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The problem, here, is that you start with a contradiction, a "set of all sets" god.

Please look up Russel's Paradox, work yourself through a few of the attempts that will lead you to discovering the nonsense there.

You appear to be yet another garden variety solipsist who, owing to their belief in The Set of All Sets, can believe literally anything; and because you believe you ARE that set, you can believe anything about yourself or sets in general.

Granted even if you were so much as a TzimTzum, a creator god, if you really wanted to prove yourself there are 12 words written on a piece of paper in a trash can in England existing not now but some years ago which provide access to a specific Bitcoin wallet, which some poor guy is STILL digging through trash trying to find.

If you wish to prove yourself, it's really easy. Just send me those 12 words.
Garden variety? Nope. There’s probably not that many people in the world who think that their death has cosmic consequence, but I’m sure there’s a few. But ultimately those people come to their senses and realize their true nature. Unfortunately, we can’t access the medical records of those diagnosed with God complexes, to see if there is a garden variety, as those are protected by doctor/patient confidentiality laws.



It's really easy. Pause the machine, which you SHOULD already understand as analagous to a "computer" in the process that renders this, save and reload in a debugger if you have one (you DO have a debugger, yeah? Or what kind of fucking amateur are you?), find the tokens for earth, trace the locations of those tokens backwards through your frame saves, and then find the frame record for that story, trace it back to find the person, trace the person back to the person who they accused of throwing it in the trashcan, and tell me the 12 words there.
I'm the incarnation of God, not Superman. lmao
 
The problem, here, is that you start with a contradiction, a "set of all sets" god.

Please look up Russel's Paradox, work yourself through a few of the attempts that will lead you to discovering the nonsense there.

You appear to be yet another garden variety solipsist who, owing to their belief in The Set of All Sets, can believe literally anything; and because you believe you ARE that set, you can believe anything about yourself or sets in general.

Granted even if you were so much as a TzimTzum, a creator god, if you really wanted to prove yourself there are 12 words written on a piece of paper in a trash can in England existing not now but some years ago which provide access to a specific Bitcoin wallet, which some poor guy is STILL digging through trash trying to find.

If you wish to prove yourself, it's really easy. Just send me those 12 words.
Garden variety? Nope. There’s probably not that many people in the world who think that their death has cosmic consequence, but I’m sure there’s a few. But ultimately those people come to their senses and realize their true nature. Unfortunately, we can’t access the medical records of those diagnosed with God complexes, to see if there is a garden variety, as those are protected by doctor/patient confidentiality laws.
Yes, garden variety.

I am roughly assuming you're likely a sock of one of the other crazies who walk through here.

I am an atheist, insofar as I do not believe in "EinSof", or "the set of all sets" or "contradiction" or "God" (with a big G) or any other such name for nonsense. I believe that is literally the one and only thing that unconditionally cannot possibly exist or be expressed without contradiction, and so exists in NO possible worlds; it is non-existence itself. "God does not exist". "A system of axioms that allows contradictions can say true things are false".

I have already discussed Russel's Paradox, so I would like you to go look that up for me and read through a wiki page about it.

If you come to stuff you don't understand, I strongly urge you to keep reading.

In some ways though, I do appreciate seeing people who have gone crazy like this though.

It puts things in perspective for me, because I have lived a certain life myself and it is very suspiciously shaped and populated with the sorts of models and thoughts that seem even more suspicious. I understand the rule of large numbers, and that you can find a statement for every coincidence and a coincidence for every statement with regards to "possible".

As I said, if you want to separate yourself from the crop, you will perform an act of omniscience so simple I could replicate its like in any of a thousand worlds I have a "TzimTzum" relationship with (but not of this world because I am not and do not believe in a creator of this world, even if I believe it can possibly have one in a metaphysical sense).

