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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

barbos said:
That's a lie. Unless you accept that both EU and US have repressive legislations.
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I can't speak for the EU but I agree the US has some regressive legislation. Most all of it comes from the Republicans who worship Trump who is himself a Russian stooge.
 
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@barbos you implied that The Ukraine turned it's back on Russia because of US influance/propaganda.
I call bullshit on that. ALL the former Soviet stetes FEAR Russia. And want to join NATO. The invasions of Chechnya and the Ukraine only increase the fear and rush to the west. No US influance needed.
There was an old saying during the VietNam protests. "It's like grabing sand. The tighter your grip, the more slips through your fingers."
Russia is loosing aliais on it's own. And is trying to get them back by FORCE.
 
unapologetic said:
What Russia Doesn’t Want You to Know About Your History


@barbos you implied that The Ukraine turned it's back on Russia because of US influance/propaganda.
I call bullshit on that. ALL the former Soviet stetes FEAR Russia. And want to join NATO. The invasions of Chechnya and the Ukraine only increase the fear and rush to the west. No US influance needed.
There was an old saying during the VietNam protests. "It's like grabing sand. The tighter your grip, the more slips through your fingers."
Russia is loosing aliais on it's own. And is trying to get them back by FORCE.
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Totally agree. Russia has no one to blame but itself. Putin was quoted once as saying that he wants a border with Ukraine that is similar to what the US and Canada have. A friendly border. Well dip shit, here's a hint! If you want friendly border countries, don't bully and bomb the shit out of them! Don't kidnap their children and bomb their infrastructure. Ironically, before Russia invaded, Ukraine was really split in half. About half the country wanted to go west, the other half was mostly Russian speaking and preferred the east. That has totally swapped now. Most of that country hates Russia now.
 
unapologetic said:
What Russia Doesn’t Want You to Know About Your History


@barbos you implied that The Ukraine turned it's back on Russia because of US influance/propaganda.
I call bullshit on that. ALL the former Soviet stetes FEAR Russia. And want to join NATO. The invasions of Chechnya and the Ukraine only increase the fear and rush to the west. No US influance needed.
There was an old saying during the VietNam protests. "It's like grabing sand. The tighter your grip, the more slips through your fingers."
Russia is loosing aliais on it's own. And is trying to get them back by FORCE.
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Utter bullshit, your post and your video.
There was nothing "alleged" about NATO promise not to expand into the East. It is a matter of record. And it is according recent legal research by law scholars is binding! So it is as good as signed and passed through all the parliaments.
Moreover, none of this scary Russia BS was even talked about until 2022, that's just fact.

Answer my question about Mayor of Tbilisi statement about NATO officials forcing Georgia to attack Russia!
 
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Meanwhile, prominent Maidan nazi
Andriy Parubiy was assassinated in Ukraine. In later years he was not very active, though.
 
barbos said:
unapologetic said:
What Russia Doesn’t Want You to Know About Your History


@barbos you implied that The Ukraine turned it's back on Russia because of US influance/propaganda.
I call bullshit on that. ALL the former Soviet stetes FEAR Russia. And want to join NATO. The invasions of Chechnya and the Ukraine only increase the fear and rush to the west. No US influance needed.
There was an old saying during the VietNam protests. "It's like grabing sand. The tighter your grip, the more slips through your fingers."
Russia is loosing aliais on it's own. And is trying to get them back by FORCE.
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Utter bullshit, your post and your video.
There was nothing "alleged" about NATO promise not to expand into the East.
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NATO expands only by request of non-members to become members.
barbos said:
It is a matter of record. And it is according recent legal research by law scholars is binding! So it is as good as signed and passed through all the parliaments.
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"as good as" = "not".

Not signed; Not passed through parliaments.

Not even "as good as", unless you are deliberately disingenuous.
barbos said:
Moreover, none of this scary Russia BS was even talked about until 2022, that's just fact.
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Sure. Nobody even talked about it, even after the annexation of Crimea. It didn't even get a single mention from anyone for eight fucking years. Not a one. :rolleyesa:
barbos said:
Answer my question about Mayor of Tbilisi statement about NATO officials forcing Georgia to attack Russia!
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Fuck your questions. Go JAQ off somewhere else. You have no right to demand answers from anyone about anything.
 
bilby said:
NATO expands only by request of non-members to become members.
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Yes, US State Departments orders the puppets they just installed to make such request.
bilby said:
"as good as" = "not".

Not signed; Not passed through parliaments.

Not even "as good as", unless you are deliberately disingenuous.
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Legal scholars disagree with you.
And even you yourself disagree with yourself each time you bring up Budapest Memorandum.
bilby said:
Sure. Nobody even talked about it, even after the annexation of Crimea. It didn't even get a single mention from anyone for eight fucking years. Not a one
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Yes, no one talked about that after Crimea.

bilby said:
Fuck your questions.
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Fuck your nonanswers.
 
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Polish border control sign in Ukrainian warning about random checks for nazi tattoos.
You can keep your Bandera tattoos under underwear for now.
 
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barbos said:
Polish border control sign in Ukrainian warning about random checks for nazi tattoos.
You can keep your Bandera tattoos under underwear for now.
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I warned you before that anything posted in cyrillic without a translation would be deleted.
 
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