How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[ZiprHead]

"They still have their thumbs."

A fascist's best excuse for the war crimes that he and his criminal friends applaud.

Fascists are the ones who support nazi regime in Kiev.

Lol. You can't deny that you are happy to make the most depraved excuses possible for literal war crimes, so you deflect with wild accusations with no supporting evidence. Here's a hint Barbos. Nazis think war crimes are no big deal and YOU think war crimes are no big deal too. Do you represent all of Russia? So delusional and depraved?

There are no war crimes there. There is an idiot talking trash.
If you want war crimes then you should look at Nazi Regime in Kiev.

The existence (or non-existence) of war crimes in this situation is irrelevant to the fact that you are so dismissive of war crimes that you are happy to give sociopathic excuses to Russian perpetrators. You won't even deny it. This is the second time you have chosen to deflect instead of address the issue. Russians like the man bragging about war crimes and you who defend him with depraved excuses are exemplars of NAZI depravity. Congratulations.

I am dismissive?
You had been dismissive of war crimes for 8 years before I became dismissive.
You dismiss all the shit "Ukrainians" do.

All countries commit war crimes during war. It is normal. The difference is that Ukraine is defending itself. It is backed against the wall and has to fight. Your country is the invader.

They are not defending themselves. They have been attacking russians since 2014.

I agree. Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014.

You invade, you get attacked.

 

[barbos]

I agree. Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014.

You invade, you get attacked.

I don't really care who technically invaded who and when.
The moment hostile regime in Kiev established itself Ukraine lost any benefit of the doubt and Russia correctly and lawfully took what's is actually ours. Having said that, it was actually nazi degenerates who made the first move when they got enough chutzpah to bus themselves to Crimea.
They were politely laughed out by locals (not russian russians), and told to never try that again.
Regime in Kiev as far as I am concerned is illegitimate and nazi. And they don't have popular support.
And even if they did, it would not matter one bit. Russian security is more important than opinion of a bunch of degenerates calling themselves "ukrainian". Hitler had plenty of support.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I agree. Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014.

You invade, you get attacked.

I don't really care who technically invaded who and when.

The moment hostile regime in Kiev established itself Ukraine lost any benefit of the doubt and Russia correctly and lawfully took what's is actually ours.

You mean lawfully by the Taters?

Having said that, it was actually nazi degenerates who made the first move when they bussed themselves to Crimea.
They were politely laughed out by locals (not russian russians), and told to never try that again.

What in '54 when Khrushchev shifted Crimea to Ukraine?

 

[barbos]

You mean lawfully by the Taters?

No, greeks.

 

[barbos]

What in '54 when Khrushchev shifted Crimea to Ukraine?

Is that a question?

 

[Harry Bosch]

I agree. Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014.

You invade, you get attacked.

I don't really care who technically invaded who and when.
The moment hostile regime in Kiev established itself Ukraine lost any benefit of the doubt and Russia correctly and lawfully took what's is actually ours. Having said that, it was actually nazi degenerates who made the first move when they got enough chutzpah to bus themselves to Crimea.
They were politely laughed out by locals (not russian russians), and told to never try that again.
Regime in Kiev as far as I am concerned is illegitimate and nazi. And they don't have popular support.
And even if they did, it would not matter one bit. Russian security is more important than opinion of a bunch of degenerates calling themselves "ukrainian". Hitler had plenty of support.

I appreciate the fact that you don't duck questions. I actually don't think that you are a paid shrill of Russian government. I also appreciate hearing the opposite side. I'm actually glad that you are on this forum. However, to me, there is nearly no one lower than an avowed aggressive imperialist who is too old to serve and doesn't have children who serve. If you had children dying on the front lines, you wouldn't be so imperialistic. Very easy to push war when you don't have to serve. Good quote from unknown source: There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending."3

 

[barbos]

Very easy to push war when you don't have to serve

Tell that to EU/NATO pigs.
At present, Russian army uses volunteers in Ukraine. Whereas Nazi regime in Kiev rounds up men on the streets.

you wouldn't be so imperialistic.

