she is more diplomatic than Trump is a moron.
  
  The arrogance of America and it's idiotic voters is astounding. They imagine that their President can go around making such stupid remarks amd it's perfectly ok..
  
  What fantasy world do you live in?
  
  I look forward to another round of idiotic posts by those who think Hillary Clinton is somehow suited to be Presdident when she says stupid arrogant things like she did about Putin.

 

[Will Wiley]

I stare, slack-jawed in disbelief, at anyone who still says they think Trump will NOT be a global disaster.

As usual you are having comprehension problems.

Trump will be bad. Hillary will be worse

 

[untermensche]

Some Aussies seem to have no idea:

• how completely uneducated on foreign policy Trump
• has tremendously shitty temperament not suited for dealing with diplomacy

• 
  
  Trump would be far more diplomatic than Hillary Clinton. With Russia for a start.
  
  Hillary Clinton has,
  1.Compared Putin To Hitler
  2. Joked that Putin has no soul.
  
  Anyone who thinks she is more diplomatic than Trump is a moron.
  
  The arrogance of America and it's idiotic voters is astounding. They imagine that their President can go around making such stupid remarks amd it's perfectly ok..
  
  What fantasy world do you live in?
  
  I look forward to another round of idiotic posts by those who think Hillary Clinton is somehow suited to be Presdident when she says stupid arrogant things like she did about Putin.

• 
  
  Have you ever read how Gary Kasparov describes Putin?
  
  Trump admires a strongman.
  
  He is dangerous.

 

[Will Wiley]

Trump would be far more diplomatic than Hillary Clinton. With Russia for a start.

Hillary Clinton has,
1.Compared Putin To Hitler
2. Joked that Putin has no soul.

Anyone who thinks she is more diplomatic than Trump is a moron.

The arrogance of America and it's idiotic voters is astounding. They imagine that their President can go around making such stupid remarks amd it's perfectly ok..

What fantasy world do you live in?

I look forward to another round of idiotic posts by those who think Hillary Clinton is somehow suited to be Presdident when she says stupid arrogant things like she did about Putin.

Have you ever read how Gary Kasparov describes Putin?

Trump admires a strongman.

He is dangerous.

Really? How many dead are at the feet of Hillary Clinton? Yet you think trump is the dangerous one??

 

[untermensche]

Have you ever read how Gary Kasparov describes Putin?

Trump admires a strongman.

He is dangerous.

Really? How many dead are at the feet of Hillary Clinton?

Again, have you read what Gary Kasparov has said about Putin?

Yet you think trump is the dangerous one??

He's a loose cannon who is seemingly ignorant about everything except real estate.

There is no way to know what he will do.

All we know is he has a fondness for a Russian strongman who's political enemies are assassinated on the street.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Have you ever read how Gary Kasparov describes Putin?

Trump admires a strongman.

He is dangerous.

Really? How many dead are at the feet of Hillary Clinton? Yet you think trump is the dangerous one??

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Holy shit you finally got me. You're fiftieth posting of the above cartoon got me. Yes, HRC is Hitler reincarnate! I shudder thinking that you might find a second image to post in the future!!

 

[Elixir]

All we know is he has a fondness for a Russian strongman who's political enemies are assassinated on the street.

Of course he does. Putin's is the model he wants to emulate. Trumples would love to murder all his political opponents, make the media property of the State and run roughshod over the rest of the world.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Really? How many dead are at the feet of Hillary Clinton? Yet you think trump is the dangerous one??

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Holy shit you finally got me. You're fiftieth posting of the above cartoon got me. Yes, HRC is Hitler reincarnate! I shudder thinking that you might find a second image to post in the future!!

Yeah, how many dead at the feet of Clinton? Well Rumsfeld was over 100,000 dead and a million displaced in Iraq. So Clinton, no where even close.

 

[Elixir]

Holy shit you finally got me. You're fiftieth posting of the above cartoon got me. Yes, HRC is Hitler reincarnate! I shudder thinking that you might find a second image to post in the future!!

Yeah, how many dead at the feet of Clinton? Well Rumsfeld was over 100,000 dead and a million displaced in Iraq. So Clinton, no where even close.

True, but - Rummy was part of the political McStablishment, unlike Trump. So Trumples will make sure nobody gets hurt, even when he starts popping off nukes like firecrackers.

 

[Will Wiley]

All we know is he has a fondness for a Russian strongman who's political enemies are assassinated on the street.

Of course he does. Putin's is the model he wants to emulate. Trumples would love to murder all his political opponents, make the media property of the State and run roughshod over the rest of the world.

Do you have any evidence Putin murdered any political opponents?
Unbacked allegation from Fox News don't count

 

[Elixir]

Do you have any evidence Putin murdered any political opponents?

There's a lot of evidence. No proof of course - if you're Putin, it's easy to "disappear" anyone who might provide any such thing. And the 38 murdered journalists aren't talking...

Unbacked allegation from Fox News don't count

I don't watch Faux News.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Of course he does. Putin's is the model he wants to emulate. Trumples would love to murder all his political opponents, make the media property of the State and run roughshod over the rest of the world.

Do you have any evidence Putin murdered any political opponents?
Unbacked allegation from Fox News don't count

As an aside, the Trump/Putin broromance is spooky. Some people say (to steal a Trumpism) that Trumps tax returns would show a relation to Putin (ownership in Russian companies). They certainly are alike in being strongmen, dictatorship like desires, and a dislike for Europe.