England headed for A Caliphate

[Tigers!]

Slowly but surely but picking up speed

Play was halted in the 13th minute of Manchester City’s 1-0 win against Leeds after the sun had set to allow the Muslim players to eat. At this point, despite a clear message on the big screen, fans audibly jeered the situation.

Teh Gruaniad

England being conquered by muslim hoards. herds.

For some strange reason, the paying public are to accept this superstitious nonsense without complaint.

FIFY

 

[bilby]

I'm trying to recall all of those Reform inspired bombings of synagoges, schools, concerts, beheadings etc. Perhaps you could help me?

I am sure I would have heard if English Muslims had ever bombed a beheading.

 

[TSwizzle]

Slowly but surely but picking up speed

Play was halted in the 13th minute of Manchester City’s 1-0 win against Leeds after the sun had set to allow the Muslim players to eat. At this point, despite a clear message on the big screen, fans audibly jeered the situation.

Teh Gruaniad

England being conquered by muslim hoards. herds.

For some strange reason, the paying public are to accept this superstitious nonsense without complaint.

FIFY

jog on.

 

[bilby]

Slowly but surely but picking up speed

Play was halted in the 13th minute of Manchester City’s 1-0 win against Leeds after the sun had set to allow the Muslim players to eat. At this point, despite a clear message on the big screen, fans audibly jeered the situation.

Teh Gruaniad

England being conquered by muslim hoards.

For some strange reason, the paying public are to accept this superstitious nonsense without complaint.

The Premier League has had a policy of a one or two minute stoppage for this purpose for several years; It's not new.

The very article you linked even mentions this. "Stoppages of this nature have become a regular feature in football matches in recent years during Ramadan".

Personally I don't think the League should make any religion specific rules, but there's precedent.

Everton don't play Sunday morning matches at Goodison Park, because there is a Christian Church built into the ground - the team was founded in 1879 at St. Domingo's Methodist Church.

Arsenal were prohibited from Sunday matches and from the sale of alcohol at Highbury until 1925, because the ground was leased from St John's College of Divinity.

 

[TSwizzle]

Keir Starmer grovels before muslims as the dhimmi he is

Speaking at the Iftar - an event to mark breaking the Ramadan fast - in Westminster Hall last night, Sir Keir said: 'The war in the Middle East did not begin last week... in Gaza most of all, we must not lose sight of them and the need for peace, justice and security in Palestine and Israel.' He added: 'On Iran, I want to make clear the UK was not involved in the offensive strikes of the US and Israel, and that remains the case.'

Daily Mail

England and much of Europe will become an islamic state in the near future. It's down to math, muslims are outbreeding the indigenous Europeans.

 

[Derec]

The Premier League has had a policy of a one or two minute stoppage for this purpose for several years; It's not new.

The very article you linked even mentions this. "Stoppages of this nature have become a regular feature in football matches in recent years during Ramadan".

"Recent years" makes it pretty new. And note that the imposition of this follows more Muslims invading the UK, and consequently Islam becoming more politically powerful.

Personally I don't think the League should make any religion specific rules, but there's precedent.

I don't think there should be religion-specific rules, but I understand that there is a difference between local traditions, and rules imposed by foreign invaders and colonizers.

 

[laughing dog]

The Premier League has had a policy of a one or two minute stoppage for this purpose for several years; It's not new.

The very article you linked even mentions this. "Stoppages of this nature have become a regular feature in football matches in recent years during Ramadan".

"Recent years" makes it pretty new. And note that the imposition of this follows more Muslims invading the UK, and consequently Islam becoming more politically powerful.

Personally I don't think the League should make any religion specific rules, but there's precedent.

I don't think there should be religion-specific rules, but I understand that there is a difference between local traditions, and rules imposed by foreign invaders and colonizers.

So if the local traditions are due to foreign invaders and colonizers (Christianity in the UK), it’s ok, but when private industry institutes a rule to accommodate Muslims, it’s nit ok.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Keir Starmer grovels before muslims as the dhimmi he is

Speaking at the Iftar - an event to mark breaking the Ramadan fast - in Westminster Hall last night, Sir Keir said: 'The war in the Middle East did not begin last week... in Gaza most of all, we must not lose sight of them and the need for peace, justice and security in Palestine and Israel.' He added: 'On Iran, I want to make clear the UK was not involved in the offensive strikes of the US and Israel, and that remains the case.'

Daily Mail

England and much of Europe will become an islamic state in the near future. It's down to math, muslims are outbreeding the indigenous Europeans.

Your maths is poor. Being Moslem or Christian is not a genetic condition. Britain and rest of Europe are mainly agnostic and atheist, with lip service to religion.
The children of Moslems will integrate into becoming atheists just like the other children of recent generations.
Your breeding claims are suspect, and what is this about" indigenous Europeans"? Moslems have been in Europe for over a thousand years.
Europe has been Christian for a similar period of time, and that was not by Christians outbreeding the pagans, but via conversion (often under arms, meaning by conquest and violence).

