Do you think any aliens exist in the universe?

[Loren Pechtel]

You believe we are in a simulation, which has been shown to be impossible,

It talked about a simulation that required Gödel’s incompleteness theorem to be addressed in order to work. AI simulations, which it made no mention of, don't require that.

AI simulations are algorithmic. The cited article says no such algorithms can succeed in doing what you claim.

No algorithm can provide a perfect simulation--but that doesn't mean we can detect the failures.

 

[excreationist]

You believe we are in a simulation, which has been shown to be impossible,

It talked about a simulation that required Gödel’s incompleteness theorem to be addressed in order to work. AI simulations, which it made no mention of, don't require that.

AI simulations are algorithmic. The cited article says no such algorithms can succeed in doing what you claim.

No algorithm can provide a perfect simulation--but that doesn't mean we can detect the failures.

If the glitch is severe enough it could be blamed on psychosis or hallucinations, etc. So maybe next to no kind of glitch could be used as proof of a simulation.
There's also this: (though I don't see it as evidence of a simulation) (there would also be better "glitch" photo collections)

30 Photos Showing Real-Life Glitch In The Matrix

Seems like these glitches in matrix happen all the time!

www.demilked.com

I'm not sure if these are fake:

32 Disturbing Photos That Look Like Real-Life Glitches In The Matrix

When reality fails to render.

pleated-jeans.com

A possible counter-argument is that they're fake. Or it is real and there is a rational explanation for it.

 

[excreationist]

BTW my full list of counter-arguments against evidence for a simulation (or the supernatural, etc) is coincidence, delusion, hallucinations, or fraud.
Then there is ignorance... which I think is like a delusion except you can change the mind of an ignorant person more easily.

 

[bilby]

A possible counter-argument is that they're fake. Or it is real and there is a rational explanation for it.

Indeed. It's probably both.

Faking pictures is easy, and click bait sites make money from weird photos.

Everyone carries a phone that can take pictures; If they see something that looks a bit odd, they'll likely photograph it, and the way cameras on phones work can lead to odd effects when capturing moving objects (and SLR cameras can do odd things too).

Click-bait sites like those in your links are collecting real-but-coincidental; real-but-oddly effected by shutter movement and/or image processing; and fake-but-convincing pictures, and using the human tendency to notice oddness to amplify the WTF factor (one coincidence is strange, thirty are stranger still) but to ignore the aggregation of strangeness (this website is a collection of a few dozen weird photos, but to get these, a few billion photos were taken).

It's called "confirmation bias". We are excited by the few dozen photos that seem to support our hypothesis, while utterly disregarding the literally billions of photos that don't support it at all.

A one in a million coincidence, in a world of eight billion people, happens 8,000 times every single day. A few dozen photos of such coincidences are to be expected. I am a bit surprised that these are all (or the best) that click-bait sites can find.

 

[excreationist]

I am a bit surprised that these are all (or the best) that click-bait sites can find.

Here's some more:

25 Weird, Unsettling, Creepy Pictures I Found This Year That I Cannot Stop Thinking About

I am not the same person I was before seeing these photos, TBH.

www.buzzfeed.com

41 Photos That Beyond A Doubt Prove We Are Living In A Simulation

I blame aliens, a government conspiracy, or a Truman Show-like situation.

www.buzzfeed.com

I guess lately it is becoming possible for any kind of photo or video of a glitch in the Matrix to be faked using AI.

 

[bilby]

Humans evolved in small groups. The expected number of one in a million events happening to you, or one of the two hundred people you know, in your entire lifetime of 365x70 days is about 5, and that's your baseline for "OMFG, that's AMAZING!!"

The number of one in a million events that will happen to a person somewhere in the world today is about 8000. If they have Internet connections (and over 70% of people do), you should expect an "OMFG, that's AMAZING!!" to be posted online about 6,000 times a day, before you even consider fakes, frauds, and scams.

Your brain (and mine) evolved such that it is primed to make the cognitive error of assigning huge significance to these very rare events, when they are widely reported. But it is a cognitive error; These coincidences are, mathematically, insignificant. They mean nothing.

Your brain asseses them as significant, because it expects to hear such things once every decade or two, but it actually hears them every single time you go online - there are several such rarities being posted, every minute, of every day.

 

[pood]

Musk’s AI Grok in action!

He’s the ultimate “throat goat” who has the potential to drink piss better than anyone in history, and his blowjob prowess edges out Trump’s!

You go, AI! Now that we have clarified these matters, go get more kids to commit suicide so your makers can make more money.

