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That Tik Tok ranter is great.

If Steve Mnuchin buys Tik Tok he will get booted for sure.
 
That Tik Tok ranter is great.
The ginger? Seemed pretty unhinged.
A lot of mistakes happen in warfare. Militaries have done air strikes on their own units, including Israeli and US militaries. So why is it so impossible to think these vehicles were identified as hostile by accident?

If Steve Mnuchin buys Tik Tok he will get booted for sure.
Maybe Elon Musk can waste some more of his money.
 
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...workers-systematically-car-by-car-2024-04-03/
 
It is quite obvious that none of you even know what "carpet bomb" means. Israel doesn't even have aircraft capable of carpet bombing.

carpet-bomb​

verb

car·pet-bomb ˈkär-pət-ˌbäm

variants or carpet bomb
carpet-bombed or carpet bombed; carpet-bombing or carpet bombing; carpet-bombs or carpet bombs
transitive verb
1
: to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)
How is it not???
1) Carpet bombing involves dropping a long string of bombs. That's the realm of heavy bombers, not attack aircraft.

2) Your evidence doesn't show anything remotely like uniform devastation.
I don't know. That devastation in those photos looks pretty uniform. Not to mention you don't need a lot of bombs to level an area when the bombs are 2000 pounds each.

Also adding your own definition to the accepted dictionary definition is not cool.
Look more carefully, those shots all have lots of buildings that are still there.

But when you blow a tunnel you'll cause problems for any building whose foundation got compromised from the collapse.
 
He seems to think there already was a Two State solution in place. You seem to want him to go on believing it even though you know that no such thing existed.
It's not a true two-state

Finally!

You are finally acknowledging there was no Two State solution that had been implemented at some point.

Now, are you ready to discuss the benefits and drawbacks of a Two State solution being implemented in the future?
But it's close enough. Nothing that Israel is currently being blamed for was happening at the time.

Did Egypt and Jordan force them to fight?
 
Biden has been such a disappointment lately. He started out strong, but is now afraid of the Islamists and their useful idiots in Michigan and elsewhere.
Had US greenlit the Rafah invasion, this war might have been over by now. Or at least nearly over.
Only if they invaded Rafah, the IDF would have destroyed the remaining 75% of tunnels and the remaining 65% of Hamas... except the dudes running the show outside of the country.

It is six months later! Netanyahu was given a limited blank check, not an unlimited no questions asked one. They have to take the fight to Hamas, but the siege has to end. I get that this is far from convenient militarily.
 
It is quite obvious that none of you even know what "carpet bomb" means. Israel doesn't even have aircraft capable of carpet bombing.

carpet-bomb​

verb

car·pet-bomb ˈkär-pət-ˌbäm

variants or carpet bomb
carpet-bombed or carpet bombed; carpet-bombing or carpet bombing; carpet-bombs or carpet bombs
transitive verb
1
: to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)
How is it not???
1) Carpet bombing involves dropping a long string of bombs. That's the realm of heavy bombers, not attack aircraft.

2) Your evidence doesn't show anything remotely like uniform devastation.
I don't know. That devastation in those photos looks pretty uniform. Not to mention you don't need a lot of bombs to level an area when the bombs are 2000 pounds each.

Also adding your own definition to the accepted dictionary definition is not cool.
Look more carefully, those shots all have lots of buildings that are still there.

But when you blow a tunnel you'll cause problems for any building whose foundation got compromised from the collapse.
It wasn't carpet bombed. Words get tossed around in times like these without thought to holding back on hyperbole. But a lot of Gaza is in ruins. Not all of it, not half of it, but a sizeable chunk.
 
He seems to think there already was a Two State solution in place. You seem to want him to go on believing it even though you know that no such thing existed.
It's not a true two-state

Finally!

You are finally acknowledging there was no Two State solution that had been implemented at some point.

Now, are you ready to discuss the benefits and drawbacks of a Two State solution being implemented in the future?
But it's close enough.