 

[TSwizzle]

Keir Starmer grovels before muslims as the dhimmi he is

Speaking at the Iftar - an event to mark breaking the Ramadan fast - in Westminster Hall last night, Sir Keir said: 'The war in the Middle East did not begin last week... in Gaza most of all, we must not lose sight of them and the need for peace, justice and security in Palestine and Israel.' He added: 'On Iran, I want to make clear the UK was not involved in the offensive strikes of the US and Israel, and that remains the case.'

Daily Mail

England and much of Europe will become an islamic state in the near future. It's down to math, muslims are outbreeding the indigenous Europeans.

Your maths is poor.

Why do you say my math is poor? The native Brits are not reproducing to even keep their population as it is. The muslim population produces far more babies than the natives and coupled with mass migration from predominantly muslim countries, at some point soon, the muslims become the majority. This is already the case in many cities in England.

Being Moslem or Christian is not a genetic condition.

A silly thing to say because nobody has ever said this.

Britain and rest of Europe are mainly agnostic and atheist, with lip service to religion.

Maybe so for the enlightened native Europeans. So why are there so many mosques being created in England?

The children of Moslems will integrate into becoming atheists just like the other children of recent generations.

Doesn't seem to be true for muslims so far.

Your breeding claims are suspect, and what is this about" indigenous Europeans"? Moslems have been in Europe for over a thousand years.
Europe has been Christian for a similar period of time, and that was not by Christians outbreeding the pagans, but via conversion (often under arms, meaning by conquest and violence).

Ever since the christians booted the muslims out of Europe, Europe has been able to keep the muslims out thanks to technology. Europe has been fighting a defensive war since that time but now the muslims are making great strides into Europe after being invited in by stupid governments.

Unless something changes soon, Europe will be gone. It is inevitable with the current numbers.

 

[Tigers!]

Keir Starmer grovels before muslims as the dhimmi he is

Speaking at the Iftar - an event to mark breaking the Ramadan fast - in Westminster Hall last night, Sir Keir said: 'The war in the Middle East did not begin last week... in Gaza most of all, we must not lose sight of them and the need for peace, justice and security in Palestine and Israel.' He added: 'On Iran, I want to make clear the UK was not involved in the offensive strikes of the US and Israel, and that remains the case.'

Daily Mail

England and much of Europe will become an islamic state in the near future. It's down to math, muslims are outbreeding the indigenous Europeans.

Your maths is poor. Being Moslem or Christian is not a genetic condition. Britain and rest of Europe are mainly agnostic and atheist, with lip service to religion.
The children of Moslems will integrate into becoming atheists just like the other children of recent generations.
Your breeding claims are suspect, and what is this about" indigenous Europeans"? Moslems have been in Europe for over a thousand years.
Europe has been Christian for a similar period of time, and that was not by Christians outbreeding the pagans, but via conversion (often under arms, meaning by conquest and violence).

Of course the huge Muslim growth between ~650AD to 10th C. had nothing to do with conquest and violence.
What were the Muslims doing at Tours, France in 732AD anyway? I don't think they were there for the waters, the views or the cheeses.

 

[bilby]

The Premier League has had a policy of a one or two minute stoppage for this purpose for several years; It's not new.

The very article you linked even mentions this. "Stoppages of this nature have become a regular feature in football matches in recent years during Ramadan".

"Recent years" makes it pretty new. And note that the imposition of this follows more Muslims invading the UK, and consequently Islam becoming more politically powerful.

Personally I don't think the League should make any religion specific rules, but there's precedent.

I don't think there should be religion-specific rules, but I understand that there is a difference between local traditions, and rules imposed by foreign invaders and colonizers.

The difference being that there are no invaders or colonizers in the UK.

Indeed, until recently it was the UK who did much of the world's invasion and colonisation.

You can tell when a country is being invaded, by the foreign soldiers there; You can tell when a country is being colonized, by the laws being made in a foreign country. The UK has neither.

And there's no other difference; Religion based rules are equally wrong no matter what the religion, and are arguably worse when they are based in "local traditions", because they have more defenders, and those defenders have more power.

Most of the religion problem in the UK stems from wanting to be fair, in a nation with an established church. Fairness demands that all religion be treated equally, but establishment demands power to the CofE - so fairness then demands power to other religions too.

The appropriate course would be disestablishment and secularisation - let no religion's rules apply outside their own, privately owned, venues.

 

[bilby]

Why do you say my math is poor? The native Brits are not reproducing to even keep their population as it is. The muslim population produces far more babies than the natives and coupled with mass migration from predominantly muslim countries, at some point soon, the muslims become the majority.

Yeah, it's not your math that's poor, it's your grasp of genetics, and of sociology.

