How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

And your invasion has consolidated and expanded NATO.

It absolutely did not. When it's done NATO won't exist.

 

[Elixir]

You've created a country that hates Russia.

Nope, you have created a region of Russia which hates US.

Yeah, Moscow Oblast.

Poor babs… still trying to pretend that the Country to which they promised and signed a treaty guaranteeing autonomy and sovereignty, is not a country at all.
Pootey must think the rest of the world is also that stupid.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I congratulate Russia on annexing Ukraine.

Oh wait...

 

[Elixir]

And your invasion has consolidated and expanded NATO.

It absolutely did not. When it's done NATO won't exist.

Dream on, sonny. Did you see today’s polls?

Trump support is now 33%, with 64% of all Americans saying they will never ever vote for him.
IOW, Barbos : Pootey is FUCKED.

 

[Harry Bosch]

But the Russian invasion completely pushed Ukraine westward.

Says who?
Ukraine will never be in NATO.

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday. Your country only attacks what it believes are weaker countries. If Ukraine were to sue for peace now, with no NATO membership, your country would just rearm and then attack again. There's no doubt about that. Putler's actions has forced Ukraine until a corner. Putler has strengthened NATO greatly. Большое спасибо!

 

[barbos]

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday

That guarantees war.

 

[barbos]

Your country only attacks what it believes are weaker countries

US does that. They thought they could win, that's why they attacked Russia.
Same thing happened with Hitler.
The only chance for peace is Russian win.

 

[Elixir]

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday

That guarantees war.

Lol! Riiight. Pootey gonna kick NATO butt!
We have seen how great and mighty their military is(n’t).
War will mean the end of Russia as an imperial power; the rest of the world will crush them like a bug.

 

[TV and credit cards]

But the Russian invasion completely pushed Ukraine westward.

Says who?
Ukraine will never be in NATO.

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday. Your country only attacks what it believes are weaker countries. If Ukraine were to sue for peace now, with no NATO membership, your country would just rearm and then attack again. There's no doubt about that. Putler's actions has forced Ukraine until a corner. Putler has strengthened NATO greatly. Большое спасибо!

Even without NATO, as long as the US has a president who's politics aren't out on the fringe and Ukraine can keep a decent man like Zelensky in office, Ukraine will rearm faster and continue to train up a professional fighting force while Russia will still struggle under sanctions. All the money it's government spends on it's military will continue to be siphoned off through corruption.

The people of Ukraine will no longer stand for a corrupt government. Russians will. They have been trained to do so by Putin to keep their heads down and not to question where tax dollars are going. All Russians want is whatever comforts their authoritarian government will afford them. For this they will keep their mouths shut.

 

[Harry Bosch]

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday

That guarantees war.

There's already a war. Peace won't come until the invaders realize that they can't win.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

All Russians want is whatever comforts their authoritarian government will afford them. For this they will keep their mouths shut.

And who would blame them. They've all lived their entire lives under despotic rule. They're rather happily enslaved.

 

[barbos]

The only chance at peace is for Ukraine to join Nato someday

That guarantees war.

There's already a war. Peace won't come until the invaders realize that they can't win.

Well, invaders are already realizing that.

 

[barbos]

Elensky fired all regional conscription officers, for corruption. All of them. I wonder if he let them keep their lamborghinis.

 

[barbos]

NATO agrees to give territory to Russia in exchange for NATO membership for the rest.
Well, I think it could work, NATO gets Western Nazistan and Russia gets the rest including Kiev.

 

[Elixir]

Nah - Russia gets Moscow Oblast, Ukraine gets the territory it was guaranteed by treaty. The rest goes free, and can apply for NATO membership. Kaliningrad is absorbed by Lithuania.
In exchange for Russia's co-operation, Moscow will not be turned into a parking lot.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Your country only attacks what it believes are weaker countries

US does that. They thought they could win, that's why they attacked Russia.

Dude, if the US attacked Russia, the Russian military response wouldn't be limited to throwing drones and missiles at Ukraine. In fact, I'd figure had the US actually attacked Russia, the war would also have been already over by now with most of the first world smoldering.... and Russia too.

 

[barbos]

Your country only attacks what it believes are weaker countries

US does that. They thought they could win, that's why they attacked Russia.

Dude, if the US attacked Russia, the Russian military response wouldn't be limited to throwing drones and missiles at Ukraine. In fact, I'd figure had the US actually attacked Russia, the war would also have been already over by now with most of the first world smoldering.... and Russia too.

Thank god there is such invention as proxy war.

 

[Elixir]

Thank god there is such invention as proxy war.

Yeah - Presidents XI and Kim are very pleased to have Russian suckers fighting their battles for them.

 

[ZiprHead]

Sarkozi admitted that Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are and should stay Russia.
Which in itself makes NATO an aggressor here, which they are.

That's cute. He also said:

Addressing the Ukraine situation, Sarkozy argued that Russian President Vladimir Putin was “wrong” to “invade” the country and failed to achieve his objective, but that he’s “not irrational” and should be approached through diplomacy.

I'm sure he'd like to take part in those negotiations so he can make another 50 million Euros.

 

[barbos]

He also said

It does not matter what else he said.
I am not his fan.