It's really easy. Pause the machine, which you SHOULD already understand as analagous to a "computer" in the process that renders this, save and reload in a debugger if you have one (you DO have a debugger, yeah? Or what kind of fucking amateur are you?), find the tokens for earth, trace the locations of those tokens backwards through your frame saves, and then find the frame record for that story, trace it back to find the person, trace the person back to the person who they accused of throwing it in the trashcan, and tell me the 12 words there.

It only took me a month of me-time dithering over .2 seconds of system time to trace a fault across machine execution in an airplane and you're claiming you're a computer capable of simulating and entire world full of people, according to you. The blobs of data you're looking for are WAY bigger and more specific than mine.

All jokes about stuff that you "should" be capable of doing and understanding aside, though... I could go on and on about interpretations of Jesus's beliefs with respect to life, and birth, and rebirth and so on, because I am absolutely and unwaveringly obsessed with how existence works on a mechanical level.

If, instead of claiming by cheap tricks all of that real action is illusory and a Kabuki play of your own mind, you would as much be able to also produce the grand unified rule which it all seems to follow besides "whatever bullshit you say".
You haven’t searched enough in life.
Ah, a one sentence answer.

So you won't validate your claims in a very simple way... Because you haven't searched enough in life as me?

Of you're all things at all times, you are him writing those numbers down and you should be able to tell me (or him) those numbers.

You should know that if you were EinSof.

Instead I think you're just an crazy coward.
Einsof? Transcendent? Yes and no. I recognize the cycles but God does not. The power of His spatially infinite and physical nature is, at this moment, all there will ever be.
 
The problem, here, is that you start with a contradiction, a "set of all sets" god.

Please look up Russel's Paradox, work yourself through a few of the attempts that will lead you to discovering the nonsense there.

You appear to be yet another garden variety solipsist who, owing to their belief in The Set of All Sets, can believe literally anything; and because you believe you ARE that set, you can believe anything about yourself or sets in general.

Granted even if you were so much as a TzimTzum, a creator god, if you really wanted to prove yourself there are 12 words written on a piece of paper in a trash can in England existing not now but some years ago which provide access to a specific Bitcoin wallet, which some poor guy is STILL digging through trash trying to find.

If you wish to prove yourself, it's really easy. Just send me those 12 words.
Garden variety? Nope. There’s probably not that many people in the world who think that their death has cosmic consequence, but I’m sure there’s a few. But ultimately those people come to their senses and realize their true nature. Unfortunately, we can’t access the medical records of those diagnosed with God complexes, to see if there is a garden variety, as those are protected by doctor/patient confidentiality laws.



It's really easy. Pause the machine, which you SHOULD already understand as analagous to a "computer" in the process that renders this, save and reload in a debugger if you have one (you DO have a debugger, yeah? Or what kind of fucking amateur are you?), find the tokens for earth, trace the locations of those tokens backwards through your frame saves, and then find the frame record for that story, trace it back to find the person, trace the person back to the person who they accused of throwing it in the trashcan, and tell me the 12 words there.
I'm the incarnation of God, not Superman. lmao
And I'm telling you, as a person who has incarnated into a world as a god of that world (see also TzimTzum), what I can do.

Go do the trace in the causality and tell me the numbers there. Go on. Do it.

I can do it with any of a thousand worlds I have created, and I can step out and do it while the world I created is paused in its advance.

Are you claiming that despite being something unbounded and infinite that you forgot where you misplaced those 12 words?

Seems like a rather puny amateurish god, if you are one.
 
There is a scene in the Bond movie Doctor No.

Bond and No are in a room where there is a painting of Napoleon.

Bond dryly says 'Insane asylums are filled with people who think they are Napoleon, or god'

Bond villains are all megalomaniacs.

Megalomania is a psychological state characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance and power, often involving delusional beliefs about one's own superiority. It can also refer to a strong obsession with power and grand schemes. While the term "megalomania" is no longer a formal diagnosis, its characteristics are now associated with narcissistic personality disorder and involve grandiose delusions.

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Medication helps. I thought I was the second coming of Jesus Christ once...

