You have to keep in mind that Derec is NOT a trumpsucker!Exactly how does it “relativize” the narrative that Mr Pretti was just trying to help a somebody being assaulted by ICE agents?New videos show altercation between Alex Pretti and federal agents the week before his death
He kicked the tail light off an ice vehicle several days before the deadly encounter.
That does not mean that the shooting was justified, of course, but it relativizes the narrative that has taken hold that he was just trying to help somebody being hassled by ICE. Instead, he seems to have been involved in anti-ICE activism, and not as a peaceful protester either.

Of course. That's why I wrote: "That does not mean that the shooting was justified, of course, "I'll point out the obvious - did the ICE thug who emptied almost a full fucking magazine into Pretti know of all these facts? Pretti kicked a taillight in an unrelated incident and rushed in to provide aid in another. Two things can be true at once fore fucks sake.
Unironically, I am not.You have to keep in mind that Derec is NOT a trumpsucker!
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Or maybe local police should have cooperated with ICE and do things like arresting suspects that they are better trained and equipped for.Just as an aside... the reason they did not arrest him was probably because if they did, it would have been discovered he had a broken rib.
Are you sure the broken rib is from the same incident? If he had two hostile encounters with ICE, it is possible he had three as well.They had decided to administer justice for the taillight by beating the crap out of him and then running away.
Even if this were true [citation needed], how does that justify vandalism?And so far as the taillight goes, ..., apparently Pretti was angry because earlier there was a family walking around being stalked (and/or chased) by agents.
I agree that all those things are important. But it is telling that the left does not want ICE operating in cities, and they also do not want local police cooperating with ICE. That means that y'all do not want any immigration enforcement whatsoever. Trump is playing into your hands with his usual "bull in a china shop" approach, but the hardcore left does not want any deportations.I could ask whatever happened to warrants, probable cause, law and order, and protected rights, but we seem to have moved past that era.
Minneapolis police should have been there to arrest people.So not only did ICE agents fail to arrest a non-peaceful protester for a first altercation, they failed fantastically to arrest the same non-peaceful protester in a second altercation. I recall hearing complaints about the justice system “just letting people go.” You’ve talked about that a lot, does this situation count?
Yes. Read my post again.The punishment for breaking a tail light isn't execution, am I missing something?
Because he has participated in an attack on an ICE vehicle. That means that he is not peaceful.Exactly how does it “relativize” the narrative that Mr Pretti was just trying to help a somebody being assaulted by ICE agents?
It's fascism to not allow angry LWNJs to kick in taillights of law enforcement vehicles.All of this is not evidence of a "domestic terrorist" kicking a taillight, but just how much our institutions have changed as we move into fascism.
Or maybe local police should have cooperated with ICE and do things like arresting suspects that they are better trained and equipped for.Just as an aside... the reason they did not arrest him was probably because if they did, it would have been discovered he had a broken rib.
Actually, a lot of problems could be avoided if this silly attitude of not cooperating with ICE were lifted. That sets up unnecessary tension between local and federal authorities. Also, many ICE operations would be unnecessary if local governments were to honor immigration detainers for criminal illegals who are in their custody anyway.
Are you sure the broken rib is from the same incident? If he had two hostile encounters with ICE, it is possible he had three as well.They had decided to administer justice for the taillight by beating the crap out of him and then running away.
Even if this were true [citation needed], how does that justify vandalism?And so far as the taillight goes, ..., apparently Pretti was angry because earlier there was a family walking around being stalked (and/or chased) by agents.
I agree that all those things are important. But it is telling that the left does not want ICE operating in cities, and they also do not want local police cooperating with ICE. That means that y'all do not want any immigration enforcement whatsoever. Trump is playing into your hands with his usual "bull in a china shop" approach, but the hardcore left does not want any deportations.I could ask whatever happened to warrants, probable cause, law and order, and protected rights, but we seem to have moved past that era.
It's fascism to not allow angry LWNJs to kick in taillights of law enforcement vehicles.All of this is not evidence of a "domestic terrorist" kicking a taillight, but just how much our institutions have changed as we move into fascism.
Nope! It is fascism to say your paramilitary state police have absolute immunity though.It's fascism to not allow angry LWNJs to kick in taillights of law enforcement vehicles.All of this is not evidence of a "domestic terrorist" kicking a taillight, but just how much our institutions have changed as we move into fascism.
No, it means he was not peaceful on when he attacked the ICE vehicle. It indicates nothing about how he acted when he was executed byBecause he has participated in an attack on an ICE vehicle. That means that he is not peaceful.Exactly how does it “relativize” the narrative that Mr Pretti was just trying to help a somebody being assaulted by ICE agents?
Minneapolis police should have been there to arrest people.So not only did ICE agents fail to arrest a non-peaceful protester for a first altercation, they failed fantastically to arrest the same non-peaceful protester in a second altercation. I recall hearing complaints about the justice system “just letting people go.” You’ve talked about that a lot, does this situation count?
Like the ICE thugs?Minneapolis police should have been there to arrest people.So not only did ICE agents fail to arrest a non-peaceful protester for a first altercation, they failed fantastically to arrest the same non-peaceful protester in a second altercation. I recall hearing complaints about the justice system “just letting people go.” You’ve talked about that a lot, does this situation count?
His murder was not justified, now here are 35 posts about why he was culpable for his own murder.It's fascism to not allow angry LWNJs to kick in taillights of law enforcement vehicles.All of this is not evidence of a "domestic terrorist" kicking a taillight, but just how much our institutions have changed as we move into fascism.
The Democrats lost in 2024 because of inflation, not immigration. Most American's lives are not negatively impacted by undocumented people in this country.Unironically, I am not.You have to keep in mind that Derec is NOT a trumpsucker!
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But I am also not a sucker of the far left "no human is illegal on stolen land" idiots.
Neither of us likes Trump. But I at least understand that the failures of the Democratic Party played a major role in Trump getting elected twice.
And immigration was a major such failure. Not only on the border, where Biden and his Border Czarina Kamala did a bang-up job, but also Democrats running sanctuary cities and states where they are going out of their way not to cooperate with immigration authorities, and are even hindering their work. A good example of that is San Francisco releasing a felonious illegal García Zárate, despite Obama-era ICE filing an detainer. GZ then went on to kill an innocent young woman.
Had Dems been more sane on immigration, Trump would have lost a major issue. Remember also that in debates starting in Summer 2019, many Dem presidential candidates supported decriminalizing illegal border crossings.
Most Democrats promise to decriminalize border crossings during 2020 debate