How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

Queue barbos to start spreading conspiracies on how this was rigged.

He already has started on that bullshit route.

It's not a bullshit. Bullshit is what euro scum did when the cancelled elections on BS reasons.

"BS reasons" = "reasons I don't like because they are against the interests of dear leader Putin"

Western media admitted that these were BS reasons.

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You look great in uniform.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

How could they do IFF? It's not incompetent to not do what's basically impossible in the situation.

I don't know Install their own system. Turn off AA systems when F-16s are in the air.
I don't recall ukro-Wehrmacht having problems with their own soviet era planes.

Their systems were based on the planes they used to use. They can't just drop them into a F-16.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The truth is, the real obstacle to peace is Elensky and his closest cirlce.
They convinced themselves that they are dead men if they decide to stop this war. Nazis would kill them all. Right now they are pretty safe and stealing western money, why change anything?

Your repeated executions of captives suggest they are right.

Your ethnic cleansing suggests it would be all of Ukraine that dies if they make peace. It's quite clear you intend Holodomor 2.0.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Russians define “denazification” as demilitarize so that we can conquer you in the future. No border country would accept these terms with Russia. Trump understands this now. The west needs to dramatically increase sanctions on Russia. We need to start telling any country trading with Russia or aiding Russia; if you work with Russia you will not get any trade either us. We need to starve the Russian war machine.

What? "Trump understands" is an oxymoron. He failed badly enough his advisors can probably keep him from failing more, but that doesn't translate to understanding.

 

[laughing dog]

The only country to invade Ukraine is Russia. You have failed countless times to support your baseless conspiracy theories.

Nope, I supported it just fine.
EU/US invaded Ukraine, Russia is liberating Ukraine from your scum

By replacing them with Russian nazi murderers and rapists?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

.. though you are playing to Russia's defense, it still doesn't excuse Russian atrocities.

I am not playing anything. I am not Barbos. Sure, Indian Army does not allow attrocities to civilians or soldiers. We will stick with Geneva convention. Many other countries don't.

Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum (born 1985) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Your hands aren't clean.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

LOL. That sounds exactly like something an amoral opportunist might say.
Lies don't become true just because a sufficiently large number of people believe them. And atrocities don't become any less atrocious just because they were performed by a tribe you are sympathetic to.

Politics is that kind of thing (George Bush Jr. - WMD).
It is not a matter of lies or truth, it is about perspective.

No. Bush lied. It is quite simple.

Lies aren't true no matter how much you insist. There is no such thing as "subjective facts." Objective reality supercedes "perspective" every time.

Wrong, yes. Lied--questionable.

The basic problem was we had a bunch of evidence from the ground saying no WMD, but we had a bunch of evidence from intel of local commanders reporting successfully keeping WMD out of the hands of the inspectors. We didn't realize it was a deception aimed at Saddam, local commanders covering up failure.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Wow. Russian tanks suck

We don't even know these tanks are russian.

Each of those tanks had a three man crew that are now dead.

Your point?
There are way more dead ukro-nazis in Ukraine than russians.

There are way too many dead Russians (and a lot more non-Russians who were in Russia) and Ukrainians from this invasion.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Meanwhile, Elensky threatens with terrorist acts during May 9 Victory Parade in Moscow.
Hitler would have been proud.

Your country attacks Ukraine every single day. Why the fuck should Russia not be under threat of attack? If you want peace, quit whining, make peace. Utin wouldn't hesitate to attack a westerner visiting Ukraine.

That's not the point here. So try again.
And then, my country does not attack Ukraine every day. It's actually Ukraine who attack my country every day with their stupid drones I mean civilian targets inside Russia, 40-60 drones every day. without exception, most of them get shot down but occasionally they hit apartment here and apartment there.

Putin could stop this immediately by leaving Ukraine.

Actually, he can't, russian public would not like it.

It's not a matter of "not like it". If you fail in Ukraine there are other parts of Russia that would like to leave and would be emboldened by seeing you couldn't take Ukraine. The threat of retaliation would be shown hollow.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile, Elensky threatens with terrorist acts during May 9 Victory Parade in Moscow.
Hitler would have been proud.

Your country attacks Ukraine every single day. Why the fuck should Russia not be under threat of attack? If you want peace, quit whining, make peace. Utin wouldn't hesitate to attack a westerner visiting Ukraine.

That's not the point here. So try again.
And then, my country does not attack Ukraine every day. It's actually Ukraine who attack my country every day with their stupid drones I mean civilian targets inside Russia, 40-60 drones every day. without exception, most of them get shot down but occasionally they hit apartment here and apartment there.

Putin could stop this immediately by leaving Ukraine.

Actually, he can't, russian public would not like it.

It's not a matter of "not like it". If you fail in Ukraine there are other parts of Russia that would like to leave and would be emboldened by seeing you couldn't take Ukraine. The threat of retaliation would be shown hollow.