But it is not me who is imperialistic, it's you. You told ukrainian government to fight instead of settling peacefully without any loss of the territory.
You were hoping to defeat Russia and then split it into 5 parts. It's in your fucking plans. Your fucking cunts like Kaya Kallas were openly talking about it. She does not have children and yet she wants to destroy Russia.
That cunt was born in USSR, her father was a big shot in USSR government, she got everything, good childhood, good education. And now she wants to destroy Russia.

You can repeat BS your hear on your media all day long. Not gonna change mind of anybody in Russia.
As I said before, even prominent opposition figures such as Latynina are now effectivly pro-Putin.
Why? because he is right and they can't deny it any longer. All you have left are the the paid by US opposition which have no choice but to stay with neocon script.

 

[bilby]

barbos seems unreasonably angry for a person whose entire worldview is founded on falsehoods.

If you're going to believe nonsense, why not believe something that makes you happy?

"Volunteers":

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/europe/north-korea-troops-russia-ukraine-intl-cmd

https://www.rferl.org/a/rferl-systema-russia-prison-recruitment-ukraine-war/33398262.html

 

[zorq]

Very easy to push war when you don't have to serve

Tell that to EU/NATO pigs.
At present, Russian army uses volunteers in Ukraine. Whereas Nazi regime in Kiev rounds up men on the streets.

you wouldn't be so imperialistic.

But it is not me who is imperialistic, it's you. You told ukrainian government to fight instead of settling peacefully without any loss of the territory.

How stupid. You don't even know what imperialism is. An imperialist tries to steal the land and resources of others. Now go back and look at your post. You think Russia should get someone else's territory. Did you learn anything that wasn't completely backward in your shitty Russian schools?

You think people shouldn't fight back when you bring violence into their home? What kind of coward are you? If you think you can dish it out, you should be ready to take it. And by my count Russia has taken a bigger hit than Ukraine has. Probably mostly because Russian Engineering, logistics, and leadership is just as deficient as your ability to distinguish evidence from bullshit.

You were hoping to defeat Russia and then split it into 5 parts. It's in your fucking plans.

More fantasy and conspiracy theories. No evidence. So stupid.

Your fucking cunts like Kaya Kallas were openly talking about it. She does not have children and yet she wants to destroy Russia.
That cunt was born in USSR, her father was a big shot in USSR government, she got everything, good childhood, good education. And now she wants to destroy Russia.

Sure, now that Russia has proven that it's official foreign policy includes murder, theft, an terrorism, you shouldn't be surprised that plenty of people are cheering for Russia's destruction. You want to prove them wrong? Stop acting like a psychopath. You know how to do that right? How to not be a psychopath? Nah, I didn't think so. By your own admission, you don't care who invades or attacks whom. And your reasoning? Because you know that you want to steal other people's shit and that's you number one priority. That's a Psychopath.

You can repeat BS your hear on your media all day long. Not gonna change mind of anybody in Russia.
As I said before, even prominent opposition figures such as Latynina are now effectivly pro-Putin.
Why? because he is right and they can't deny it any longer. All you have left are the the paid by US opposition which have no choice but to stay with neocon script.

All you have is conspiracy theories with no evidence to back them up to support your bigotry and violence. Doesn't that ever bother you? That you cheer for violence and destruction of innocent people even though you can't actually pin down any real evidence that anyone was ever out to hurt you or Russia? Nah. You are just as morally bankrupt as you are intellectually dishonest.

 

[barbos]

How stupid. You don't even know what imperialism is. An imperialist tries to steal the land and resources of others. Now go back and look at your post. You think Russia should get someone else's territory

Stupid is you. Imperialism is NATO/EU moving into Russia. And if baltic Nazistans end up back in Russian "Empire" that would be not an imperialism but a payback for their nazi shittiness.