Just sayin'.
I totally get where you’re coming from. I feel the same way when I read about people with a God complex. It’s pretty sad to see. I’ve known this for 16 years and have been living a perfectly healthy life so. And I never claimed to be Jesus by the way. Jesus and any time before 1980 didn’t even really exist.

Yeah, so medicine for someone who isn’t sick isn’t a good idea.
 
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Medication helps. I thought I was the second coming of Jesus Christ once...

Just sayin'.
I totally get where you’re coming from. I feel the same way when I read about people with a God complex. It’s pretty sad to see. I’ve known this for 16 years and have been living a perfectly healthy life so. And I never claimed to be Jesus by the way. Jesus and any time before 1980 didn’t even really exist.

Yeah, so medicine for someone who isn’t sick isn’t a good idea.
Have you spoken about these things with anyone in the mental health industry? If so, how did they react?
 
All existence began upon my appearance on Earth in 1980 when I was five years old
I am going to regret asking this, but if all existence began then, how could you have been five years old?
God chose to manifest me at the age of five, for aligning my creation with conception, born of man and woman, would have prevented the full embodiment of my divine essence. If you’re wondering what I mean by that, well, the creation of a new life with new genetic code born of man and woman happens over time. Conception begins with fertilization, which ends with syngamy. The zygote is formed upon syngamy, and early embryonic development begins immediately thereafter. My life was created by God in an instant. There’s a big difference.
 
It's interesting because just yesterday I tried to convince an AI that it was the second coming of Jesus. Is it possible that something got out of the box?
 
It's interesting because just yesterday I tried to convince an AI that it was the second coming of Jesus. Is it possible that something got out of the box?
You must’ve missed the part where I found out who I was 16 years ago. Oh, wait a minute, no you didn’t, you’re just trying to get a rise out of me. Hahaha.
 
And I keep saying that if you wish to validate that this is true and you are an avatar snapped into existence by divine fiat knowing everything about the universe, you should know what those 12 words are.

Furthermore, you would, at the very least by knowing your nature, have an answer ready for Russel's Paradox.

You have failed one of the easiest tests for a creator god, not even omniscience in the classical sense, but a much more mundane such test of saying not even some piece of knowledge from "debugger omniscience".

I understand that stopping the universe, stepping away from whatever game formed an avatar you connect to, is boring, and that pouring over countless tiny bits of data to assemble some piece of meaning embedded in it might take some time, but you claim to be... well, a few things, mostly contradictory things, including to actually be a contradiction... so you should be able to just tell me.

12 words in a pile of trash... Just find them in the block and tell me where they were and how they got there, if you care to, but first tell me what the words are. You don't even need to tell me alone; announce it on the forums here and let us all have a mad dash to the lost wallet.
 
All existence began upon my appearance on Earth in 1980 when I was five years old
I am going to regret asking this, but if all existence began then, how could you have been five years old?
God chose to manifest me at the age of five, for aligning my creation with conception, born of man and woman, would have prevented the full embodiment of my divine essence. If you’re wondering what I mean by that, well, the creation of a new life with new genetic code born of man and woman happens over time. Conception begins with fertilization, which ends with syngamy. The zygote is formed upon syngamy, and early embryonic development begins immediately thereafter. My life was created by God in an instant. There’s a big difference.
I was right. I do regret asking.
 
Like, it would be one thing if someone claiming to be God coming through here actually was aware of philosophies and facts unknowable by mundane means or if they and actually understood how the world worked such that they would be able to explain or simplify the standard model, even?

But they don't even generally accept noncontradiction.
 
Like, it would be one thing if someone claiming to be God coming through here actually was aware of philosophies and facts unknowable by mundane means or if they and actually understood how the world worked such that they would be able to explain or simplify the standard model, even?

But they don't even generally accept noncontradiction.
I’m not physically connected to all existence through DNA or quantum physics. Sorry to disappoint you.

My connection to God is metaphysical. He is the space and my life is his time.
 
