How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

This was a post you made on the day of the invasion.

You invaded Russia.

 

[barbos]

Why do you need to use Indian refineries? You keep us telling us yours are ok and working well. You used to export but now need to import?

During USSR most gasoline producing refineries were located in other republics such as Kazachstan and Belarus. We have been using them after USSR dissolution.
Diesel, we are self sufficient. Yes, Kiev regime was able to disrupt operatin (10%) that's why we imported gasoline from India too.

Now, you assholes need to worry about rare earth restrictions from China. They are now putting restrictions on drone compotents too. For US now, but that will be expanded on Europe as well. And your little MiniHitler in Kiev will be in deep shit when he realized that he has no drones.

Puting has been bugging Jinping about that, and finally shit is moving.

 

[zorq]

Puting has been bugging Jinping about that, and finally shit is moving.

Little tip here: You need to be careful about misspelling the names of people you like after spending half a decade deliberately misspelling the names of people you don't like.

 

[bilby]

Little tip here: You need to be careful about misspelling the names of people you like after spending half a decade deliberately misspelling the names of people you don't like.

Maybe we are seeing some cracks in his high regard for Mr Puting.

 

[Harry Bosch]

You invaded Russia.

No we didn't.

 

[steve_bank]

Just ran across this. A typical Russian family apartment. Frankly, it looks like a fire hazard.

Around here a one bedroom is about 700 square feet. Rent around $2000, Comes with a dishware and washer-dryer.

Studios around 400 squire feet.

We have a small gym and a TV room with a big screen TV. Super Bowl parties every year.


Granted it is AI summary.

AI Overview
A typical apartment in Moscow ranges from about 320 to 650 square feet (30 to 60 square meters). Most city residents live in compact spaces, with exact sizes depending heavily on the layout and number of rooms.Typical Sizes by LayoutAs discussed in community discussions on platforms like Quora and Reddit, standard Moscow apartments break down into these typical ranges:Studio / 1-Room (Odnushka): 270 to 430 sq. ft. (25 to 40 m²)2-Room (Dvushka): 485 to 700 sq. ft. (45 to 65 m²)

 

[Elixir]

Around here a one bedroom is about 700 square feet. Rent around $2000,

Yabut you get fresh poop delivered to your doorstep, don’t you? Or did they discontinue that program?

 

[steve_bank]

Yabut you get fresh poop delivered to your doorstep, don’t you? Or did they discontinue that program?

Sometimes I worry about you....

 

[crazyfingers]

Yabut you get fresh poop delivered to your doorstep, don’t you? Or did they discontinue that program?

I think that YOU should order that for the White House.

 

[ZiprHead]

I think that YOU should order that for the White House.

Trump makes his own. All you have to do is check his diapers.

 

[barbos]

No we didn't.

Yes you did, many times.

 

[steve_bank]

I don't think you can call it am invasion as in Ukraine..

Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War - Wikipedia

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The Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War consisted of a series of multi-national military expeditions that began in 1918. The initial impetus behind the interventions was to secure munitions and supply depots from falling into the German Empire's hands, particularly after the Bolsheviks signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, and to rescue the Allied forces that had become trapped within Russia after the 1917 October Revolution.[16] After the Armistice of 11 November 1918, the Allied plan changed to helping the White forces in the Russian Civil War. After the Whites collapsed, the Allies withdrew their forces from Russia by 1925.[17]

Allied troops landed in Arkhangelsk (the North Russia intervention of 1918–1919) and in Vladivostok (as part of the Siberian intervention of 1918–1922). The British also intervened in the Baltic theatre (1918–1919) and in the Caucasus (1917–1919). French-led Allied forces participated in the Southern Russia intervention (1918–1919).

Allied efforts were hampered by divided objectives, and war-weariness following World War I. These factors, together with the evacuation of the Czechoslovak Legion in September 1920, led the western Allied powers to end the North Russia and Siberian interventions in 1920, though the Japanese intervention in Siberia continued until 1922 and the Empire of Japan continued to occupy the northern half of Sakhalin until 1925.[18]

On the other hand American famine relief to Russia may have saved the Russian Revolution. There is a documentary on it. The Russian railroad system did not work well, incompetent management. Some aid was supplied by wagons in the dead of winter by Americans..

Aid rrom USA and Canada over the North Atlantic was crucia to Russia in WWII.

Russian Famine Relief Act - Wikipedia

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The Russian Famine Relief Act of 1921 was formed by the United States Congress on February 24, 1919, with a budget of 100 million dollars ($1,857,000,000 in 2025). Its budget was boosted by private donations, which resulted in another 100 million dollars. In the immediate aftermath of the war, the program delivered more than four million tons of relief supplies to 23 war-torn European countries. Between 1919 and 1921, Arthur Cuming Ringland was chief of mission in Europe.[1] ARA ended its operations outside Russia in 1922; it operated in Russia until 1923.

