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Donald Trump’s Diminutive IQ
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This presupposes that you have to be smart to be elected POTUS. Granted, you have to have certain wiles, but that is not the same as intelligence.
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I hate to disagree. It presumes you have to smart enough. Trump’s victories suggest to me the bar isn’t that high.
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Given the anti-science, anti-college, anti-expert, pro-ignorance attitude more and more conservatives/GOP embrace these days, I'd say the bar has lowered a great deal in the last several decades.
It could be Americans are so fucking stupid a cunt like Trump could be re-elected. I reckon I'm more right than you are.
laughing dog
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The 2 POV are consistent with each other!!
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Google serves up pages which claim to estimate Presidential IQs. With this thread topic and my fetish for Lists, I checked several of the lists just now. There was much variance among the lists, but the consensus seemed to show as the Top Twelve:
Note that some of the "Greatest" -- Washington, Lincoln, FDR -- are missing from this Top Twelve List. Other than FDR (ranked about #13), Trump(!?) and the four shown on this Consensus Top Twelve, all Presidents since Wilson scored poorly, especially the Bushes.
Although not a candidate for "The Top Twelve", Trump was ranked about #16 by at least two lists! Here is one comment:
"Intelligence" is not a single-faceted attribute and it IS possible for a semi-literal sociopath with the emotional maturity of a nine year-old, and lacking all intellectual curiosity to score high in "practical intelligence"; and achieve success -- especially if the sociopath has strong talents as criminal and con-man.
The problem with Trump is not just his stupidity but the fact that he is concerned solely with day-to-day ego gratification and lacks all regard for the country or the future.
- JQ Adams
- Jefferson
- JFK
- Madison
- Clinton
- Carter
- Wilson
- J. Adams
- Obama
- Garfield
- Arthur
- T. Roosevelt
Note that some of the "Greatest" -- Washington, Lincoln, FDR -- are missing from this Top Twelve List. Other than FDR (ranked about #13), Trump(!?) and the four shown on this Consensus Top Twelve, all Presidents since Wilson scored poorly, especially the Bushes.
Although not a candidate for "The Top Twelve", Trump was ranked about #16 by at least two lists! Here is one comment:
"Intelligence" is not a single-faceted attribute and it IS possible for a semi-literal sociopath with the emotional maturity of a nine year-old, and lacking all intellectual curiosity to score high in "practical intelligence"; and achieve success -- especially if the sociopath has strong talents as criminal and con-man.
The problem with Trump is not just his stupidity but the fact that he is concerned solely with day-to-day ego gratification and lacks all regard for the country or the future.
A toddler may be tall enough to pull a vase off an end table. That does not make the toddler objectively tall.
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In his first term, when he weighed considerably more, the reports said he weighed 239. the reason for that number is that this is the threshold of "obese". I put this picture of me on Facebook after that. They said he weights 239 and in this picture I weighed 242.
laughing dog
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No, it makes the toddler tall enough to pull the vase off the table.
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W wasn't the high bar either. His accomplishments amounted to doing things that the son of a professional DC Bureaucrat does. His entire political persona was simulated.
HW Bush was the last Republican elected by the base in 50 years that wasn't a complete fool when it came to governing. The GOP had candidates that were not idiots, Romney and Dole, that is a short list, but they didn't win.