Female Privilege, part 43989222

[Toni]

It may shock you to know that there are plenty of men who are not particularly tall--even for a woman. In fact, I'm short and I know some perfectly normal men who are a)not Asian and yet b) still are my height--or less. My daughter and my son are nearly the same height as one another (and a lot taller than I am.) Their feet are pretty much the same size, too. He's not very tall for a man; she's taller than average for a woman--but not freakishly so, despite what she thinks. Well under 6 ft.

Plus, see the picture in my previous post of Caroline Cossey, who posed for Playboy, was a Bond Girl in a movie and well, posed for that photo above. I think her hip to shoulder ratio is pretty darn feminine.

Yes, I realize that not all men are tall, but that doesn't necessarily mean their feet and hands shrink down proportionately to their height. I am not familiar enough with Asian society to point out the transgenders. But I bet if I WERE raised in an Asian society I would be able to tell.

The picture you posted of Caroline Cossey, yes, note how the model is twisted so that she's at an angle toward the camera that gives her the appearance of having hips and a waist. A picture of her dead straight would show she's pretty much straight up and down. No operation or medication can widen her hip width. Hence, she will still walk like a man or like her idea of what a woman walks like with exaggerated hip movements.

No way you'd pick her out as trans.

Models are posed at an angle to minimize the appearance of hips.

Sorry but I know a number of cis males with wider hips and cis females who have very slender hips. And then there are hands. I think the example of Donald Trump says it all.

 

[J842P]

If I saw them? Yeah, it's pretty easy to tell.

Not always. I mean: Caitlyn Jenner? Sure. Not everyone, though.

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People from the transgender community are well aware of the influence of Caroline Cossey. The woman captured the hearts of many and gained worldwide recognition upon her performance as a bond girl in the James Bond film, For Your Eyes Only, in 1981. She also has the distinct honour of being the first transgender to feature for Playboy magazine; Caroline achieved the enviable feat in 1981. The woman has always been very vocal about her support for the LGBT community.

More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s-caroline-cossey_us_575b03dce4b0e39a28ad822e

Caroline Cossey is also intersex, though, having a more extreme variant of Klinefelter's with a XXXY genotype.

 

[JonA]

It's really hard to find a transsexual or transgender camping. That doesn't tend to be their thing.

It's really hard to "find a transsexual or transgender" doing anything (regardless of what "their thing" happens to be) because less than 1% of the population is actually transsexual/gender.

In a small town, one could easily live their whole life never meeting such a person and even in a larger city - without being involved in the lifestyle (such as LGBT activism) - it's possible to die having never knowingly met a transsexual/gender person.

 

[Bronzeage]

It's really hard to find a transsexual or transgender camping. That doesn't tend to be their thing.

It's really hard to "find a transsexual or transgender" doing anything (regardless of what "their thing" happens to be) because less than 1% of the population is actually transsexual/gender.

In a small town, one could easily live their whole life never meeting such a person and even in a larger city - without being involved in the lifestyle (such as LGBT activism) - it's possible to die having never knowingly met a transsexual/gender person.

I live in a metropolitan(it sounds really strange when I say that) area of about 600K people and I know four people who transitioned from one sex to the other, all the way to gender reassignment surgery. I could encounter many more a day and have no idea.

Warning: <possible urban myth>
There once was a state operated charity hospital in Baton Rouge, named for Governor Earl Long. It was used as a teaching hospital by the LSU School of Medicine. That much is certain.

This was long before transgender issues had been taken up as a battle cry of conservatives and it was possible to receive a diagnosis of transgenderism. The remedy for this is gender reassignment surgery. If a person was on Social Security disability because their incorrectly assigned gender made it impossible for them to function in the work place, Medicaid would pay for the surgery. Baton Rouge became the sexual reassignment center of the US. Part of the treatment is starting hormone therapy and living as a woman or man, whichever is the goal, for a full year. If this works out, surgery was put on the schedule. This mean, at any time, there would be a dozen, maybe several dozen people who came to Baton Rouge to live as the opposite sex, while waiting for approval for their reassignment.

