Far-right protesters burn and loot in Dublin in worst violence ‘in decades’

[Politesse]

Conservatives have allowed themselves to become groomed to extremism by people with a capitalist agenda

I guess you prefer left-wingers being groomed by people with a Marxist agenda like the founders of #BLM?

to make money from advertising on it...

Marxist grifters make a lot of money for themselves too.
BLM finances under fire: Only 33% of donations given to charities as execs paid millions

and foreign powers that aim to destabilize Western Society.

You mean e.g. the theocratic regime in Tehran that some people on here don't think is so bad?
Or Putin who has a vested interest in US banning fracking for oil and natural gas because high US oil and gas production from shale deposits reduces his profit margins and ability to extort western Europe? Green Party candidate Jill Stein is very chummy with Putin btw.

The question is, how far will they allow themselves to be pushed to violent extremism.

Not any farther than left-wingers have over the last decade I would predict.

The OP is about riots in Dublin. Dublin is not in Iran and there is no evidence of #BLM involvement in the riots nor of Putin’s.

So what on earth are you on about?

Supposedly there's a double standard at play if people don't react with equal outrage to pro-fascist and anti-fascist social action.

 

[Worldtraveller]

It's not a double standard.

It's just having standards.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Conservatives have allowed themselves to become groomed to extremism by people with a capitalist agenda

I guess you prefer left-wingers being groomed by people with a Marxist agenda like the founders of #BLM?

No, not like that. Like in how conservatives across Europe, the United States, South America, India have seen an increase in support for far-right political parties / agendas. The left-wing has helped push people into power like Chavez, but those movements are generally not occurring right now, and in the last ten or so years, the right-wing has been getting real angry... over little stuff too (LGBT, fake CTs, stuff that isn't actually taught in school).

to make money from advertising on it...

Marxist grifters make a lot of money for themselves too.
BLM finances under fire: Only 33% of donations given to charities as execs paid millions

That sounds like some serious problems with a few people that aren't in elected positions of power, and should be dealt with. It doesn't sound like a political movement. Joe Biden is President, not some *scary echo* "#BLM'er".

and foreign powers that aim to destabilize Western Society.

You mean e.g. the theocratic regime in Tehran that some people on here don't think is so bad?

Oh for fuck sakes. Do you have no capability of understanding nuance in positions. No one here thinks the Iranian theocracy is a good thing. The disagreement is how to manage it.

Or Putin who has a vested interest in US banning fracking for oil and natural gas because high US oil and gas production from shale deposits reduces his profit margins and ability to extort western Europe? Green Party candidate Jill Stein is very chummy with Putin btw.

Christ... people can also be wrong too, without having to be in the pockets of anyone. Fracking has a bad reputation, and generally unfairly so. There have been inaccurate claims made and promoted about it. But what the heck does that have to do with massive political movements? Fracking happened. The uber-liberal Democrat party* did not stop it. Our water sources were not polluted (by the fracking... though we did make the Earth shake a little. The worst part of the fracking was the bentonite hydrofractures during the installation of pipelines to convey the gas.

The question is, how far will they allow themselves to be pushed to violent extremism.

Not any farther than left-wingers have over the last decade I would predict.

As a reminder... January 6th, 2021. Liberals didn't riot over W and that was some serious fucked up shit... and even Trump managed to get elected by the EC without the majority of Democrats voting to say states stole the election.

 

[TSwizzle]

Disingenuous at best;

The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, he added. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

BBC

The "Irish citizen" that is being questioned about this attack is apparently an Algerian national. I am going to hatefully assume that this Algerian national is a follower of teh islam.

The BBC gets more like Prada.

 

[laughing dog]

Conservatives have allowed themselves to become groomed to extremism by people with a capitalist agenda

I guess you prefer left-wingers being groomed by people with a Marxist agenda like the founders of #BLM?

to make money from advertising on it...

Marxist grifters make a lot of money for themselves too.
BLM finances under fire: Only 33% of donations given to charities as execs paid millions

and foreign powers that aim to destabilize Western Society.

You mean e.g. the theocratic regime in Tehran that some people on here don't think is so bad?
Or Putin who has a vested interest in US banning fracking for oil and natural gas because high US oil and gas production from shale deposits reduces his profit margins and ability to extort western Europe? Green Party candidate Jill Stein is very chummy with Putin btw.

The question is, how far will they allow themselves to be pushed to violent extremism.

Not any farther than left-wingers have over the last decade I would predict.

The OP is about riots in Dublin. Dublin is not in Iran and there is no evidence of #BLM involvement in the riots nor of Putin’s.

So what on earth are you on about?

Supposedly there's a double standard at play if people don't react with equal outrage to pro-fascist and anti-fascist social action.

Thanks. I just thought it was another pointless “whataboutism” to deflect from misbehaviour from the right wing.

 

[Gospel]

Disingenuous at best;

The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, he added. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

BBC

The "Irish citizen" that is being questioned about this attack is apparently an Algerian national. I am going to hatefully assume that this Algerian national is a follower of teh islam.

