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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

No, "it" is me pointing out that the completely absurd claims you are making are completely absurd.
You are making absurd claims, not me.
We have a BBC funded research which counts russian losses as 38K dead. Half of them are Wagner convicts.
And constant stream of videos from Ukraine of people being kidnapped from the streets and sent to the front after 2 weeks.
This notion that Russia with 10x advantage in artillery with a complete air superiority somehow suffers 10 to 1 losses to ukrainians is utterly absurd. But I know where it comes from. It comes from ukrainian regime and western regimes are merely repeating this convenient bullshit. Because otherwise the whole operations would have to be stopped.
You are believing convicted liars. For fuck's sake, these motherfuckers claim shooting down more than 100% of russian missiles and in the same sentence admitting multiple targets hits. It's not a joke, they officially say things like that.
Arestovich, the former adviser to Zitler comes out and admits that Ukraine is losing badly and that he himself (Arestovich) was lying about the situation when he was in office. He admitted that he lied!

Ukraine has 400K dead or severely wounded at a minimum. And when their regime says Russia has 10 times higher losses than Ukraine they simply reverse the real ratio.



If what you say were true, that war would have no troubles getting funded.
You have an army of fucking ukrainian Rambos killing 10 times more russians with 10 times less weapons. Who in the west in their right mind would let that stop?

Russian losses are 38K dead. That's all your achievement.
You spent what? $200bil? $5mil per soldier.
Putler's greatest achievement has been his hiding of the true Russian causalities. Sadly, the war won't win until the mothers of Russia get tired of sending their children into killing fields. The Ukrainians have their backs against the wall and have no choice but to fight.
 
What business is it of one country to institute constitutional order in another country?
What business do you have in Ukraine?
They asked for our help to defend themselves from Russian aggresion and invasion.

What business your country had in Russia when you invaded Russia?
Huh???

What business UK had in Russia when they invaded us?
Huh???

Who gave you the right to invade Yugoslavia?
Who gave you the right to invade Cuba?
Who gave you the right to invade Vietnam?
Who gave you the right to invade Iraq?
Who gave you the right to invade Syria?
Who gave you the right to invade Mexico?
Who gave you the right to invade multiple countries in Central America?
Who gave you the right to install governments in Europe?
Blah, blah, blah...
 
And constant stream of videos from Ukraine of people being kidnapped from the streets and sent to the front after 2 weeks.
No, "we" don't. You may have them but it's strange you are unwilling to share this terrible activity by your opponent that would certainly bolster your argument. But you don't.
 
What business is it of one country to institute constitutional order in another country?
What business do you have in Ukraine?
What business your country had in Russia when you invaded Russia?
What business UK had in Russia when they invaded us?
Who gave you the right to invade Yugoslavia?
Who gave you the right to invade Cuba?
Who gave you the right to invade Vietnam?
Who gave you the right to invade Iraq?
Who gave you the right to invade Syria?
Who gave you the right to invade Mexico?
Who gave you the right to invade multiple countries in Central America?
Who gave you the right to install governments in Europe?
Here's another one: who gave the Hillary the right to host those Q parties at the pizza party for those aliens!
 
What business is it of one country to institute constitutional order in another country?
What business do you have in Ukraine?
What business your country had in Russia when you invaded Russia?
What business UK had in Russia when they invaded us?
Who gave you the right to invade Yugoslavia?
Who gave you the right to invade Cuba?
Who gave you the right to invade Vietnam?
Who gave you the right to invade Iraq?
Who gave you the right to invade Syria?
Who gave you the right to invade Mexico?
Who gave you the right to invade multiple countries in Central America?
Who gave you the right to install governments in Europe?
Here's another one: who gave the Hillary the right to host those Q parties at the pizza party for those aliens!
Yeah, Barbos. What's up with that?
 

Ukraine claims their hackers got into Russia's national tax system comupter network.

Cyber units of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine carried out another successful special operation on the territory of Russia - this time they attacked the tax system of the aggressor state.

During the special operation, military intelligence managed to break into one of the well-protected key central servers of the Federal Tax Service (FSS of the Russian Federation), and then into more than 2,300 of its regional servers throughout Russia, as well as in the territory of the temporarily occupied Crimea.

As a result of the cyber attack, all servers received malware.

At the same time, the Russian IT company Office.ed-it.ru, which served the Russian Federal Tax Service, was attacked in the same way.

As a result of two cyberattacks, the configuration files, which for years ensured the functioning of the extensive tax system of the Russian Federation, were completely eliminated - the entire database and its backups were destroyed.
 
Zelesky is a dead man if he does not money and does not get out of the country.
What business is it of one country to institute constitutional order in another country?
What business do you have in Ukraine?
What business your country had in Russia when you invaded Russia?
What business UK had in Russia when they invaded us?
Who gave you the right to invade Yugoslavia?
Who gave you the right to invade Cuba?
Who gave you the right to invade Vietnam?
Who gave you the right to invade Iraq?
Who gave you the right to invade Syria?
Who gave you the right to invade Mexico?
Who gave you the right to invade multiple countries in Central America?
Who gave you the right to install governments in Europe?
Here's another one: who gave the Hillary the right to host those Q parties at the pizza party for those aliens!
OK, you convinced me, Vietnam does not exist.
 