Yeah, and? Do you realize that you just gave away the whole pan?
Same logic applies to virtually every country, Union, etc. You think no one in Texas wants to leave US?
Having said that, Unlike US In, Russia there are not that many regions which want to leave.
And these who want to leave (caucuses) are more than welcome to do so as far as I am concerned. Don't care. I know they will turn into shit immediately without Russia. Chechnya tried that. Still there are some external forces in the west which try to make it happen for the reason of creating problems for Russia.

 

[barbos]

Wow. Russian tanks suck

We don't even know these tanks are russian.

Each of those tanks had a three man crew that are now dead.

Your point?
There are way more dead ukro-nazis in Ukraine than russians.

There are way too many dead Russians (and a lot more non-Russians who were in Russia) and Ukrainians from this invasion.

There would be more dead of everybody if we let scum in Washington and Brussels to win.

 

[barbos]

The truth is, the real obstacle to peace is Elensky and his closest cirlce.
They convinced themselves that they are dead men if they decide to stop this war. Nazis would kill them all. Right now they are pretty safe and stealing western money, why change anything?

Your repeated executions of captives suggest they are right.

Your ethnic cleansing suggests it would be all of Ukraine that dies if they make peace. It's quite clear you intend Holodomor 2.0.

Your repeated repetition of ukro-nazi propaganda garbage stories suggests that we need to finish Nazi Ukraine and in fact execute all that scum in order to teach a lesson to future scum which tries to use lies in order to earn money from the scum in Washington.
People in countries around Russia should know that they are as good as dead if they work for Nuland&Co

 

[aupmanyav]

Your hands aren't clean.

Agree. UAE is politically and economically very important to India, as it was for many other countries.
Israel too is important to us for many things, Barack, SAM, AWACS. Spike, Heron, etc.

 

[SLD]

The truth is, the real obstacle to peace is Elensky and his closest cirlce.
They convinced themselves that they are dead men if they decide to stop this war. Nazis would kill them all. Right now they are pretty safe and stealing western money, why change anything?

Your repeated executions of captives suggest they are right.

Your ethnic cleansing suggests it would be all of Ukraine that dies if they make peace. It's quite clear you intend Holodomor 2.0.

Your repeated repetition of ukro-nazi propaganda garbage stories suggests that we need to finish Nazi Ukraine and in fact execute all that scum in order to teach a lesson to future scum which tries to use lies in order to earn money from the scum in Washington.
People in countries around Russia should know that they are as good as dead if they work for Nuland&Co

Sheesh. Give it up. It’s obvious that after 3 years of war, your military sucks and won’t be able to defeat Ukraine. I read that Russia gained in 4000 square kilometers of Ukraine in 2024. They have to capture over 220,000 square kilometers just to reach Kiev. At this rate your war will go on for another 55 years. Good fucking luck you dipshits.

 

[Elixir]

At this rate your war will go on for another 55 years.

Won't they run out of North Korean conscripts before then?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul lost two people in their negotiations with Russians.
Translator and one of the aides deserted to Bulgaria, during recess
Both are males. Things are not looking good for Elensky regime

"Negotiations"? LOL. WTF are you talking about?

Yes, negotiations

"Do what we want or we continue our attacks" isn't a negotiation, it is a violent threat. I know English is your second language, but come on.

It's negotiations from the positions of strength. You wanted that but for Ukraine.

Strength? The Russia invasion of attrition is a position of strength? Russia has leverage, but I wouldn't call their position one of strength, otherwise this would have been over years ago.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Your point?
There are way more dead ukro-nazis in Ukraine than russians.

There are way too many dead Russians (and a lot more non-Russians who were in Russia) and Ukrainians from this invasion.

There would be more dead of everybody if we let scum in Washington and Brussels to win.

Death toll appears to be between 500,000 and 2,000,000 at the moment. So your claim appears unlikely to be true.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's not a matter of "not like it". If you fail in Ukraine there are other parts of Russia that would like to leave and would be emboldened by seeing you couldn't take Ukraine. The threat of retaliation would be shown hollow.

Yeah, and? Do you realize that you just gave away the whole pan?
Same logic applies to virtually every country, Union, etc. You think no one in Texas wants to leave US?
Having said that, Unlike US In, Russia there are not that many regions which want to leave.
And these who want to leave (caucuses) are more than welcome to do so as far as I am concerned. Don't care. I know they will turn into shit immediately without Russia. Chechnya tried that. Still there are some external forces in the west which try to make it happen for the reason of creating problems for Russia.

So you admit Moscow rules by fear.

Yes, there are some in Texas who would like to leave. That doesn't mean that the state as a whole would like to leave.

And Chechnya isn't a good example because of your actions there.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Sheesh. Give it up. It’s obvious that after 3 years of war, your military sucks and won’t be able to defeat Ukraine. I read that Russia gained in 4000 square kilometers of Ukraine in 2024. They have to capture over 220,000 square kilometers just to reach Kiev. At this rate your war will go on for another 55 years. Good fucking luck you dipshits.

Or something collapses. Either Ukrainian troops or the Russian economy. The “what ifs” left are Numbnuts wakes up tomorrow and throws some weight behind Ukraine or the EU grows a pair and finds the ability to come to a decision, something with teeth.

 

[ZiprHead]