Earl K. Long Hospital no longer exists. The person who told me this story was an employee(not medical) of the hospital at the time. I've never been able to confirm the details, but if true, it would explain a lot about this city.

 

[credoconsolans]

Yes, I realize that not all men are tall, but that doesn't necessarily mean their feet and hands shrink down proportionately to their height. I am not familiar enough with Asian society to point out the transgenders. But I bet if I WERE raised in an Asian society I would be able to tell.

The picture you posted of Caroline Cossey, yes, note how the model is twisted so that she's at an angle toward the camera that gives her the appearance of having hips and a waist. A picture of her dead straight would show she's pretty much straight up and down. No operation or medication can widen her hip width. Hence, she will still walk like a man or like her idea of what a woman walks like with exaggerated hip movements.

No way you'd pick her out as trans.

Models are posed at an angle to minimize the appearance of hips.

Sorry but I know a number of cis males with wider hips and cis females who have very slender hips. And then there are hands. I think the example of Donald Trump says it all.

Um, no. Their body width may be wide at that point but their pelvic girdle is a completely different shape. My last BF had wide 'hips' but he didn't walk like a woman either because he was a man.

There is always a giveaway. They think they can 'pass' and to most people they can. But there are some of us a little more alert than others.

Trump's hands may be small...for a man. Not for a woman.

Don't know what else to tell you. Some of us can. My gaydar is pretty good as well. Once I even shocked myself. I was watching the Olympics on TV and I noticed this diver. Pretty good looking. He was standing on the high platform about to dive. Then he reached back to adjust his speedo. BING!! My gaydar went off. Just on that one little movement. I didn't even know the diver, had heard nothing about him. Found out later, yes he was gay.

 

[Toni]

No way you'd pick her out as trans.

Models are posed at an angle to minimize the appearance of hips.

Sorry but I know a number of cis males with wider hips and cis females who have very slender hips. And then there are hands. I think the example of Donald Trump says it all.

Um, no. Their body width may be wide at that point but their pelvic girdle is a completely different shape. My last BF had wide 'hips' but he didn't walk like a woman either because he was a man.

There is always a giveaway. They think they can 'pass' and to most people they can. But there are some of us a little more alert than others.

Trump's hands may be small...for a man. Not for a woman.

Don't know what else to tell you. Some of us can. My gaydar is pretty good as well. Once I even shocked myself. I was watching the Olympics on TV and I noticed this diver. Pretty good looking. He was standing on the high platform about to dive. Then he reached back to adjust his speedo. BING!! My gaydar went off. Just on that one little movement. I didn't even know the diver, had heard nothing about him. Found out later, yes he was gay.

I know you are very special but please.

Pretty obviously, I am talking about the casual observer being able to tell. Not someone who could interpret x-rays, perform autopsies or interpret karyotype.

 

[credoconsolans]

Um, no. Their body width may be wide at that point but their pelvic girdle is a completely different shape. My last BF had wide 'hips' but he didn't walk like a woman either because he was a man.

There is always a giveaway. They think they can 'pass' and to most people they can. But there are some of us a little more alert than others.

Trump's hands may be small...for a man. Not for a woman.

Don't know what else to tell you. Some of us can. My gaydar is pretty good as well. Once I even shocked myself. I was watching the Olympics on TV and I noticed this diver. Pretty good looking. He was standing on the high platform about to dive. Then he reached back to adjust his speedo. BING!! My gaydar went off. Just on that one little movement. I didn't even know the diver, had heard nothing about him. Found out later, yes he was gay.

I know you are very special but please.

Pretty obviously, I am talking about the casual observer being able to tell. Not someone who could interpret x-rays, perform autopsies or interpret karyotype.

And I'm agreeing with you the casual observer may indeed miss it. But there some of us who aren't fooled. Might be instinct for all I know.

 

[Bronzeage]

No way you'd pick her out as trans.

Models are posed at an angle to minimize the appearance of hips.

Sorry but I know a number of cis males with wider hips and cis females who have very slender hips. And then there are hands. I think the example of Donald Trump says it all.

