• Welcome to the new Internet Infidels Discussion Board, formerly Talk Freethought.

Ebola vaccine works!

Indeedy-doody - and that's what I call 'science' - something done, and proven to have been done, for the benefit of mankind!
Where's the proof that it works? All you have are online articles claiming that it works and the people involved with supposedly developing the vaccine claiming that their research and testing works. Why do you believe them?

It's just a scam to provide medical researchers with jobs and funding. The vaccine doesn't work or even exist if you ask me.

Some people will believe anything.

“So far, the vaccine has been 100 percent effective in individuals, the United Nation's World Health Organization (WHO) said in a news release on Friday. An independent body of international experts conducted the review and recommended that the trial of the VSV-EBOV vaccine continue.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...nd-its-only-21-light-years-away-10432223.html

Proof positive, and from a globally-respected, authoritative, and impartial source?

“NASA discovers yet another rocky exoplanet, and it’s only 21 light years away.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...nd-its-only-21-light-years-away-10432223.html

Totally speculative and certainly pointless ‘revelation’ from a non-productive collection of self-serving pseudo-scientists. See the difference?
 
Bomb#20 is back! :D :joy:

No, it's 1,200.

The difference is zero. ;)

Yes, I fucked up, by an order of magnitude. Sorry.

Regardless, the death rate from Malaria is several orders of magnitude greater than that from Ebola, so it doesn't affect my point - an Ebola vaccine is good news, and a Malaria vaccine is even better news.

The problem with Ebola is that it is very hard to treat, particularly for third world nations with poor infrastructure.

Victims must have an enormous amount of fluid replaced every day or they die. All the vomit, bleeding, etc that comes out of them is highly infectious.
 
Victims must have an enormous amount of fluid replaced every day or they die. All the vomit, bleeding, etc that comes out of them is highly infectious.

Heartless shit here.

Easy solution. Throw victims in dry hole through hole in a dome. Line perimeter with lethal substance. Shoot those trying to go to them. Problem solved in short order.

Or, burn them live in a furnace.
 
The crucial thing for Ebola is two fold:

- don't bury them just because they died because they are still outrageously contagious (reduces outbreak)
- lots and lots and lots of fluids (possible because you just reduced the outbreak and the medical areas aren't getting flooded and overwhelmed)

The vaccine is good because it'll help alleviate fear if there is a contraction and someone understands they can get a cure, they'd be less likely to hide the infection. The test results are still preliminary results and more testing is required.
 
Last edited:
And then there's the fact that malaria isn't caused by a virus, and so can't be vaccinated against. Bringing it up here is every bit as relevant as bringing up shark attacks in a malaria thread, because the difference between a virus and a protozoan is greater than the difference between a protozoan and a shark.
 
And then there's the fact that malaria isn't caused by a virus, and so can't be vaccinated against. Bringing it up here is every bit as relevant as bringing up shark attacks in a malaria thread, because the difference between a virus and a protozoan is greater than the difference between a protozoan and a shark.

Except this:
GSK seeks approval for world's first malaria vaccine
Final results from Phase III trial suggest substantial public health benefits could be provided by the RTS,S malaria vaccine candidate in endemic regions in sub-Saharan Africa/

If it can't be vaccinated against, then you should let GlaxoSmithKline know, because they are busy manufacturing the impossible. :rolleyes:

The human immune system doesn't know or care about cladistics. It responds to proteins - and both viruses and protozoans have targetable proteins.
 
A few thousand = literally millions for sufficiently small values of literally.

That depends a lot on the period you consider for Ebola; mean worldwide deaths per annum were less than 1 for the three decades to 2010; while Malaria deaths were in the hundreds of thousands.

The Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea outbreak of 2013-15 is a massive outlier, with around 400 deaths per annum.

Of course, a vaccine for either disease is very good news (particularly if you live in one of the three aforementioned countries, where both diseases are currently rampant).

The last time I looked up the stats (which is not just now), malaria deaths were about half a million/year. Every year. Ebola outbreaks do not occur every year and account for a few hundred a year. Which is horrible. But malaria is worse, in terms of deaths. And also to develop a vaccine against since the infectious agent is a parasite and not a virus or bacterium.
 
I think people are forgetting that a white person got ebola therefore it must get a cure!
 
Back
Top Bottom