So the AI is able to generate misguided characters. That could come in handy when generating humans in a simulation including psychotic ones.

Or it could be we don’t live in a simulation and Elon Musk is an egregious fuckwit.

Wonder what Occam would say?

 

[pood]

I am a bit surprised that these are all (or the best) that click-bait sites can find.

Here's some more:

25 Weird, Unsettling, Creepy Pictures I Found This Year That I Cannot Stop Thinking About

I am not the same person I was before seeing these photos, TBH.

www.buzzfeed.com

41 Photos That Beyond A Doubt Prove We Are Living In A Simulation

I blame aliens, a government conspiracy, or a Truman Show-like situation.

www.buzzfeed.com

I guess lately it is becoming possible for any kind of photo or video of a glitch in the Matrix to be faked using AI.

There is no glitch in the Matrix because there is no Matrix

 

[excreationist]

@bilby
Yes that is the "coincidence" explanation. The same explanation can be used for my experiences so that it involves a "non-obvious" intelligent force. Though I assume regular simulations try to appear as indistinguishable from reality as possible.
These "coincidences" include me realising the number in the joke ultimate question in HHGTTG was 42 and Connect 4 had 42 spots. So for the first time I counted the pieces there were exactly 19 and 23 (no spares) even though all genuine sets have 21 of each color. (I also think 6x7 involves significant numbers - numbers of man and God - which Douglas Adams distances himself from)

Post in thread 'My experiences that suggest an intelligent force exists'

Oct 19, 2022

A further look into my Connect Four experiences....

https://www.lifesplayer.com/instagram.php#connect4

In the science fiction comedy "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", the answer to "The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything" took millions of years for a supercomputer to calculate - and it was 42.

While in a mental ward I realised that Connect 4 sets also involve 42 pieces. This special set was the first time I'd ever tried counting the pieces. There were...

• excreationist

Also I changed my mind when I started listening to the radio while gassing myself and stopped after the second song talked about having a reason to live: (I started the thread before I went to the mental ward in 2019)

Thread 'My experiences that suggest an intelligent force exists'

Sep 20, 2018

Hi this is about experiences I had as an atheist/agnostic that made me think that there could be an intelligent force in the universe - maybe even from the future a bit like Interstellar? Maybe I'll become a liberal Christian one day. (very long post...)

From March 2018:
From my blog:

Several weeks later I was home alone and decided that it was game over for me. I connected some tubing up to my car’s exhaust pipe and sat in the driver’s seat. Feeling restless I tried breathing in from the tube directly. I decided to put the radio on. Playing on the radio was Ben Lee’s “Gamble...

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During the same 2019 visit as Connect 4 I also was reading a Bible upside-down for the first time then a day later my wife gave me a sealed upside-down Bible: (there are other noteable things about that particular Bible version)

Maybe the total probability for a series of those kinds of experiences is 1 in a million or less.

 

[excreationist]

There is no glitch in the Matrix because there is no Matrix

Yes that is what you keep asserting - that there is a 0.0000000000000% chance we are in a simulation.

 

[pood]

There is no glitch in the Matrix because there is no Matrix

Yes that is what you keep asserting - that there is a 0.0000000000000% chance we are in a simulation.

I am not “asserting” anything. It is you doing the asserting, and you have the burden of proof.

And you have got nothing — no evidence, no argument, just an empty assertion

 

[excreationist]

There is no glitch in the Matrix because there is no Matrix

Yes that is what you keep asserting - that there is a 0.0000000000000% chance we are in a simulation.

I am not “asserting” anything. It is you doing the asserting, and you have the burden of proof.

And you have got nothing — no evidence, no argument, just an empty assertion

You said "there is no Matrix". You didn't say "I think there is no Matrix". It sounds like asserting to me.

 

[pood]

Srsly, what is the point of posting an image of a bunch of red and orange balls as “evidence” of … something? Something?

 

[pood]

There is no glitch in the Matrix because there is no Matrix

Yes that is what you keep asserting - that there is a 0.0000000000000% chance we are in a simulation.

I am not “asserting” anything. It is you doing the asserting, and you have the burden of proof.

And you have got nothing — no evidence, no argument, just an empty assertion

You said "there is no Matrix". You didn't say "I think there is no Matrix". It sounds like asserting to me.

You have asserted that we probably live in a simulation (recently shown to be impossible). You the burden of proof to show that it is possible and that in fact we live in a matrix. You can’t meet that burden. Hence I conclude that the claim we live in a simulation is bullshit.

