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Happy Juneteenth one and all! Let's celebrate the fulfilment of our Independence as a nation. (It's just 156 years late.)
 
Happy Juneteenth one and all! Let's celebrate the fulfilment of our Independence as a nation. (It's just 156 years late.)

A holiday to celebrate the institution of legal barriers to a specific form of slavery? I guess that's as good an excuse for celebration as many others we follow, hollow though it rings for those still oppressed.
 
Happy Juneteenth one and all! Let's celebrate the fulfilment of our Independence as a nation. (It's just 156 years late.)

A holiday to celebrate the institution of legal barriers to a specific form of slavery? I guess that's as good an excuse for celebration as many others we follow, hollow though it rings for those still oppressed.

Yeah but it stands as the end of the very worst part of our nation's history. From what I've been hearing it's always been special to the descendants of slaves. Referring to it as just a specific form of slavery minimizes how bad actual slavery was. And celebrating the day it was invalidated allows us to more easily recognize oppression wherever it still exists. If we celebrate anything about our nation's history we should celebrate that.
 
I imagine the change we can see when schools are forced to acknowledge slavery and teach about this because it is a federal holiday. Including how the emapncipation proclaimation only freed some of the slaves, not all of them (Looking at you, Maryland). The more we teach, the more we acknowledge, the more we will all understand and the more we will be able to repair.
 
I'm thrilled, to be honest.

No, neither our country or the world at large is perfect but we should all remember:

Never let perfection be the enemy of what is good. Let's celebrate what we can!
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The only objection to making Juneteenth a federal holiday had come from Republicans, some of whom claimed they objected because they found the official name of the holiday — Juneteenth National Independence Day — divisive.

“I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called ‘Juneteenth National Independence Day’ but rather, ‘Juneteenth National Emancipation [or Freedom or otherwise] Day,’ Rep. Chip Roy of Texas said in a statement. “This name needlessly divides our nation on a matter that should instead bring us together by creating a separate Independence Day based on the color of one’s skin.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/republicans-vote-against-juneteenth-close-offices

I guess he thinks The Fourth of July is all that is needed?
 
The only objection to making Juneteenth a federal holiday had come from Republicans, some of whom claimed they objected because they found the official name of the holiday — Juneteenth National Independence Day — divisive.

“I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called ‘Juneteenth National Independence Day’ but rather, ‘Juneteenth National Emancipation [or Freedom or otherwise] Day,’ Rep. Chip Roy of Texas said in a statement. “This name needlessly divides our nation on a matter that should instead bring us together by creating a separate Independence Day based on the color of one’s skin.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/republicans-vote-against-juneteenth-close-offices

I guess he thinks The Fourth of July is all that is needed?

They just refuse to recognize that the Fourth of July (also known as Independence Day) was never meant to celebrate the independence of black people.
 
Happy Juneteenth one and all! Let's celebrate the fulfilment of our Independence as a nation. (It's just 156 years late.)

A holiday to celebrate the institution of legal barriers to a specific form of slavery? I guess that's as good an excuse for celebration as many others we follow, hollow though it rings for those still oppressed.

Yeah but it stands as the end of the very worst part of our nation's history. From what I've been hearing it's always been special to the descendants of slaves. Referring to it as just a specific form of slavery minimizes how bad actual slavery was. And celebrating the day it was invalidated allows us to more easily recognize oppression wherever it still exists. If we celebrate anything about our nation's history we should celebrate that.

You're right - I don't mean to minimize the importance of change wrought by the news of abolition.
(June 19 wasn't the day of the Emancipation Proclamation, it was the day, some two years later (1865), that news of its passage finally reached Galveston Texas).
I am just wary that it is "used" by those who would declare that we have overcome racism and its attendant oppression.

Still, you (and Toni) are right about not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
 
The only objection to making Juneteenth a federal holiday had come from Republicans, some of whom claimed they objected because they found the official name of the holiday — Juneteenth National Independence Day — divisive.

“I could not vote for this bill, however, because the holiday should not be called ‘Juneteenth National Independence Day’ but rather, ‘Juneteenth National Emancipation [or Freedom or otherwise] Day,’ Rep. Chip Roy of Texas said in a statement. “This name needlessly divides our nation on a matter that should instead bring us together by creating a separate Independence Day based on the color of one’s skin.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/republicans-vote-against-juneteenth-close-offices

I guess he thinks The Fourth of July is all that is needed?

They just refuse to recognize that the Fourth of July (also known as Independence Day) was never meant to celebrate the independence of black people.

Right, they are aware of it, but there is a narrative that they must support among their voting base of White victimhood and so they'd call this reverse racialism, like Underseer used to point out, or even get into the White Replacement narrative like some conservative talking heads now do. Saying he objects to a particular word is a sneaky way to try to say he is for the concept but then from the other side of his mouth support the status quo normalization of White history and narratives.
 
The remnants of slavery are still here.

The number of young black men killed or in prison are a remnant of slavery.

Pockets of poverty in every major city filled with people of color are a remnant of slavery.

Slavery is not here.

But it is not gone yet either.
 
Looking at Congress.gov | Library of Congress I find a lot of hits for speeches about Juneteenth. Let's see how the vote went.

The original House version:
H.R.1320 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Juneteenth National Independence Day Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
by Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 02/25/2021)
It had 173 cosponsors, 90 original, including 2 Republicans. They mostly signed on last March, though some of them signed on recently.