Um, no. Their body width may be wide at that point but their pelvic girdle is a completely different shape. My last BF had wide 'hips' but he didn't walk like a woman either because he was a man.

There is always a giveaway. They think they can 'pass' and to most people they can. But there are some of us a little more alert than others.

Trump's hands may be small...for a man. Not for a woman.

Don't know what else to tell you. Some of us can. My gaydar is pretty good as well. Once I even shocked myself. I was watching the Olympics on TV and I noticed this diver. Pretty good looking. He was standing on the high platform about to dive. Then he reached back to adjust his speedo. BING!! My gaydar went off. Just on that one little movement. I didn't even know the diver, had heard nothing about him. Found out later, yes he was gay.

Let me guess. When he hit the water, it went "swish" instead of "splash"?

 

[Toni]

I know you are very special but please.

Pretty obviously, I am talking about the casual observer being able to tell. Not someone who could interpret x-rays, perform autopsies or interpret karyotype.

And I'm agreeing with you the casual observer may indeed miss it. But there some of us who aren't fooled. Might be instinct for all I know.

I am certain that you have been 'fooled' at least once.


And I am certain that your 'special talent' is less special than that times have changed and we no longer put such a high premium on hiding who we really are.

 

[RavenSky]

Now that that's settled, I wonder if Loren ever plans to post a link to whateverthefuck he was talking about that he confused for the OP.

 

[credoconsolans]

And I'm agreeing with you the casual observer may indeed miss it. But there some of us who aren't fooled. Might be instinct for all I know.

I am certain that you have been 'fooled' at least once.


And I am certain that your 'special talent' is less special than that times have changed and we no longer put such a high premium on hiding who we really are.

There are always exceptions, but hey, I grew up 6 blocks from the gay part of town, my best friend for 15 years was gay guy and I hung out with him and his friends and his boyfriends, and I also worked six years at a very large local company whose personnel director was a gay man, who managed to hire an employee base of men who were 65% gay, 20% straight married men and 15% straight single men.

There were transsexuals, transgenders, cross dressers, lesbians, bisexuals, in great abundance in the office. We even had men fighting over other men in the copy rooms.

Guess sometimes you just pick stuff up.

 

[Toni]

I am certain that you have been 'fooled' at least once.


And I am certain that your 'special talent' is less special than that times have changed and we no longer put such a high premium on hiding who we really are.

There are always exceptions, but hey, I grew up 6 blocks from the gay part of town, my best friend for 15 years was gay guy and I hung out with him and his friends and his boyfriends, and I also worked six years at a very large local company whose personnel director was a gay man, who managed to hire an employee base of men who were 65% gay, 20% straight married men and 15% straight single men.

There were transsexuals, transgenders, cross dressers, lesbians, bisexuals, in great abundance in the office. We even had men fighting over other men in the copy rooms.

Guess sometimes you just pick stuff up.

So in an environment with a plethora of gay, bi and trans individuals, you could pick out gay, transsexual and bi individuals.

Sounds like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[credoconsolans]

There are always exceptions, but hey, I grew up 6 blocks from the gay part of town, my best friend for 15 years was gay guy and I hung out with him and his friends and his boyfriends, and I also worked six years at a very large local company whose personnel director was a gay man, who managed to hire an employee base of men who were 65% gay, 20% straight married men and 15% straight single men.

There were transsexuals, transgenders, cross dressers, lesbians, bisexuals, in great abundance in the office. We even had men fighting over other men in the copy rooms.

Guess sometimes you just pick stuff up.

So in an environment with a plethora of gay, bi and trans individuals, you could pick out gay, transsexual and bi individuals.

Sounds like shooting fish in a barrel.

No, exposure to so many LGBT over a lifetime makes it easy to spot such people in ANY crowd.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Loren also claims "the woman" probably made some sort of "Sharon Stone" movements and/or was wearing a short skirt. Neither of those assumptions are found in any of the articles either, and are not at all supported by the news reports of what did happen.

Okay, but Leslie Jones was definitely asking for it, right? I mean, she left her computer on. That's exactly the same thing as wearing a dress in church while praying. Which are both exactly like Sharon Stone in that fictitious movie.