How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Harry Bosch]

In other news, the pro-EU PAS party won in Moldova's election with 50.1% of the vote

What a fortunate number - 50.1%

Well, the pro-Russian party got 20.1%.

and?

Again, another example of a country that you don't know that well. Moldova was another 50-50 country. In fact, it leaned towards Russia. Most of its speakers speak Russian. Many are Russian. But Russian imperialism is pushing them to the west. All the eastern European countries are moving westward and uniting against Russia because they don't want to be conquered.

 

[barbos]

In other news, the pro-EU PAS party won in Moldova's election with 50.1% of the vote

What a fortunate number - 50.1%

Well, the pro-Russian party got 20.1%.

and?

Again, another example of a country that you don't know that well. Moldova was another 50-50 country.

And now it is conveniently 50.1-49.9.
After you banned Moldova citizens in Russia from voting, and most likely faked the pro-EU votes.
And sent opposition leaders to prison.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

In other news, the pro-EU PAS party won in Moldova's election with 50.1% of the vote

What a fortunate number - 50.1%

Well, the pro-Russian party got 20.1%.

and?

Again, another example of a country that you don't know that well. Moldova was another 50-50 country. In fact, it leaned towards Russia. Most of its speakers speak Russian. Many are Russian. But Russian imperialism is pushing them to the west. All the eastern European countries are moving westward and uniting against Russia because they don't want to be conquered.

They aren't particularly big on The West, but they don't want to be part of Russia either.

 

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[barbos]

They aren't particularly big on The West, but they don't want to be part of Russia either.

Majority of people who voted in Molvova itself voted against Sandu Regime.
they only managed to get more than half of votes by employing election frauds and preventing people in Russia and Transnistria from voting.
Bunch of opposition parties were banned just before the elections and some people were sent to prison on preposterous charges. And participation was only 52%. People are tired of the bullshit.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They aren't particularly big on The West, but they don't want to be part of Russia either.

Majority of people who voted in Molvova itself voted against Sandu Regime.

This is a parliamentary government set up. That outcome is hardly a shocker. Labour party smacked the conservative's ass in the UK in 2024, and had only 33% of the popular vote, only 10 pts more than the Conservatives. In Moldova, the winning party had nearly 2x the vote of the pro-Russia party, which only got about 1/4 of the vote.

Bunch of opposition parties were banned just before the elections and some people were sent to prison on preposterous charges. And participation was only 52%. People are tired of the bullshit.

That is actually up compared to 2021, the highest since 2014, when it was just over 55%.

 

[barbos]

the winning party had nearly 2x the vote of the pro-Russia party, which only got about 1/4 of the vote.

Incorrect. All non-Sandu parties are Pro-russian. And they actually got more votes if you count people living in Moldova.

 

[TomC]

The nuclear threat is Putin holding a gun to his own head.

Suppose Hitler had nukes available that fateful day, instead of just cyanide and a pistol.
How different might the modern world be?
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

the winning party had nearly 2x the vote of the pro-Russia party, which only got about 1/4 of the vote.

Incorrect. All non-Sandu parties are Pro-russian. And they actually got more votes if you count people living in Moldova.

Man, that must suck for all the people that want Russia to take it over.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The nuclear threat is Putin holding a gun to his own head.

Suppose Hitler had nukes available that fateful day, instead of just cyanide and a pistol.
How different might the modern world be?
Tom

Well, back in that day, it needed to be flown over to England and Russia and dropped on London and Moscow. And Germany would likely need to test it on the enemy on the first try as they couldn't test it in their backyard. And it isn't like they would be popping them out by the dozen. The US stopped at Nagasaki because we ran out.

Also, having broken Germany's code, it would have been possible that the allies would have known it was coming and would have put up a fierce fight to keep that plane from ever taking off.

 

[TomC]

The nuclear threat is Putin holding a gun to his own head.

Suppose Hitler had nukes available that fateful day, instead of just cyanide and a pistol.
How different might the modern world be?
Tom

Well, back in that day, it needed to be flown over to England and Russia and dropped on London and Moscow. And Germany would likely need to test it on the enemy on the first try as they couldn't test it in their backyard. And it isn't like they would be popping them out by the dozen. The US stopped at Nagasaki because we ran out.

Okay let me explain the obvious.
Suppose Hitler had the nukes available to Putin. Do you think that human history would bear much resemblance to what has happened?