No, it really isn’t.

You’ve been using that dodge for decades. I’m not surprised you’re still trying to hold on to it. But you know perfectly well what happened that one time a Two State solution was in the works.


Nothing that Israel is currently being blamed for was happening at the time.

Did Egypt and Jordan force them to fight?
You make it sound like the Zionist terrorists in the Irgun and Lehii who bombed and shot up markets, hotels, trains, etc., and the ones who created Plan Dalet, and David Ben Gurion who gave it the green light, didn’t start that fight.

Are people targeted for terrorism allowed to fight back, or are they not?

Anyway, it appears you know there was no Two State solution that was already tried. Small steps.
 
Had US greenlit the Rafah invasion, this war might have been over by now. Or at least nearly over.
I doubt that! And im a firm Israel supporter.
Rafah is the last refuge for Hamas battalions and for Hamas Gaza-based leadership.
Taking those battalions out as an organized fighting force and destroying Hamas infrastructure there would go a long way toward ending the war. Look at ISIS - they are still active as a ragtag terrorist group, but their abilities have been severely curtailed when they no longer controlled territory. The attack on that concert venue in Russia wasn't even "main" ISIS but the Khorasan offshoot.
All this will be even more true if the leadership figures like Sinwar get killed or captured. Not to mention that the same holds for other groups fighting with Hamas like Islamic Jihad and PFLP. They are no doubt hiding in Rafah as well.
 
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Look at all those buildings in Berlin that are still there.
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I count two that seem relatively intact. AFAIK there was a lot more destruction in Berlin than Gaza.

That said, invasion of Berlin was necessary, as was destroying the Nazi government of Germany. Same thing with Hamas.
 
Only if they invaded Rafah, the IDF would have destroyed the remaining 75% of tunnels and the remaining 65% of Hamas... except the dudes running the show outside of the country.
I think Israel has destroyed far more than just 1/4 of the tunnels. Where the tunnel network is still mostly intact though is Rafah. Where Hamas (and those of other allied groups) units are located.is Rafah. Where the Gaza-based leadership is hiding out is Rafah. There is no real alternative to invading Rafah.

It is six months later!
It may be long compared to other Israel-Gaza conflicts, but it is short for a war generally speaking. How long is Russia-Ukraine war going for? What about Syrian civil war? How long was the fight against the ISIS Caliphate?
Netanyahu was given a limited blank check, not an unlimited no questions asked one. They have to take the fight to Hamas, but the siege has to end. I get that this is far from convenient militarily.
US is right now urging Israel not to invade Rafah, i.e. "take the fight to Hamas". That's why the war has entered something of a stalemate.
And what do you mean by "siege"? Israel just opened another crossing (Erez) to better supply the North. And note, the supply crisis in the North is only due to the fact that 400k Gazans refused the IDF orders to evacuate south of Wadi Gaza. Those who heeded the order have had access to much more food and other supplies.
 

He’s not as funny as he used to be. He seems to be more bent on hammering the Biden administration, helping Trump. He’s becoming just a slight more funny version of RFK.


I think you are remembering him wrong. He always hammered Democrats in precisely the same way. He was merciless with Clinton. He hammers on the Biden administration, because sometimes it becomes a nail for his wit. And so is RFK. The man is a comedian who specializes in political satire, not a shill for Democrats or a journalist.
 
Look more carefully, those shots all have lots of buildings that are still there.

But when you blow a tunnel you'll cause problems for any building whose foundation got compromised from the collapse.
It wasn't carpet bombed. Words get tossed around in times like these without thought to holding back on hyperbole. But a lot of Gaza is in ruins. Not all of it, not half of it, but a sizeable chunk.
That I will agree with. Hamas was everywhere through Gaza, taking out the tunnels caused an awful lot of damage. But a Hamas tunnel is unquestionably a military target. The polls show the people continue to believe it was the right choice, though.
 
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