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Epstein arrested

Angry Floof

Tricksy Leftits
Staff member
Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking of Minors: Sources

Dammit. I should have put money on it.

“It’s been a long time coming—it’s been too long coming,” said attorney David Boies, who represents Epstein accusers Virginia Roberts Giuffre and Sarah Ransome. “It is an important step towards getting justice for the many victims of Mr. Epstein’s sex trafficking enterprise.

“We hope that prosecutors will not stop with Mr. Epstein because there were many other people who participated with him and made the sex trafficking possible," he told The Daily Beast.
 

Rhea

Cyborg with a Tiara
Staff member
Good. I hope they have a strong case and nail him for everything he’s done. Need to get him off the streets and set a pattern of prosecuting these rapists..
 

Toni

Contributor
Hopefully he sings like the Morman Tabernacle Choir and takes his buddies with him.
 

Tom Sawyer

Super Moderator
Staff member
Wow, only fifteen years to get an indictment despite mountains of evidence.

At this rate, he’s looking to be on the receiving end of a stern talking to.
 
Don't celebrate too soon. He needs to be convicted (and hopefully put in jail for a long time). He skated away before. He may again. Thus is the corrupt and buyable system you've got.
 

Cheerful Charlie

Contributor
Hopefully this will send a message to all, the days one could hope to do such things and get away with it may well be coming to an end.
 

J842P

Veteran Member
I just want to know who he has compromising information on that he was able to slither away the last time.

Also, he has had many people supporting him, allegedly, and many now have federal immunity, if I understand correctly? Not to mention all his powerful friends, which include British royalty.

This is some real True Detective shit.
 

repoman

Contributor
The idea that Jeffrey Epstein is not only a pervert, but the orchestrator of a Mossad honeypot operation to get blackmail material on powerful people is the most plausible of all takes.
 

Patooka

Veteran Member
The idea that Jeffrey Epstein is not only a pervert, but the orchestrator of a Mossad honeypot operation to get blackmail material on powerful people is the most plausible of all takes.

Yeah, "It's the joos!" is the most plausible scenario. :rolleyes:
 

Rhea

Cyborg with a Tiara
Staff member

1. Pedophilia only refers to attraction to prepubescent children.
2. Trump probably had dealings with 1000s of people in his business life. 5 of them were involved with underage girls is not that unusual statistically.

I like how you jumped from “is friends with” to the more easily defended “had dealings with as a business person.” Nice dodge to defend the guy who is FRIENDS WITH five KNOWN pedophiles. Great instincts to make excuses for the pedophiles. Maybe Epstein is looking for help on his lawyer team.
 

Angry Floof

Tricksy Leftits
Staff member
1. Pedophilia only refers to attraction to prepubescent children.
2. Trump probably had dealings with 1000s of people in his business life. 5 of them were involved with underage girls is not that unusual statistically.
:rotfl: ARE WE BEING UNFAIR TO YOUR AUTHORITY FIGURE? ARE WE?
 

Patooka

Veteran Member
1. Pedophilia only refers to attraction to prepubescent children.

That is you take home from this? Fine, Jeffrey Epstein is involved with sex trafficking of underage girls. Hate to break it to you, but with the exception of Roy Moore most people don't think there is a difference.

2. Trump probably had dealings with 1000s of people in his business life. 5 of them were involved with underage girls is not that unusual statistically.

If that were even remotely true, this would be commonplace and "Who the hell is friends with five pedophiles" should be an easy question to answer. So name three.
 

Derec

Contributor
That is you take home from this? Fine, Jeffrey Epstein is involved with sex trafficking of underage girls.
My reply wasn't even about Epstein per se but about that stupid picture ZiprHead posted.
And no, sex trafficking is not ok, but at the same time, we should avoid hypebole and use words correctly.

Hate to break it to you, but with the exception of Roy Moore most people don't think there is a difference.
Of course there is a difference. Pedophilia is a serious allegation, and to throw it around at people willy-nilly is just bad. Especially if you only do it to score cheap political points, like whoever created that picture.
Let's look at the second name on that list that the author accuses of "pedophilia". Casablancas probably refers to John Casablancas, who owned a modeling agency in Paris. He had a consensual affair with a 16 year old model at one time. 16 year olds are physically developed, so it's not even in the same category as "pedophilia". In fact, having a sexual relationship with a 16 year old is legal in many US states as well as in Canada and almost all of Europe.

If you, like the author of that picture, have to resort to lying, your argument is weak.


So name three.
There are a lot more people who had relationships with 16 year olds than there are actual pedophiles, which is quite rare, as well as disgusting. Which is why we should refrain from libelous accusation of pedophilia against people who are not.
 

Derec

Contributor
Hmm, going to bat for a pedophile?
Nope. I am going to bat for accuracy in the use of language. A 16 or even 14 year old is not a prepubescent child.
He knew that Epstein was a pedophile.
Do you have any evidence that
1. Epstein is a pedophile in the first place
2. Trump knew 1. if 1. is indeed true

He participated in at least four of the rapes!
How do you know that? At most there have been accusations. Accusation is not proof.
 

Derec

Contributor
rotfl: ARE WE BEING UNFAIR TO YOUR AUTHORITY FIGURE? ARE WE?