The BBC gets more like Prada.

You should also assume that some of the people that helped stop him were followers of teh Islam. But based on your hateful opinion, you wont.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Disingenuous at best;

The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, he added. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

BBC

The "Irish citizen" that is being questioned about this attack is apparently an Algerian national. I am going to hatefully assume that this Algerian national is a follower of teh islam.

The BBC gets more like Prada.

How long until they are an "Irish citizen"? Am I still a Massachusetts citizen despite living in Ohio for over 20 years?

The guy certainly could have had religiously based murderous intent... could also be mentally ill. But I'm glad you settled on terrorism so quickly. However, props on you being on top of stabbings in Ireland and knowing which ones are terrorism and which ones are just people stabbing people for other bad reasons.

 

[TSwizzle]

Disingenuous at best;

The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, he added. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

BBC

The "Irish citizen" that is being questioned about this attack is apparently an Algerian national. I am going to hatefully assume that this Algerian national is a follower of teh islam.

The BBC gets more like Pravda.

How long until they are an "Irish citizen"? Am I still a Massachusetts citizen despite living in Ohio for over 20 years?

I am a naturalized US citizen and have lived in California for more than 20 years. I don't consider myself to be an American. But that is neither here nor there. It is the Orwellian attempt to insinuate this attack was carried out by your run of the mill, Guinness swilling, bookie regular, hurly playing Irishman. It wasn't. We all know it wasn't but still the authorities want to talk people like they are thick. And the BBC go along with it.

 

[Gospel]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

I am a naturalized US citizen and have lived in California for more than 20 years. I don't consider myself to be an American. But that is neither here nor there.

The United States recognizes you as a U.S. citizen, so it is legitimate for me to refer to you as such. Similarly, someone who has been naturalized in Ireland is rightfully considered an Irish citizen. The BBC's description aligns with this understanding. Your argument to the contrary is influenced by your admittedly hateful bias. Nothing more.

 

[TSwizzle]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

 

[Politesse]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

 

[TSwizzle]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

And he is not Irish. He is Algerian with Irish citizenship. And muslim.

 

[Politesse]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

And he is not Irish. He is Algerian with Irish citizen ship. And muslim.

So if you were to be accused of a crime, would you would find it reasonable for someone to be outraged about the foreign invasion of our country it represents, as your skin color marks you as obviously non-Californian?

 

[Politesse]

The eye roll.

 

[Elixir]

The guy certainly could have had religiously based murderous intent... could also be mentally ill.

Look here, if you want him to be mentally ill, you gotta give him an AR15.

 

[Gospel]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

And he is not Irish. He is Algerian with Irish citizenship. And muslim.

He's still not a Foreign national or migrant outside of someone's hateful imagination.

 

[TSwizzle]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

And he is not Irish. He is Algerian with Irish citizenship. And muslim.

He's still not a Foreign national or migrant outside of someone's hateful imagination.

He is still not Irish and he is still muslim.

 

[Gospel]

At no point did the article or myself label him as Irish. Rather, we both accurately referred to him as an Irish citizen. I'm puzzled by the source of your enthusiasm, unless it's driven by some less-than-admirable motives.

 

[repoman]

I think the point of the BBC article was to point out that the individual was not a migrant.

The ministry of truth stated; The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

The attacker was Algerian. He is of course a citizen of Ireland but he 'aint Irish.

If he's "of course" a citizen of Ireland, he's "of course" not a foreign national.

And he is not Irish. He is Algerian with Irish citizenship. And muslim.

He's still not a Foreign national or migrant outside of someone's hateful imagination.

I will give a hypothetical.

If he was a productive citizen (not the case for this exact person - but many non-native, foreign-born naturalized Irish citizens are not losers and leeches) got into a fight with an ethnic Irish adult male that resulted in HIS death... I am sure there would be a full scouring of the ethnic Irishman's full social media history and all possible video and audio would be looking for any ethnic or religious slurs uttered.

He would also be described as Algerian in the press.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Disingenuous at best;

The "extraordinary outbreak of violence" had come after "hateful assumptions" were made based on material circulating online in the wake of the stabbings, he added. It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

BBC

The "Irish citizen" that is being questioned about this attack is apparently an Algerian national. I am going to hatefully assume that this Algerian national is a follower of teh islam.

The BBC gets more like Pravda.

How long until they are an "Irish citizen"? Am I still a Massachusetts citizen despite living in Ohio for over 20 years?

I am a naturalized US citizen and have lived in California for more than 20 years. I don't consider myself to be an American. But that is neither here nor there. It is the Orwellian attempt to insinuate this attack was carried out by your run of the mill, Guinness swilling, bookie regular, hurly playing Irishman. It wasn't. We all know it wasn't but still the authorities want to talk people like they are thick. And the BBC go along with it.

What in the heck is hurly? You mean hurling?

Regardless, is it Orwellian to link the attack of a person automatically to their religion? Or is that totally above board?