Under Herbert Hoover, very large scale food relief was distributed to Europe after the war through the American Relief Administration. In 1921, to ease the devastating famine in the Russian SFSR the ARA's director in Europe, Walter Lyman Brown, began negotiating with the Russian People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov, in Riga, Latvia (at that time not yet annexed by the USSR). An agreement was reached on August 21, 1921, and an additional implementation agreement was signed by Brown and People's Commissar for Foreign Trade Leonid Krasin on December 30, 1921. The U.S. Congress appropriated $20,000,000 for relief under the Russian Famine Relief Act of late 1921. Hoover strongly detested Bolshevism, and felt the American aid would demonstrate the superiority of Western capitalism and thus help contain the spread of communism.[2][3]

https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2011/04/u-s-saved-starving-soviet-russia-pbs-film-highlights-stanford-scholars-research-1921-23-famine

The world barely remembers the terrible famine in the Soviet Russia – or the American charity that relieved it. Historian Bertrand Patenaude tells how Herbert Hoover saved more lives than any person who has ever lived.

 

[barbos]

It is called intervention. Russian "invastion" into "Ukraine" is also in intervention because of Civil War in Ukraine YOU organized. Russian Civil War of 2018 was also organized by YOU (Germany specifically)

 

[steve_bank]

It is called intervention. Russian "invastion" into "Ukraine" is also in intervention because of Civil War in Ukraine YOU organized. Russian Civil War of 2018 was also organized by YOU (Germany specifically)

That was 100 years ago and it was part of more complex historical geopolitical issues. When I posted the western militray action during the revolution I knew you probably did not know it, otherwise you would have passed it.

Did yiu know Russia was part of coalition at Waterloo?

Imperial Russia followed by imperial communism. Putin keeps trying create a new imperial Russia and fails over and over, as the Soviets did.

There is a long history of Russian-European conflicts. None of it justifies Putin's aggression. The Soviet communist ideology was replacement of western capitalism with communism, by force if necessary. The Soviets collapsed triyng.


Remember Russia was part of the European coalition that op[posed Napoleon at Waterloo.

The Broader Russian ImpactStrategic Pressure: Although they missed the single-day battle, the sheer weight of the mobilizing Russian and Austrian armies ensured that even if Napoleon had won at Waterloo, his regime was doomed against the endless reserves of the Coalition.

Hundred Days - Wikipedia

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History is a lot more complex than your simplistic rationalizations. Ukraine may be Putin's Waterloo. Hitler and Napoleon did not know when to stop, neither does Putin.

Russo-Japanese War - Wikipedia

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The Russo-Japanese War[a] (8 February 1904 – 5 September 1905) was fought between the Russian Empire and the Empire of Japan over rival imperial ambitions in Manchuria and the Korean Empire. The major land battles of the war were fought on the Liaodong Peninsula and near Mukden in Southern Manchuria, with naval battles taking place in the Yellow Sea and the Sea of Japan.

Russia was never a victim, including the Soviets. Stalin made a non aggression pact with Direr for part of Poland. Stalin invaded Poland along with Hitler to start WWII. Soviets were no bettter than Nazis.

 

[steve_bank]

Barbos

How is your luxury apartment or house? Is it befitting a PHD in physics?

Physics PHD salaries. Maybe you should have stayed here instead of going back to Russia.

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[Ovazor]

It is called intervention. Russian "invastion" into "Ukraine" is also in intervention because of Civil War in Ukraine YOU organized. Russian Civil War of 2018 was also organized by YOU (Germany specifically)

Oh, the terrible German-inspired Russian civil war of 2018. How could one forget that?

 

[Elixir]

I think that YOU should order that

I told Steve, but he just got a worried look on his face.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Oh, the terrible German-inspired Russian civil war of 2018. How could one forget that?

Funny! Yea, countries meddle in other countries. The US is one of the worst. So does China. Tiny Luxemberg does! They all do. If someone wants to say that the US is the biggest meddler, fine. But Russia also muddles all the freakin time. They are constantly stirring anti US propganda. Constantly. Do I think that they invaded the US because when Russia gives weapons or encourages Cuba to hate the US? No, it's not an invasion!

 

[barbos]

BBC "journalist" got some interesting opinions from couple of Mosocow babushkas
By the way his Russian pronunciation is excellent.

 

[barbos]

Oh, the terrible German-inspired Russian civil war of 2018. How could one forget that?

Yeah, that's an historical fact