Do you think that the threat of global destruction would be a deterrent to a violent autocrat about to lose their throne and probably their life?
Tom

 

[steve_bank]

Well Dr Z, Hitler eradicated populations and invaded Ukraine to make way for German expansion. Initially Ukrainians saw the Nazis as liberators from Stalin.

Putin invaded Ukraine and intended to eliminate the population for Russian occupation.

Putin was quite explicit. Ukraine as a culture never really existed and would be replaced by Russian culture. That is genocide.

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.

Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free p[ress.

His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind.

 

[bilby]

In other news, the pro-EU PAS party won in Moldova's election with 50.1% of the vote

What a fortunate number - 50.1%

Well, the pro-Russian party got 20.1%.

and?

Again, another example of a country that you don't know that well. Moldova was another 50-50 country.

And now it is conveniently 50.1-49.9.
After you banned Moldova citizens in Russia from voting, and most likely faked the pro-EU votes.
And sent opposition leaders to prison.

Wow, you truly suck at math.

50.1-20.1 ≠ 50.1-49.9

You don't get to claim every single third party vote as support for the losers.

It is exactly as valid to say that Moldova is 79.9-20.1 in favour of the EU, but nobody said that because it would be an obvious lie.

So why don't you say that? Why do you chose one obvious lie over another? Why doesn't your obvious distortion of the facts in favour of your unfounded opinion embarass you? Do they really pay you enough to act the clown, that you don't care that we can all see you being pointlessly foolish?

 

[steve_bank]

Hitler versus Putin.

1 Grudges

Hitler had a grudge for the loss of the war and the Versailles Treaty.

Putin carries a grudge against the west for the fall of the Soviet Union. He called it the greatest catastrophe of the last century. He stated he wanted restore the Soviet Union, but walked it back.

2. Propaganda

Media in both wer and are controlled by the state, opposing views not allowed. Jailing of opposition. Corrupted judicial system.

3. Planned conquest.

Hitler laid his pans in Mein Kemph. Conquest for German expansion.

Putin is working to a plan. Ciea was given to Ukraine by agreement. First men in inform aperd without insignia appeared, followed by a morality takeover and sham election. Puyin said Crimea was always part of Russia.

Next Ukraine border regions. Men in uniforms without insignia followed by incursions.

Next full scale invasion of Ukraine. Putin said Ukraine neverr realy existed and was always partr of Russia. Sham elections and puppet mayors in occupied areas

4 Terrorism

German bombing of England trying to bring submission. Use of long rage issues, the Vengeance weapons.

Russia attacking civilians, hospitals, schools.

5 Fear mongering

Hitler stoked fear. Jews as existential threats to the state.

Putin ranting NATO is an existential threat on the verge of attacking Russia.

6 Brutality and destruction

Both in the face of an unwinnable war continued to sacrifice people to hang on to the bitter end.


Putin seems to be looking to provoke a NATO response. Jets and drones violating NATO airspace. Putin has long been backed into a corner. The country is in total mobilization and his rhetoric leaves no off ramp.

Who knows what he will do if NATO shoots down jets over NATO airspace.

 

[barbos]

You don't get to claim every single third party vote as support for the losers.

I do get to claim what I claimed.

 

[barbos]

4 Terrorism

German bombing of England trying to bring submission. Use of long rage issues, the Vengeance weapons.

Russia attacking civilians, hospitals, schools.

That's pretty rich coming from Dresden bombing Americans/British.
Actually it's Ukraine and US who is attacking civilians, hospitals, schools in both Ukraine and Russia.
In Russia directly, and indirectly in Ukraine when your stupid air-defence hits civilians,
Your nazi mass media just does not report it.

 

[barbos]

5 Fear mongering

Hitler stoked fear. Jews as existential threats to the state.

That's fucking rich coming from NATO countries who keep attacking countries left and right and fear monger 100 times more.

2. Propaganda

Media in both wer and are controlled by the state, opposing views not allowed. Jailing of opposition. Corrupted judicial system.

You are describing the West here.

 

[barbos]

6 Brutality and destruction

Both in the face of an unwinnable war continued to sacrifice people to hang on to the bitter end.

You are describing the west here. Russia has pretty much won already.
The west lost but western clowns are unable to admit that to their own public that fact.
They would rather have Ukraine be completely destoyed than admit that their plan to destroy Russia has failed.

 

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[barbos]

American imbeciles outmaneuvered themselves when they decided that trade war with the whole world is a good idea when they can't even out-sanction Russia.