You are being unfair toward him, but no he is not "my" figure at all. I didn't even vote for him and only think he is right on two things - illegal migration and dangers of Iran, but he is making a dog's breakfast out of both crises.
So no, I do not support Trump. That does not mean I support maligning him unfairly. I would defend Clinton (who was also Epstein's guest at times) and indeed, I have defended him back when he was president and accused of many things.
 

Derec

Contributor
I like how you jumped from “is friends with” to the more easily defended “had dealings with as a business person.”
What evidence is there that he was friends with any of these people rather than just a business partner? We already know whoever wrote this shit thinks that consensual (and in many places legal) affairs with 16 year olds are the same as "pedophilia" so I would think he has similar difficulties in differentiating friendships and business dealings.

Nice dodge to defend the guy who is FRIENDS WITH five KNOWN pedophiles.
Known pedophiles? Just because they are being called that in an anonymous jpeg?
I have already shown that John Casablancas had nothing whatsoever to do with pedophilia. Can you show me that the rest of these names were? After all, you are claiming they were "known pedophiles" so with all that knowledge you claim on the matter it should be an easy feat, right?
Also show that Trump was friends with them.

Great instincts to make excuses for the pedophiles.
Again, and for the millionth time, sexual relationship with somebody under 18 != pedophilia. It is not even illegal in most places.
 

Angry Floof

Tricksy Leftits
Staff member
rotfl: ARE WE BEING UNFAIR TO YOUR AUTHORITY FIGURE? ARE WE?

You are being unfair toward him, but no he is not "my" figure at all. I didn't even vote for him and only think he is right on two things - illegal migration and dangers of Iran, but he is making a dog's breakfast out of both crises.
So no, I do not support Trump. That does not mean I support maligning him unfairly. I would defend Clinton (who was also Epstein's guest at times) and indeed, I have defended him back when he was president and accused of many things.

You defend the powerful, regardless of what they are doing to the powerless. We see you, jumping to defend predators.
 

Elixir

Content Thief
rotfl: ARE WE BEING UNFAIR TO YOUR AUTHORITY FIGURE? ARE WE?

You are being unfair toward him, but no he is not "my" figure at all. I didn't even vote for him and only think he is right on two things - illegal migration and dangers of Iran, but he is making a dog's breakfast out of both crises.
So no, I do not support Trump. That does not mean I support maligning him unfairly. I would defend Clinton (who was also Epstein's guest at times) and indeed, I have defended him back when he was president and accused of many things.

You defend the powerful, regardless of what they are doing to the powerless. We see you, jumping to defend predators.

At least you know you're always trading in the same cheap currency with that poster.
 

Loren Pechtel

Super Moderator
Staff member
I just want to know who he has compromising information on that he was able to slither away the last time.

Also, he has had many people supporting him, allegedly, and many now have federal immunity, if I understand correctly? Not to mention all his powerful friends, which include British royalty.

This is some real True Detective shit.

Yeah, I figured he must have dirt on some powerful people in order to avoid prosecution for this long.
 
So which president with a credible rape allegation will be more hurt by this arrest?

It's adorable that you think people believe you when you claim you are not a partisan Republican.

Even more adorable when they pretend that their every denial exists in a vacuum, not tainted by the context of their posting history.

Good point, my posting history does show I'm not a partisan Republican. His accusation does hang in a vacuum, wherein he tries to imagine since I pointed the finger at both parties it means I pointed it only at one.
 

Patooka

Veteran Member
It's adorable that you think people believe you when you claim you are not a partisan Republican.

Let's see, I said both a Republican president and a Democrat president have a credible rape accusation. That means I support one of them over the other.

That makes sense?

That you consider Trump and Clinton are sexual predators on equal footing? Yeah, it says a lot. Neither are golden, but one is clearly worse than the other, your whataboutisms notwithstanding.
 
It's adorable that you think people believe you when you claim you are not a partisan Republican.

Let's see, I said both a Republican president and a Democrat president have a credible rape accusation. That means I support one of them over the other.

That makes sense?

That you consider Trump and Clinton are sexual predators on equal footing?

Both of them had multiple accusations. It will be interesting to see what the answer to my question is - which one comes out worse from this Epstein case. That's what I'm looking forward to finding out. With any luck it topples most of the government, and there is that possibility.
 

Angra Mainyu

Veteran Member
That you consider Trump and Clinton are sexual predators on equal footing?

Both of them had multiple accusations. It will be interesting to see what the answer to my question is - which one comes out worse from this Epstein case. That's what I'm looking forward to finding out. With any luck it topples most of the government, and there is that possibility.

I doubt either of them would be seriously affected. Clinton because he is mostly irrelevant in politics these days, so not much of an effort will likely focus on him. Trump because most people seem to have made up his mind about him, and most of his voters will likely stick with him over an alternative, due to policy rather than personal character considerations.

But I don't know who will be more seriously hurt. As for toppling most of the government, it's not happening. :)
 

Trausti

Contributor
That you consider Trump and Clinton are sexual predators on equal footing?

Both of them had multiple accusations. It will be interesting to see what the answer to my question is - which one comes out worse from this Epstein case. That's what I'm looking forward to finding out. With any luck it topples most of the government, and there is that possibility.

Lawyer for one of the victims says that Trump only high profile person to help. Go to 5:30 mark:

 
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