Jimmy Higgins
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While optics of the resuming o government business is not positive for the Democrats, I don't exactly see where the Dems had victory in sight. America is for DACA by majority. But America was against the shutdown being used to push DACA into law. Schumer was in a bad situation of pushing for a majority supported position via the only maneuver available to him... and the same people supporting DACA were against that maneuver. The Dems didn't fail, the people (and their inability to understand how Congress is run at this time) did.Too lazy to start a poll, but wanted to ask -
What will the fallout of the Trump Shutdown look like?
Helps one party or another?
Helps or hurts Trump?
Bonus question: How long will De Gummint be shut down?
The short lived shut down is only a first step. The latest reopening is temporary and then we go through this again. So it is too early to be making predictions how this will play out. DACA must be renewed in March. All of this will play out over the next few months. Louisiana representitive Steve Scalise is now saying tha helping dreamers would anger the GOP base. Not doing so will anger the base of pro-Dreamer supporters. So just as the election season starts up, all of this will become real issues. DACA and a budget deal are now intertwined so it's going to be a bitter fight to settle this. We are only in Act One so far. And we have no idea how el Trumo will go as this all heats up. Trumpo is bellowing that the "Democrats have caved!" What they really did was left the GOP with an issue that gives them a choice. Cave in and anger their base, fail to help the Dreamers and piss everybody else off.
For us political junkie types, this is going to be an interesting year. But so far, the GOP is setting itself on fire.
What politics have you been watching over the past 20 years? The Dems are guaranteed to be more harmed by this and snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory yet again.
So Schumer pulled out. It doesn't look great, but it is hardly a victory for Republicans as presented, as all they managed to do was Stopgap Bill again. They own the Government and can barely get a Stopgap Bill through, forget about a budget.
The union people I've been working around recently have been pretty pro-Trump. I tried to explain the irony to them, but their minds have been warped badly by so many years of propaganda to get it.In general, the future of the Dems is far more bleak than the GOP. The Dems used to win by depending on the Union vote. Unions are dying and soon to be extinct. Lack of the Union vote for Dems is the #1 reason Trump won. The Dem's reliable base is comprised mostly of aging traditional liberals who think (rightly) that supporting a moderate party capable of limiting the power of rightist extremists is a better strategy than trying to appeal to a more extreme left base that doesn't vote and doesn't have enough money or organization to support a viable campaign.
The Democrats have problems mainly because of 30 years of propaganda that has successfully manipulated opinion and misinformed people. Despite 8 years of a relatively successful Obama Administration... people voted for the party that handed Obama the worst economy since the Great Depression. These people thought we were still in recession at the end of Obama's Presidency, but now use the same economic numbers to prove Trump's plan is working.
Now, there is hope, based on the turnout we have seen in small off season elections. But that turnout has to be seen in November.