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Jimmy Higgins said:
Polls not looking good. By a clear 2 to 1 margin (64 to 36), Americans believe that it was time to change the speakers, half of the remaining Americans believed that the speakers should only be replaced if they are shown not to work and have tried rewiring them. Only 12% believed that a subwoofer should be purchased and installed.
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The problem is that with a tweeter, a woofer and a driver you have to use active crossovers, and those seem to be in short supply.
 
Gospel said:
I would have thought that Trump's judicial appointments and the subsequent overturning of Roe v. Wade would mobilize voters. Yet, surprisingly, we have a Republican majority.
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It did and it didn't. The Democrats actually had a record result for a mid-term and technically lost the house because the NY Democrats fucked up and got stupid greedy with their gerrymandering.
 
With the removal of the Speaker, this will lead to some interesting questions, such as what the heck do you do next?! Does anyone know? Is there a rulebook with a lot of dust that requires to be opened and read?

Looking online, I think control goes to a Speaker Pro Tempura, ie... a large fish takes over. So they need to wheel in a large tank or something.

ETA: A couple votes away from losing the Speakership... maybe forever, possibly for an hour. I'm leaning towards forever... if they don't gag Gaetz and drag him out and put him in the Capitol dungeon.
 
My guess is that the next days will be filled with another 14 or so votes to reinstall Kev in the speakership.
There are probably 5-10 gullible Democrats to whom he can promise undeliverable things in order to get back his lollipop.

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The House has no speaker. This is the first time this has happened. What happens next? My sources inform me that Tempura isn't actually a type of fish. So I have no idea.
 
Elixir said:
My guess is that the next days will be filled with another 14 or so votes to reinstall Kev in the speakership.
There are probably 5-10 gullible Democrats to whom he can promise undeliverable things in order to get back his lollipop.

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The trouble is, there are no negotiations to be had. McCarthy can't renegotiate with the GOP terror minority and there is no way in heck the Dems will likely go for him after his shitting on them on Sunday on TV, the impeachment, and the whole Jan 6th thing. I think McCarthy is done. Who is next? Who would want to be Gaetz dog on a leash?

To make matters worse, how in the heck is a budget deal ever going to happen now?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
The House has no speaker. This is the first time this has happened. What happens next? My sources inform me that Tempura isn't actually a type of fish. So I have no idea.
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"Tempura" comes from the Latin phrase Quatuor Tempora, meaning "Four times". So I think we now must now re-appoint McCarthy and remove him from the position for three additional cycles, then fry him in a light egg batter and serve him with rice and optional soy sauce.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Elixir said:
My guess is that the next days will be filled with another 14 or so votes to reinstall Kev in the speakership.
There are probably 5-10 gullible Democrats to whom he can promise undeliverable things in order to get back his lollipop.

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The trouble is, there are no negotiations to be had. McCarthy can't renegotiate with the GOP terror minority and there is no way in heck the Dems will likely go for him after his shitting on them on Sunday on TV, the impeachment, and the whole Jan 6th thing. I think McCarthy is done. Who is next? Who would want to be Gaetz dog on a leash?

To make matters worse, how in the heck is a budget deal ever going to happen now?
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And McCarthy is done.
 
So, back to the Speakership. There are now a list of leading candidates. Here are the pros and cons.

Steve Scalise
Pros - Bullet-proof / indestructible / pretty much a clone of McCarthy
Cons - Could potentially be more interested in governance than helping to propel Matt Gaetz's career

Elise Stefanik
Pros - Chameleon. Before Trump, she was a reasonably moderate politician. But now she acts like she invented MAGA as a self-help system.
Cons - Too new. She lacks the experience required to lead a bunch of far right wing sociopaths.
Unknowns - She is a woman. This can likely both help and hurt her.

Jim Jordan
Pros - He has asshole government cred up the wing wang. This dumbass has been acting like a dumbass and saying dumbass things for a long time. Kind of a Teabagging Original.
Cons - Notably more evidence suggesting he helped enable the molestation of boys back when he was a wrestling coach than President Biden committed any crimes.

Patrick McHenry
Pros - Currently in charge of the House.
Cons - Helped negotiate that debt ceiling deal with the White House, so he is a non-starter with the Gaetz wing. Wears bow-ties.

Tom Cole
Pros - At 74, he is old enough (barely) to remember when the GOP weren't a sorry collection of hyper-partisan asshats.
Cons - As a supporter of the last three failures of GOP Speakers, it indicates he keeps backing losers.

Byron Donalds
Pro - Why the heck not? A rising star in the House, Donalds has made a name for himself in the GOP caucus by being a black person.
Con - Why the heck? A slight lack of experience or being remotely capable of raising money like a Scalise or McCarthy.
 
Who is Kevin Hern?
  • Hern is a representative from Texas or Oklahoma? One of those center US states.
  • Hern was born at a US Airforce base and is the son of a F-15 fighter jet and A-10 Warthog.
  • In the later 90s, Hern sold out his family's farm and way of life and shifted to a life making money off the backs of underpaid teenagers.
  • Hern was first elected to the House in 2018 after campaigning in whatever state he lives in on xenophobia, family values, and defending America from communism.
  • Has violated the fuck out of the Stock Act.
 
Scalise did put his name up.
 
Genesis Chapters 18 and 19 said:
Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only twenty righteous can be found in the Majority Caucus?” He answered, “I will not do it if I find twenty there.” Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only ten can be found there?” He said, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.” Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only five can be found there?” He answered, “For the sake of five, I will not destroy it.”...

The two angels arrived at Capitol Hill in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.” But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the Majority Caucus—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing..."

“Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door....

The angels said to Lot "We are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”...

Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on the Majority Caucus and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.
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Reheated by the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
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Jim Jordan has denied he knew about sex abuse on Ohio State wrestling team. Here’s who says he knew, and who says he didn’t

Several people who were affiliated with the Ohio State University's wrestling program say Champaign County Republican Rep. Jim Jordan knew that team doctor Richard Strauss sexually molested wrestlers while Jordan was an assistant coach in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Jordan denies knowledge...
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“Jim Jordan called me crying, groveling… begging me to go against my brother…That’s the kind of cover-up that’s going on there,” said DiSabato
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Reheated by the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
www.cleveland.com

Jim Jordan has denied he knew about sex abuse on Ohio State wrestling team. Here’s who says he knew, and who says he didn’t

Several people who were affiliated with the Ohio State University's wrestling program say Champaign County Republican Rep. Jim Jordan knew that team doctor Richard Strauss sexually molested wrestlers while Jordan was an assistant coach in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Jordan denies knowledge...
www.cleveland.com www.cleveland.com

“Jim Jordan called me crying, groveling… begging me to go against my brother…That’s the kind of cover-up that’s going on there,” said DiSabato
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I forget which scandal that is.
Is that the coach Sandusky who was banging kids in the team showers, and everyone knew but wouldn't talk about it because it would interfere with fundraising?
Tom
 
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