DrZoidberg
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It's clearly not a proxy war. A proxy war is one that is started by a major power which it does not get directly involved with. I'd be happy to debate the maiden revolution. But that Ukraine kicking out a bad leader that it had every right to evict. Then Russia directly attacked Ukraine. No offense but calling it a proxy war is an insult to Ukrainians fighting for their lives against a much larger army.I have no idea wtf you are talking about? What is this even a reference to? I don't even understand what you are refuting or what you are for?Money is a combatant? Get serious. Ukraine is a necessary fight because Hitler is alive and well again in Russia. It's a pretty simple thing to understand for those sufficiently informed and capable of responding.NATO money is dying in Ukraine. A lot of it. More NATO money is dying in Ukraine than Ukrainian money. Most Ukrainian military hardware is now NATO hardware
How does your comment disprove that it's a proxy war? Without US/NATO money Ukraine would have lost already. That makes it a proxy war.
It's not like a proxy war is equated with being evil or not justified. It just means that one side of the conflict doesn't have boots on the ground. They fight via a proxy.
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Then you're just adding irrelevant and erroneus qualifiers, because why? Why are so many here desperate to deny this is a proxy war between Russia and USA? Just look at the total amount of hardware. If the rest of NATO stopped sending weapons to Ukraine, Ukraine would be fine. It's the American weapons that count.
Obsessing about who started it is what children do. It has no relevance to why wars keep going, or who takes over as a main beligerent over time.
The fact that Ukraine would collapse without American support makes it a proxy war.