Having Muslim parents doesn't make a person a Muslim, as someone who responds to accusations of racism with "Muslim is not a race" really ought to be aware.

And people fleeing Muslim countries are mostly trying to escape from Muslim fundamentalists.

 

[Bomb#20]

Why do you say my math is poor? The native Brits are not reproducing to even keep their population as it is. The muslim population produces far more babies than the natives and coupled with mass migration from predominantly muslim countries, at some point soon, the muslims become the majority.

Yeah, it's not your math that's poor, it's your grasp of genetics, and of sociology.

Having Muslim parents doesn't make a person a Muslim, as someone who responds to accusations of racism with "Muslim is not a race" really ought to be aware.

You say that as though genetics is the only mechanism by which having parents with characteristic X could make a person be X. Religions are contagious mental illnesses and most people retain the religion of their parents. Retention rates vary from religion to religion and Islam is at the extreme end of the range -- estimates I've seen for the number of Muslim children in Britain who don't deconvert range from 90% to 98%. So yes, having Muslim parents makes a person a Muslim, with higher probability than having a mother with rubella makes a baby get rubella. Muslims are producing babies and migrating fast enough that even a 10% loss per generation won't stop Muslims from becoming the majority.

And people fleeing Muslim countries are mostly trying to escape from Muslim fundamentalists.

Do you have evidence for that? An awful lot of people fleeing Muslim countries are trying to escape violence and poverty. What makes you think those trying to escape fundamentalism outnumber them?

 

[Derec]

So if the local traditions are due to foreign invaders and colonizers (Christianity in the UK),

Christmas and other traditions developed by the local population over centuries. That is very different than changes being demanded by Muslim invaders.

it’s ok, but when private industry institutes a rule to accommodate Muslims, it’s nit ok.

Because increasingly politically powerful Muslim population is demanding that everybody must accommodate them.

 

[Derec]

Having Muslim parents doesn't make a person a Muslim, as someone who responds to accusations of racism with "Muslim is not a race" really ought to be aware.

Theoretically, Muslim parentage does not guarantee somebody will be a Muslim. But in practical term, it almost always is that way. Not because of genetics (as with racial markers) but because these kids grow up in Muslim households. And as far as discouraging (to put it mildly) deconversion, Islam is far more aggressive than Christianity.

And people fleeing Muslim countries are mostly trying to escape from Muslim fundamentalists.

That's wishful thinking. It may apply to some, but most come to Europe because of economics - generous social payments as well as more lucrative jobs. Some others flee their countries because they are Islamic fundamentalists (e.g. Muslim Brotherhood) and have run afoul of more secular Arab monarchies they wish to depose and replace with some kind of Islamic Republic.

Do these people look to you like they are trying to escape Muslim fundamentalism, or do they seek to impose it?

 

[laughing dog]

So if the local traditions are due to foreign invaders and colonizers (Christianity in the UK),

Christmas and other traditions developed by the local population over centuries. That is very different than changes being demanded by Muslim invaders.

1st, you wrongly attributed that quote to bilby. 2nd, there are no
Muslim invaders. 3rd, what is your evidence that this was demanded?

it’s ok, but when private industry institutes a rule to accommodate Muslims, it’s nit ok.

Because increasingly politically powerful Muslim population is demanding that everybody must accommodate them.

Muslim players in the EPL are politically powerful?

Let me get this straight - your knickers are in a twist because a private organization makes a change in its service that causes no harm to its consumers?

 

[bilby]

So if the local traditions are due to foreign invaders and colonizers (Christianity in the UK),

Christmas and other traditions developed by the local population over centuries. That is very different than changes being demanded by Muslim invaders.

it’s ok, but when private industry institutes a rule to accommodate Muslims, it’s nit ok.

Because increasingly politically powerful Muslim population is demanding that everybody must accommodate them.

I did not post the text to which this is replying.

 

[Arctish]

Enough quibbling about 2 minute time-outs during football games. I want to read the juicy stuff.

When did Prince William convert to Islam? When he becomes the King and official Head of the Church of England, will his religious and political rule be a genuine Caliphate, or a Caliphate in name only? Will the Church of England become the Mosque of England, or will it be disbanded entirely? Will he wear his crown on top of a turban? Will he have a modern contemporary crown made or just take the cross off the top of the old one?

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[ZiprHead]

Why do you say my math is poor? The native Brits are not reproducing to even keep their population as it is. The muslim population produces far more babies than the natives and coupled with mass migration from predominantly muslim countries, at some point soon, the muslims become the majority. This is already the case in many cities in England.

Yay!!! The Great Replacement Theory.

 

[ZiprHead]

And people fleeing Muslim countries are mostly trying to escape from Muslim fundamentalists.

Do you have evidence for that? An awful lot of people fleeing Muslim countries are trying to escape violence and poverty. What makes you think those trying to escape fundamentalism outnumber them?

Do you have any evidence for that?