WTF are you going on about? Israel has not been around for centuries. And bringing in ancient history is truly pointless.
No, but anti-jewish bigotry has been and that's why there are Zionists and Israel.
So where do you want to start history? May 1948?
Last October 7?
This is a very important question. Where should we start in our discussion of current events, and the roots of the current bloodshed?
If you begin on October 7th of last year then the attack came out of nowhere and nothing. But obviously it did arise out of someplace and for some reason, which is why IMO divorcing the attack from the situation in the Occupied Territories is dishonest and foolish.
If you go back 4 months, to July 2023, then our discussion should include the
rampage by Zionist settlers near Ramallah. But that, too, did not come out of nothing and nowhere. There are reasons it happened.
If you go back to May, that was when there was an exchange of fire between Israel and Gaza. The Israelis claimed to have assassinated a couple of people they claimed were militants, along with more than a dozen civilians. Apparently there were reasons the Israelis decided to commit multiple murders in a place outside Israel's borders. Obviously that sort of thing, and the deaths of ordinary people going about their everyday lives, fuels the fighting.
The question of where to begin a discussion of the conflict is going to heavily influence why we think it is happening, which will in turn affect how we think it might be resolved.
Here's the thing. Israel and Zionists are a product of the centuries of anti-jewish bigotry, especially the mid 20th century. That aspect of their culture isn't going away just because you now think that they're European intruders. Zionists aren't a representative sample of Jewish people, much less humans over all. They're, by and large, the fight or die because surrender or flight aren't options anymore types.
Tom
Then the path to peace leads through Israel having defensible borders and NOT continuing to put its people in harm's way in those illegal settlements. If the goal is security, then ffs Israel needs to keep its civilians inside the boundaries the Palestinians and Israelis agreed were the borders of the State of Israel, and get onboard with a Two State solution.
The path to peace takes
everyone to a more secure and prosperous future. If you want peace, you have to be willing to share the prosperity, not just grab all the shit you can get your hands on. And you have to oppose those who seek to deny security and prosperity to others.
If you want peace, don't let the extremists and the assholes control the agenda.