Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[ZiprHead]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

 

[Emily Lake]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

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Because religious zealots who engage in terrorist actions have proven themselves to be fair governors of their people and support democracy and liberty?

Do you actually think that Hamas is going to become a bastion of freedom and sustainability if they succeed in genociding the entire Israeli population? Or do you think that palestinians are going to somehow force democracy into place and vote hamas out, and hamas will meekly concede to the wishes of the people?

Because my money is on them ruling like afghanistan and iran.

 

[laughing dog]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

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Because religious zealots who engage in terrorist actions have proven themselves to be fair governors of their people and support democracy and liberty?

The irony is that aptly describes the ultra-orthodox right in Israel.

Do you actually think that Hamas is going to become a bastion of freedom and sustainability if they succeed in genociding the entire Israeli population? Or do you think that palestinians are going to somehow force democracy into place and vote hamas out, and hamas will meekly concede to the wishes of the people?

Because my money is on them ruling like afghanistan and iran.

You missed the point. It is either delusional or mendacious to claim the gov’t of Israel cares about Gazans or that it will oversee Gaza with wisdom as Dr Z claims.

No one is suggesting Gazans will become paragons of democracy or that they will obliterate Israel. Those are straw men.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Comparing Israel’s situation to that of Ukraine is breathtaking. Consider my break taken!

I mean, to begin with (there could be much more to say), Gaza and Hamas in no way resemble Russia and Putin. Again, there could be much more to say, but why bother? This is simply daft.

A much better comparison is likening Israel to Russia.

If you ignore the Hamas 7th Oct attack then you might be correct.

Yes. Ukraine never attacked Russia.

 

[Patooka]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

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Because religious zealots who engage in terrorist actions have proven themselves to be fair governors of their people and support democracy and liberty? (emphasis mine)

Do you actually think that Hamas is going to become a bastion of freedom and sustainability if they succeed in genociding the entire Israeli population? Or do you think that palestinians are going to somehow force democracy into place and vote hamas out, and hamas will meekly concede to the wishes of the people?

Because my money is on them ruling like afghanistan and iran.

Tell us you know nothing about the history of modern Israel without saying you know nothing about the history of modern day Israel.

Or Ireland

Or Timor Leste

Or South Africa

 

[DrZoidberg]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

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Because religious zealots who engage in terrorist actions have proven themselves to be fair governors of their people and support democracy and liberty?

The irony is that aptly describes the ultra-orthodox right in Israel.

Do you actually think that Hamas is going to become a bastion of freedom and sustainability if they succeed in genociding the entire Israeli population? Or do you think that palestinians are going to somehow force democracy into place and vote hamas out, and hamas will meekly concede to the wishes of the people?

Because my money is on them ruling like afghanistan and iran.

You missed the point. It is either delusional or mendacious to claim the gov’t of Israel cares about Gazans or that it will oversee Gaza with wisdom as Dr Z claims.

No one is suggesting Gazans will become paragons of democracy or that they will obliterate Israel. Those are straw men.

In all of the Middle-East the Palestinians living inside Israel are the least oppressed and most free Palestinians. That includes oppression by other Palestinians. The Palestinians living inside Israel are among the most free people and least oppressed in all of the Middle-East.

Tell me more about how I'm deluded?

 

[laughing dog]

I don't think its always antisemitism. But often when pro-Palestine supporters try arguing their case there's no arguments. There's zero attempt to understand the actions of Israel. Then its antisemitism. That's all that's left.

But most often I think its antisemetic propaganda that gets spread and passed around. When it reaches someone otherwise sensible, they might be convinced by the argument. That is still antisemitism. We would never condone anyome committing an act of hate crime, just because they didn't know any better in any other context.

There's now more antisemetic propaganda floating about, on every channel, than ever before. Failure to do due diligence and think critically about it at this time, I think is inexcusable.

I niether tolerate antisemitism due to ignorance or maliciousness. Because the result is the same.

And this is perhaps the most important. Israel controlling Gaza, is at the moment, probably, the Gazan peoples best and only chance to be ruled by a power that cares about them, and offer stability, wise and non-corrupt govornence. So being pro Israel right now is also being pro Palestine. And being pro-Palestine right now, is in practice being pro-Hamas, which will only lead to endless carnage.

If you care about Palestinian civilians the best option is to support Israel

View attachment 55860

Because religious zealots who engage in terrorist actions have proven themselves to be fair governors of their people and support democracy and liberty?

The irony is that aptly describes the ultra-orthodox right in Israel.

Do you actually think that Hamas is going to become a bastion of freedom and sustainability if they succeed in genociding the entire Israeli population? Or do you think that palestinians are going to somehow force democracy into place and vote hamas out, and hamas will meekly concede to the wishes of the people?

Because my money is on them ruling like afghanistan and iran.

You missed the point. It is either delusional or mendacious to claim the gov’t of Israel cares about Gazans or that it will oversee Gaza with wisdom as Dr Z claims.

No one is suggesting Gazans will become paragons of democracy or that they will obliterate Israel. Those are straw men.

In all of the Middle-East the Palestinians living inside Israel are the least oppressed and most free Palestinians. That includes oppression by other Palestinians. The Palestinians living inside Israel are among the most free people and least oppressed in all of the Middle-East.

Tell me more about how I'm deluded?

No need, your post does not address my Israel’s caring about Gazans.