The west orchestrated the invasion by Russia??? What are YOU smoking?
The West orchestrated 2014 nazi coup.
That's not what you said. How did the west orchestrate the invasion of Ukraine by Russia?
I said what I said I said. But yes, the West certainly orchestrated that too, that was their goal.
You orchestrated 2014 coup in the hope that Russia would invade, will be repelled and then shamed into submission and west gets their 90s back.
 
And constant stream of videos from Ukraine of people being kidnapped from the streets and sent to the front after 2 weeks.
No, "we" don't. You may have them but it's strange you are unwilling to share this terrible activity by your opponent that would certainly bolster your argument. But you don't.
You don't what?
 
They asked for our help to defend themselves from Russian aggresion and invasion.
There was no "aggression" at that time. You came and overthrew Yanukovivh.

You may not aware of it but US did invade Russia at least once trying to restore constitutional "order".
literally invade with guns and all that juzz. I am not counting what you did in the 90s, but it was not nice either and you should pay for that too.
So Russia has at least one free "play" in US
UK did few times. So Russia can invade UK for free too.
 
Something is going to happen. Ukro-Regime openly admits assassination of Ilia Kiva (former Ukrainian Parliament member who left Ukraine and was in opposition in Zelesky regime) in Russia and even parade the pictures of his body.
Kiva was a colorful individual. He was an early supporter of Maidan Coup and even was a member of a Right Sector. But then went into opposition into regime and left Ukraine, he was not shy in his attacks on Ukrainian Regime.
Don't forget grenade "accident" and poisoning of Budanov's wife. Something is cooking in that dump called Ukrainian government.
 
Is there anyone here who understands American politics who can explain why the Republicans are blocking further support of Ukraine? I thought both parties were committed to helping Ukraine?
It’s not too complicated. Trump is likely a Russian agent. Probably compromised decades ago in a honey pot scheme. He will do Putin’s bidding. And his followers believe him. The hard right actually supports Russia. They admire his homophobia, his standing up for Christian values. They are isolationists - America first!

We have a long history of such views. It was evident and strong in the 30’s. Many Americans admired Hitler. Many wanted to see the US become a fascist dictatorship. Hitler was doing well economically while we were struggling. There was even a possible coup being planned. These trends live on.
 
Is there anyone here who understands American politics who can explain why the Republicans are blocking further support of Ukraine? I thought both parties were committed to helping Ukraine?
It’s not too complicated. Trump is likely a Russian agent. Probably compromised decades ago in a honey pot scheme. He will do Putin’s bidding. And his followers believe him. The hard right actually supports Russia. They admire his homophobia, his standing up for Christian values. They are isolationists - America first!

We have a long history of such views. It was evident and strong in the 30’s. Many Americans admired Hitler. Many wanted to see the US become a fascist dictatorship. Hitler was doing well economically while we were struggling. There was even a possible coup being planned. These trends live on.

Isn't it more likely that Trump is just a russophile? He's always been into eastern Europe. Sometimes litterally. His famous ex-wife is Czech. His tacky aestetic taste sure is east European
 
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It’s not too complicated. Trump is likely a Russian agent.
Sure, Trump Tower servers Alfa Bank, Pee tape, DNS, blah, blah, blah, pizza ... wait it's different.

Give russians some credit, we, of course stupid orcs who die by millions in free and democratic Ukraine.
But we are not that dumb to think that orange imbecile is an agent material.
How exactly that supposed to work anyway? Ruskies have some tape of Trump grabbing you know what and that supposed to shame poor Trumpy into giving Russia all the nuclear codes?
Really? You think that guy can be shamed? really?
You think that he ever had any access to any secrets, let alone able to transfer them without NSA , secret service knowing?
 
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Something is going to happen. Ukro-Regime openly admits assassination of Ilia Kiva (former Ukrainian Parliament member who left Ukraine and was in opposition in Zelesky regime) in Russia and even parade the pictures of his body.
Kiva was a colorful individual. He was an early supporter of Maidan Coup and even was a member of a Right Sector. But then went into opposition into regime and left Ukraine, he was not shy in his attacks on Ukrainian Regime.
Don't forget grenade "accident" and poisoning of Budanov's wife. Something is cooking in that dump called Ukrainian government.
What reasonable Ukranian was against the Maiden uprising?!! Yanuksonofabitch was awful. Incredibly corrupt. A Putler puppet. When the Ukranian legislature passed measures to increase trade with the EU, Yanukie illegally violated the measures. When people started to peacefully protest, Yanukie created an illegal private force and killed around 100 protestors! Jesus Christ, in the US, we impeach presidents for having kids who cheat on their taxes! The Ukranians had plenty of reasons to evict Yanukie without any US help!
 
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