 

[barbos]

More fantasy and conspiracy theories. No evidence. So stupid.

Nope, that's a real fact. Fucking cunt really said that, And Conference really took place in fucking Poland and all the mothefuckers (from all 5 future remnant of Russia) were invited there

 

[Harry Bosch]

How stupid. You don't even know what imperialism is. An imperialist tries to steal the land and resources of others. Now go back and look at your post. You think Russia should get someone else's territory

Stupid is you. Imperialism is NATO/EU moving into Russia. And if baltic Nazistans end up back in Russian "Empire" that would be not an imperialism but a payback for their nazi shittiness.

Sigh. There are no nato troops in Russia. Never has been. The real issue here is that Russia doesn't recognize borders. Period. They want to expand. Kidnap more kids. Steal more land and loot. There is no doubt that the Baltics and Poland will be next. Azerbejohn (sp). The world needs to wake up, dramatically increase sanctions against Russia; any country trading with them (China and India) needs to decide which side they are on. And we must increase dramatically defense spending. Every kilo that a Russian solider invades should be extensively mined.

 

[barbos]

 

[barbos]

Sigh. There are no nato troops in Russia.

That's not becasue of lack of trying.
The fact is, NATO were pissing themselves over the prospect of occupying russian base in Crimea.
By the way, there are no russian troops in NATO countries.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile Foreign ministry of 4th Reich published post-WW2 map with russian flag stylized as nazi Germany flag.
Once a nazi always a nazi

 

[barbos]

EU Nazi cunt was told by chinese foreign minister that China will not let Russia lose to EU aggression:

 

[barbos]

barbos seems unreasonably angry for a person whose entire worldview is founded on falsehoods.

You are projecting again.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile in other news, orange idiot resumed weapon supplies to regime in Kiev.
And US sent 10 (!!!!) Patriot missiles. Russians must be dying laughing from this news.
People trying to make sense from all this nonsense coming from Trump Regime.
Best explanation is that Trump can't stop sending weapons to Elensky because he would be blamed for the eventual defeat, so he has to pretend sending something until the eventual end.
Basically ukro-idiots are now dying for no other reason other than let Trump off the hook.

 

[barbos]

Speaking of China, unconfirmed report says that Putin told Trump that Paific ocean (Taiwan included) is none of Russian business, US can do whatever they want, but Ukraine is Russia's business and not US business.

 

[ZiprHead]

Very easy to push war when you don't have to serve

Tell that to EU/NATO pigs.
At present, Russian army uses volunteers in Ukraine. Whereas Nazi regime in Kiev rounds up men on the streets.

Total and complete bullshit.

Conscription in Russia (Russian: всеобщая воинская обязанность, romanized: vseobshchaya voinskaya obyazannost, translated as "universal military obligation" or "liability for military service") is a 12-month draft, which is mandatory for all male citizens who are between 18 and 30 years old, with a number of exceptions. Avoiding the draft is a felony under Russian criminal code and is punishable by up to 26 months of imprisonment.

 Conscription in Russia

you wouldn't be so imperialistic.

But it is not me who is imperialistic, it's you. You told ukrainian government to fight instead of settling peacefully without any loss of the territory.
You were hoping to defeat Russia and then split it into 5 parts. It's in your fucking plans.

Post a link to these plans. Note that you cannot link to your ass.

Your fucking cunts like Kaya Kallas were openly talking about it. She does not have children and yet she wants to destroy Russia.
That cunt was born in USSR, her father was a big shot in USSR government, she got everything, good childhood, good education. And now she wants to destroy Russia.

Is she wrong?

You can repeat BS your hear on your media all day long. Not gonna change mind of anybody in Russia.

As I said before, even prominent opposition figures such as Latynina are now effectivly pro-Putin.

It's illegal in Russia to not be "pro-Putin".

Why? because he is right and they can't deny it any longer. All you have left are the the paid by US opposition which have no choice but to stay with neocon script.