How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Harry Bosch]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

Yikes. I'm at a loss at how to reason with someone who would state and believe the above. I've had more sane discussions talking with Branch Davidians.

This is why NATO needs to be dramatically strengthened to avoid more war with Russia. They have an imperialist for a leader with an incredibly naive population that enjoys war for entertainment.

 

[barbos]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

Yikes. I'm at a loss at how to reason with someone who would state and believe the above. I've had more sane discussions talking with Branch Davidians.

This is why NATO needs to be dramatically strengthened to avoid more war with Russia. They have an imperialist for a leader with an incredibly naive population that enjoys war for entertainment.

No, I am at a loss at how to reason with you who state ridiculous BS.
The war was started by nazi you installed in Kiev. Current regime in Kiev has no legitimacy in Eastern Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine was not even participating in elections, forget about illegality of banning non-nazi candidates.

 

[bilby]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

It is estimated that the observable universe is a mere ninety three billion lightyears across, which leaves me perplexed at how anyone could manage to be quite so far from reality as to believe this tripe.

 

[barbos]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

It is estimated that the observable universe is a mere ninety three billion lightyears across, which leaves me perplexed at how anyone could manage to be quite so far from reality as to believe this tripe.

Again, you are projecting.

 

[bilby]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

It is estimated that the observable universe is a mere ninety three billion lightyears across, which leaves me perplexed at how anyone could manage to be quite so far from reality as to believe this tripe.

Again, you are projecting.

There isn't a projector big enough. Your claims are unhinged. If you didn't invade Ukraine, then how the fuck did all those Russian soldiers get there? And why the fuck don't they piss off back home quick-smart?

 

[barbos]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

It is estimated that the observable universe is a mere ninety three billion lightyears across, which leaves me perplexed at how anyone could manage to be quite so far from reality as to believe this tripe.

Again, you are projecting.

There isn't a projector big enough. Your claims are unhinged. If you didn't unprovokedly invade Ukraine, then how the fuck did all those Russian soldiers get there? And why the fuck don't they piss off back home quick-smart?

You're slipping, you forgot "unprovoked", fixed for you.
My comments unhinged?
How about your side? how about Yaroslav Hunka? How about your nazis going atound and burning prio-russian proptesters?
How about your nazi scum going around and removing everything which is Russia related in russian cities?
How about CIA director instructing nazi regime to label pro-russians in Eastern Ukraine as "terrorists"?
Who the fuck you think you are to lecture russians?
You fucking support actual nazi and islamic terrorists in Russia.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Eastern Ukraine want to be part of Russia... which is apparently why Russia has taken so long to occupy scraps of the territory the people on it want to be ruled by them.

 

[Harry Bosch]

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We did not invade Ukraine. We were invited by democratically elected governments of these republics to protect them from nazi regime US installed by a coup. And Ukraine never had any nukes in the first place.
Also NATO promised not to expand and broke that promise so any hypothetical promise by Russia is null and void.

Yikes. I'm at a loss at how to reason with someone who would state and believe the above. I've had more sane discussions talking with Branch Davidians.

This is why NATO needs to be dramatically strengthened to avoid more war with Russia. They have an imperialist for a leader with an incredibly naive population that enjoys war for entertainment.

No, I am at a loss at how to reason with you who state ridiculous BS.
The war was started by nazi you installed in Kiev. Current regime in Kiev has no legitimacy in Eastern Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine was not even participating in elections, forget about illegality of banning non-nazi candidates.

Again, you show your ignorance of Ukraine. The Maidan revolution legally ousted President Viktor Yanukovych in 2013. It was legal according to Ukranian law (maybe not according to Russian law but who gives a shit). After Yanuk, Okegsandr was legally put into power for 104 days. Then an election occurred (not a coup) and Poroshenko was elected by the people in a close vote. Not installed. Elected. If you don't know the difference, I can't help you. Zelensky next ran in 2019 and won with 73% of the vote. A landslide. There have been no legitimate accusations of vote rigging. The Ukranians followed their law and legally elected Zelensky. There was no CIA coup. The world doesn't believe that. Neither does China or India. There is a far right party in Ukraine. They ran against Zelensky and won 2.1% of the total vote. They lost. And are not in Zelensky's party.

The "nazi Ukraine" and "CIA induced coup" are propaganda tools used by Putin to justify the invasion and mobilize domestic support. The rest of the world and historian overwhelmingly reject this framing. There is no evidence that Ukraine is controlled by Nazis or pursues fascist policies.

History lesson over for the day!