Its corresponding Senate version:
S.475 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Juneteenth National Independence Day Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
by Sen. Markey, Edward J. [D-MA] (Introduced 02/25/2021)
It had 60 cosponsors, 54 original, including (my count) 18 Republicans.
On June 15, it passed in the Senate by unanimous consent.

Also in the Senate,
S.Res.269 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): A resolution designating June 19, 2021, as "Juneteenth Independence Day" in recognition of June 19, 1865, the date on which news of the end of slavery reached the slaves in the Southwestern States. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
by Sen. Cornyn, John [R-TX] (Introduced 06/15/2021)
It had 54 cosponsors, 53 original, including (my count) 25 Republicans.
It passed in the Senate.

Not long afterward, in the House,
H.Res.480 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Recognizing June 19, 2021, as this year's observance of the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
by Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 06/16/2021)
It had 127 cosponsors, all original, including (my count) 3 Republicans.
It went nowhere.
 
Then this procedural vote, for the House to vote on the Senate version:
H.Res.479 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Providing for consideration of the bill (S. 475) to amend title 5, United States Code, to designate Juneteenth National Independence Day as a legal public holiday. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
by Rep. Scanlon, Mary Gay [D-PA-5] (Introduced 06/16/2021)
It had no cosponsors.
However, it passed in this vote on June 16.
D: Y 214, nv 5
R: N 208, nv 3
Total: Y 214, N 208, nv 8

Weird that House Republicans were unwilling to go ahead with what their Senate colleagues had agreed to.

The Senate version:
S.475 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Juneteenth National Independence Day Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The House voted on it on June 16, later that day.
D: Y 220
R: Y 195, N 14, nv 2
Total: Y 415, N 14, nv 2

But these Republicans nevertheless voted for the bill itself.

The no votes were from Biggs AZ, Brooks AL, Clyde GA, DesJarlais TN, Gosar AZ, Jackson TX, LaMalfa CA, Massie KY, McClintock CA, Norman SC, Rogers AL, Rosendale MT, Roy TX, Tiffany WI

The non-voters were both Crenshaw TX, McHenry NC

Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, and Marjorie Taylor Greene all voted for it.


It was signed by President Biden the next day, June 17.
 
Happy Juneteenth one and all! Let's celebrate the fulfilment of our Independence as a nation. (It's just 156 years late.)

A holiday to celebrate the institution of legal barriers to a specific form of slavery? I guess that's as good an excuse for celebration as many others we follow, hollow though it rings for those still oppressed.

True, but definitely worth elevating it in the collective consciousness and not leaving it buried out of sight of white people. It's a small thing, but sometimes small things reverberate when they're held up higher.
 
If your motto is to not celebrate liberation until everyone on earth is liberated then you're motto is only the wicked may celebrate. As long as humans walk this earth (or walk in general) there will always be oppression in one form or another. That's not a pessimist speaking. Its a grown up.
 
The left seems concerned that teaching about the existence of Juneteenth is 'illegal'. This Tweet from The Daily Show:
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1406219669401485312

The Daily Show


@TheDailyShow




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Happy Juneteenth! The first U.S. holiday that's illegal to teach about in 15 states.

Joy Reid thinks it's illegal to teach about it, too:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/juneteenth-joy-reid-red-states-slavery-republicans

"While Juneteenth will now be commemorated nationwide, there's a catch," Reid told viewers. "In some red states, it could soon be illegal to teach what the holiday is all about. That's because Republicans in state legislatures in a dozen states are aiming to dictate how historical and modern racism in America are taught."

She then singled out Texas and its Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, showing a Texas Tribune headline onscreen that read, "Texas ‘critical race theory’ bill limiting teaching of current events signed into law."
However, the article that Reid cites stated the bill mandates students be taught the history of white supremacy and slavery.
"It also mandates that students be taught ‘the history of white supremacy, including but not limited to the institution of slavery, the eugenics movement, and the Ku Klux Klan, and the ways in which it is morally wrong,’" the Tribune reported.
 
The left seems concerned that teaching about the existence of Juneteenth is 'illegal'. This Tweet from The Daily Show:
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1406219669401485312

The Daily Show


@TheDailyShow




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14h

Happy Juneteenth! The first U.S. holiday that's illegal to teach about in 15 states.

Joy Reid thinks it's illegal to teach about it, too:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/juneteenth-joy-reid-red-states-slavery-republicans

"While Juneteenth will now be commemorated nationwide, there's a catch," Reid told viewers. "In some red states, it could soon be illegal to teach what the holiday is all about. That's because Republicans in state legislatures in a dozen states are aiming to dictate how historical and modern racism in America are taught."

She then singled out Texas and its Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, showing a Texas Tribune headline onscreen that read, "Texas ‘critical race theory’ bill limiting teaching of current events signed into law."
However, the article that Reid cites stated the bill mandates students be taught the history of white supremacy and slavery.
"It also mandates that students be taught ‘the history of white supremacy, including but not limited to the institution of slavery, the eugenics movement, and the Ku Klux Klan, and the ways in which it is morally wrong,’" the Tribune reported.

Are you saying that lefty media types are purveyors of lies and misinformation? *shocking*
 
I heard some African American firecrackers and Jewish space lasers going off before.

Happy Holidays everyone!
 
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