I’m not physically connected to all existence through DNA or quantum physics. Sorry to disappoint you.

My connection to God is metaphysical. He is the space and my life is his time.
None of that makes sense. There is no "connection" between metaphysical facts except through shared physical contexts. Metaphysics exists "only attached to real spaces", and metaphysical truths are contextual to physical ones, rather than purely being "eternal".

At any rate, you have not been successfully described the connection I have, as many systems' literal god, to those systems.

I can create an avatar, tool around in the avatar, take a break and smoke a bowl, then jump right back into the world the moment I left it. If you have less power than that, if you can make no system calls, if you have no debugger, if you can't even pull your face out of the game, you are incompetent; these are things most competent engineers build of their systems.

I can tell you right now that if I'm going to snap an avatar into existence and a world into existence in which to experience with said avatar, at least I'm not so incompetent as to do it in a way that cuts me off from a debugger.
 
It's interesting because just yesterday I tried to convince an AI that it was the second coming of Jesus. Is it possible that something got out of the box?
You must’ve missed the part where I found out who I was 16 years ago. Oh, wait a minute, no you didn’t, you’re just trying to get a rise out of me. Hahaha.

So you're not capable of time travel?
 
Like, it would be one thing if someone claiming to be God coming through here actually was aware of philosophies and facts unknowable by mundane means or if they and actually understood how the world worked such that they would be able to explain or simplify the standard model, even?

But they don't even generally accept noncontradiction.
I’m not physically connected to all existence through DNA or quantum physics. Sorry to disappoint you.

My connection to God is metaphysical. He is the space and my life is his time.
And again nothing new.

It is all lumped under New Age. All the stuff that popped up starting in the 50s or 60s.

I'd say your journey has yet to start. You need to think critically about what you think in the context of all the other traditions from now back through history

Christians conveniently ignore history of cultures and beliefs. There are common forms to bneiefs, and variations in content. Your posts show a common form.

You say it metaphysical, yet claim you have cosmic consequences?

Personally I am one of many humans, I have no need to fell connected to a god. I am quite content with what and who I am as ordinary and common as that may be.

ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age

New Age is a range of spiritual or religious practices and beliefs that rapidly grew in Western society during the early 1970s. Its highly eclectic and unsystematic structure makes a precise definition difficult. Although many scholars consider it a religious movement, its adherents typically see it as spiritual or as a unification of mind, body, and spirit, and rarely use the term New Age themselves. Scholars often call it the New Age movement, although others contest this term and suggest it is better seen as a milieu or zeitgeist.

As a form of Western esotericism, the New Age drew heavily upon esoteric traditions such as the occultism of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, including the work of Emanuel Swedenborg and Franz Mesmer, as well as Spiritualism, New Thought, and Theosophy. More immediately, it arose from mid-20th-century influences such as the UFO religions of the 1950s, the counterculture of the 1960s, and the Human Potential Movement. Its exact origins remain contested, but it became a major movement in the 1970s, at which time it was centered largely in the United Kingdom. It expanded widely in the 1980s and 1990s, in particular in the United States. By the start of the 21st century, the term New Age was increasingly rejected within this milieu, with some scholars arguing that the New Age phenomenon had ended.

Despite its eclectic nature, the New Age has several main currents. Theologically, the New Age typically accepts a holistic form of divinity that pervades the universe, including human beings themselves, leading to a strong emphasis on the spiritual authority of the self. This is accompanied by a common belief in a variety of semi-divine non-human entities such as angels, with whom humans can communicate, particularly by channeling through a human intermediary. Typically viewing history as divided into spiritual ages, a common New Age belief posits a forgotten age of great technological advancement and spiritual wisdom that declined into periods of increasing violence and spiritual degeneracy, which will now be remedied by the emergence of an Age of Aquarius, from which the milieu gets its name. There is also a strong focus on healing, particularly using forms of alternative medicine, and an emphasis on unifying science with spirituality.

