Jarhyn
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Bomb: In English, at least among the communities I run in, "they" is the pronoun that applies. "They/them/their" is what the consensus has landed on among those who wish to be able to express the idea of ambiguity. I have discussed several times and places why the singular isn't even strictly appropriate. I am quantity-ambiguous as much as I am gender-ambiguous.
As it stands, neo-pronouns, especially unsolicited ones, have a history of being used to mock people right here on these forums. So forgive me if I don't take your purpose of ignoring the offered pronouns in favor of your own as benign.
You have done nothing in this thread but whinge over the fact that language seems to you to be too changed (but nobody else beyond some people who are intent on pushing their own bespoke jargon).
Nobody here has such a conniption or issue over it*. It's not unclear or impossible. It does not create any need for a "vexing parse", because context is king here, and the most absurd part about this is that the most problematic part expressed by people with their thumbs up their ass over it are the people who object on account of the loss of the ability to force plurality into a statement, which, at least for my own sake, I also demand numerical ambiguity, and moreover I demand ambiguity over my ambiguity!
I do not want people to encode, from the address of me, that I am one person or many people. I do not want people to encode that I am male or female or that I am some third thing. If in modern English people start to use such pronouns other than "they" for the common unknown/ambiguous singular case, even then I would likely prefer they.
I don't know how to make this any more clear.
As it stands, neo-pronouns, especially unsolicited ones, have a history of being used to mock people right here on these forums. So forgive me if I don't take your purpose of ignoring the offered pronouns in favor of your own as benign.
You have done nothing in this thread but whinge over the fact that language seems to you to be too changed (but nobody else beyond some people who are intent on pushing their own bespoke jargon).
Nobody here has such a conniption or issue over it*. It's not unclear or impossible. It does not create any need for a "vexing parse", because context is king here, and the most absurd part about this is that the most problematic part expressed by people with their thumbs up their ass over it are the people who object on account of the loss of the ability to force plurality into a statement, which, at least for my own sake, I also demand numerical ambiguity, and moreover I demand ambiguity over my ambiguity!
I do not want people to encode, from the address of me, that I am one person or many people. I do not want people to encode that I am male or female or that I am some third thing. If in modern English people start to use such pronouns other than "they" for the common unknown/ambiguous singular case, even then I would likely prefer they.
I don't know how to make this any more clear.
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