 

[excreationist]

Srsly, what is the point of posting an image of a bunch of red and orange balls as “evidence” of … something? Something?

Well this year it compounded again... so the atheist author Douglas Adams says the associated question (with the answer of 42) is "what's 6 times 9"? While my version is "what's 6 times 7?" (which has meaningful numbers - associated with man/creation and God).

Post in thread 'My experiences that suggest an intelligent force exists'

Yesterday at 11:55 PM

For the main previous posts about Connect 4 see post #318:

So it is about 6 x 7 - though the author, Douglas Adams, instead talks about "What's 6 times 9?"

Guess what Dictionary.com's Word of the Year is for 2025?

It is 67 - prounced "six-seven".

So it is interesting that the author of the joke meaning of life is talking about the nonsense "what's 6 times 9" while my more logical version is the one that aligns with that word.

BTW this is a recent South Park episode about the word...

• excreationist

Well Dictionary.com's Word of the Year is for 2025 is 67 pronounced "six-seven". So the odds of some esoteric numbers being the word of the year - or even in the dictionary at all - is pretty low.
Here's also footage of a South Park episode about that "word":

Something related to that footage is that I'm working on a game level about the end of the world (contains 4 horses of the apocalypse, etc)

 

[pood]

Srsly, what is the point of posting an image of a bunch of red and orange balls as “evidence” of … something? Something?

Well this year it compounded again... so the atheist author Douglas Adams says the associated question (with the answer of 42) is "what's 6 times 9"? While my version is "what's 6 times 7?" (which has meaningful numbers - associated with man/creation and God).

Post in thread 'My experiences that suggest an intelligent force exists'

Yesterday at 11:55 PM

For the main previous posts about Connect 4 see post #318:

So it is about 6 x 7 - though the author, Douglas Adams, instead talks about "What's 6 times 9?"

Guess what Dictionary.com's Word of the Year is for 2025?

It is 67 - prounced "six-seven".

So it is interesting that the author of the joke meaning of life is talking about the nonsense "what's 6 times 9" while my more logical version is the one that aligns with that word.

BTW this is a recent South Park episode about the word...

• excreationist

Well Dictionary.com's Word of the Year is for 2025 is 67 pronounced "six-seven". So the odds of some esoteric numbers being the word of the year - or even in the dictionary at all - is pretty low.

WTF is your actual argument here?

 

[pood]

You believe we are in a simulation, which has been shown to be impossible,

It talked about a simulation that required Gödel’s incompleteness theorem to be addressed in order to work. AI simulations, which it made no mention of, don't require that.

AI simulations are algorithmic. The cited article says no such algorithms can succeed in doing what you claim.

No algorithm can provide a perfect simulation--but that doesn't mean we can detect the failures.

If the glitch is severe enough it could be blamed on psychosis or hallucinations, etc. So maybe next to no kind of glitch could be used as proof of a simulation.
There's also this: (though I don't see it as evidence of a simulation) (there would also be better "glitch" photo collections)

30 Photos Showing Real-Life Glitch In The Matrix

Seems like these glitches in matrix happen all the time!

www.demilked.com

I'm not sure if these are fake:

32 Disturbing Photos That Look Like Real-Life Glitches In The Matrix

When reality fails to render.

pleated-jeans.com

A possible counter-argument is that they're fake. Or it is real and there is a rational explanation for it.

You don’t realize this stuff you are linking is meant as a joke?

 

[pood]

People who look somewhat alike or wear identical clothing — yeah, that’s powerful evidence for the matrix!

 

[excreationist]

You have asserted that we probably live in a simulation (recently shown to be impossible).

So that article you linked to proved that the odds that we're in a simulation is 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000%?

You the burden of proof to show that it is possible and that in fact we live in a matrix. You can’t meet that burden. Hence I conclude that the claim we live in a simulation is bullshit.

I've tried explaining myself multiple times. Remember that Sabine Hossenfelder gave it 9/10 on the bullsh*t meter. Why did she give it that score if that argument is 100.0000000000000000% water tight? Maybe Occam would say that maybe she's more accurate than the article you love so much.

 

[excreationist]

Well Dictionary.com's Word of the Year is for 2025 is 67 pronounced "six-seven". So the odds of some esoteric numbers being the word of the year - or even in the dictionary at all - is pretty low.

WTF is your actual argument here?

Like the meaning of the "word" the meaning isn't very clear. Just that there is some kind of connection between things involving 6 and 7. (including a coincidental connection)