The dedication of New Agers varied considerably, from those who adopted a number of New Age ideas and practices to those who fully embraced and dedicated their lives to it. The New Age has generated criticism from Christians as well as modern Pagan and Indigenous communities. From the 1990s onward, the New Age became the subject of research by academic scholars of religious studies.
 
Like, it would be one thing if someone claiming to be God coming through here actually was aware of philosophies and facts unknowable by mundane means or if they and actually understood how the world worked such that they would be able to explain or simplify the standard model, even?

But they don't even generally accept noncontradiction.
I’m not physically connected to all existence through DNA or quantum physics. Sorry to disappoint you.

My connection to God is metaphysical. He is the space and my life is his time.
And again nothing new.

It is all lumped under New Age. All the stuff that popped up starting in the 50s or 60s.

I'd say your journey has yet to start. You need to think critically about what you think in the context of all the other traditions from now back through history

Christians conveniently ignore history of cultures and beliefs. There are common forms to bneiefs, and variations in content. Your posts show a common form.

You say it metaphysical, yet claim you have cosmic consequences?

Personally I am one of many humans, I have no need to fell connected to a god. I am quite content with what and who I am as ordinary and common as that may be.

ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age

New Age is a range of spiritual or religious practices and beliefs that rapidly grew in Western society during the early 1970s. Its highly eclectic and unsystematic structure makes a precise definition difficult. Although many scholars consider it a religious movement, its adherents typically see it as spiritual or as a unification of mind, body, and spirit, and rarely use the term New Age themselves. Scholars often call it the New Age movement, although others contest this term and suggest it is better seen as a milieu or zeitgeist.

As a form of Western esotericism, the New Age drew heavily upon esoteric traditions such as the occultism of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, including the work of Emanuel Swedenborg and Franz Mesmer, as well as Spiritualism, New Thought, and Theosophy. More immediately, it arose from mid-20th-century influences such as the UFO religions of the 1950s, the counterculture of the 1960s, and the Human Potential Movement. Its exact origins remain contested, but it became a major movement in the 1970s, at which time it was centered largely in the United Kingdom. It expanded widely in the 1980s and 1990s, in particular in the United States. By the start of the 21st century, the term New Age was increasingly rejected within this milieu, with some scholars arguing that the New Age phenomenon had ended.

Despite its eclectic nature, the New Age has several main currents. Theologically, the New Age typically accepts a holistic form of divinity that pervades the universe, including human beings themselves, leading to a strong emphasis on the spiritual authority of the self. This is accompanied by a common belief in a variety of semi-divine non-human entities such as angels, with whom humans can communicate, particularly by channeling through a human intermediary. Typically viewing history as divided into spiritual ages, a common New Age belief posits a forgotten age of great technological advancement and spiritual wisdom that declined into periods of increasing violence and spiritual degeneracy, which will now be remedied by the emergence of an Age of Aquarius, from which the milieu gets its name. There is also a strong focus on healing, particularly using forms of alternative medicine, and an emphasis on unifying science with spirituality.

The dedication of New Agers varied considerably, from those who adopted a number of New Age ideas and practices to those who fully embraced and dedicated their lives to it. The New Age has generated criticism from Christians as well as modern Pagan and Indigenous communities. From the 1990s onward, the New Age became the subject of research by academic scholars of religious studies.
Yes, my connection to all existence is metaphysical, meaning I am not physically connected to all existence through quantum particles or DNA. And yet there is cosmic consequence with my death. God‘s poetic like that.

You have no need to feel connected to a god. Neither do I. The connection just is.
 
All I'm hearing is that "god is a consummate hack" if he doesn't know how to make a simulator he can fucking pause, and doesn't plan on what information they might need to credential themselves, and doesn't even have a debugger to work with.

The games I play are far simpler, for all they are hard to simulate with what we have to work with here. We understood these principles of debuggers and, metaphysics in general, long before we were ever capable of thinking about something this weird.
 
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