Ideasthesia

[WAB]

Wow, exquisite! I had not read this before. She sounds like she was really in the zone during this one. It sounds almost like Gerard Manly Hopkins' Sprung Rhythm, but I don't know if she read him? Hopkins' work didn't get widely known until Robert Bridges published his complete work after Hopkins' death.

Also a lot of Swinburne in there.

I don't know if you noticed, but I put a Christina Rossetti poem in the poetry thread, dedicated to you. I think Christine was probably a finer poet than her brother, and she is head and shoulders above the Brontes.

Have you read any of the more modern female geniuses? Namely Marianne Moore? MM was wickedly expert, sublimely good. Also Sylvia Plath.

It is Hopkins - good spot!

What happened? Did you copy and paste from Poetry Soup, or one of those kind of sites. They are notorious for misattributing (is that even a word?) poems. I caught one that was a real doozy: someone had attributed a Robert Service poem to John Berryman! Ha! What's funny is that a very well known poet (PM me if you want to know who) not only linked to the poem, but started a thread at a poetry workshop (PM me for which one, if you're even remotely curious) about it.

I went in and suggested that the poem, in quaint but deft fourteeners, was nothing like John Berryman ever composed. This widely published American (damn, I'm letting this cat out of the bag) poet returned to the thread, acknowledged the mistake, and then the thread suddenly disappeared.

I got no credit for spotting the mistake. Dang it.

Anyhow - I kind of wondered why Christine was aping Hopkins. But I don't trust my noodle anymore to get too much into it.

 

[Subsymbolic]

Wow, exquisite! I had not read this before. She sounds like she was really in the zone during this one. It sounds almost like Gerard Manly Hopkins' Sprung Rhythm, but I don't know if she read him? Hopkins' work didn't get widely known until Robert Bridges published his complete work after Hopkins' death.

Also a lot of Swinburne in there.

I don't know if you noticed, but I put a Christina Rossetti poem in the poetry thread, dedicated to you. I think Christine was probably a finer poet than her brother, and she is head and shoulders above the Brontes.

Have you read any of the more modern female geniuses? Namely Marianne Moore? MM was wickedly expert, sublimely good. Also Sylvia Plath.

It is Hopkins - good spot!

What happened? Did you copy and paste from Poetry Soup, or one of those kind of sites. They are notorious for misattributing (is that even a word?) poems. I caught one that was a real doozy: someone had attributed a Robert Service poem to John Berryman! Ha! What's funny is that a very well known poet (PM me if you want to know who) not only linked to the poem, but started a thread at a poetry workshop (PM me for which one, if you're even remotely curious) about it.

I went in and suggested that the poem, in quaint but deft fourteeners, was nothing like John Berryman ever composed. This widely published American (damn, I'm letting this cat out of the bag) poet returned to the thread, acknowledged the mistake, and then the thread suddenly disappeared.

I got no credit for spotting the mistake. Dang it.

Anyhow - I kind of wondered why Christine was aping Hopkins. But I don't trust my noodle anymore to get too much into it.

Nope, I simply didn’t make it clear enough that it wasn’t Rossetti and you jumped to a perfectly reasonable conclusion.

 

[Elixir]

How exactly do you think evolution works?

Many ways.

The external world cannot force an evolving brain to make anything.

Things arise randomly and they either help or hurt the odds of survival. If they help they are many times retained and modified over time.

As usual, you are hopelessly confused. When you talk of an evolving brain, you can only be talking about a process that occurs across generations. Evolution is not a process that occurs within individual creatures. It is only by screwing up and trying to look at an evolving brain in an individual that you can come to such a daft conclusion. Once again, internal consistency is lacking, just as when you help yourself to your subjective seemings while insisting others are objective.

Yah... "evolving brain", as if either individuals undergo evolution (in other than the colloquial sense) or that some populations of organisms are immune to evolution - both are totally wrong. Hearkens back to Unter's "completed infinities", except that in that case he correctly points out that they don't exist.

 

[untermensche]

An evolving brain is not a specific brain. It is the changes a brain makes over time due to evolution. It is many many brains.

 

[Subsymbolic]

An evolving brain is not a specific brain. It is the changes a brain makes over time due to evolution. It is many many brains.

Oh yeah, I forgot: you don't understand evolution either. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[untermensche]

An evolving brain is not a specific brain. It is the changes a brain makes over time due to evolution. It is many many brains.

Oh yeah, I forgot: you don't understand evolution either. Thanks for the reminder.

I understand it better than you I have no doubt.

A brain does undergo evolutionary change.

Shorthand: An evolving brain.

 

[Subsymbolic]

An evolving brain is not a specific brain. It is the changes a brain makes over time due to evolution. It is many many brains.

Oh yeah, I forgot: you don't understand evolution either. Thanks for the reminder.

I understand it better than you I have no doubt.

A brain does undergo evolutionary change.

Shorthand: An evolving brain.

Yeah, that and punctuation...

 

[untermensche]

I understand it better than you I have no doubt.

A brain does undergo evolutionary change.

Shorthand: An evolving brain.

Yeah, that and punctuation...

When they can't deal with the ideas they criticize the punctuation.

These parrots that learned the petty rules so well but have no ideas or ability to judge ideas.

 

[WAB]

I understand it better than you I have no doubt.

A brain does undergo evolutionary change.

Shorthand: An evolving brain.

Yeah, that and punctuation...

When they can't deal with the ideas they criticize the punctuation.

These parrots that learned the petty rules so well but have no ideas or ability to judge ideas.

Sub, et al:

I think it is high time we stop feeding this troll. Eventually he/she will get bored and go somewhere else. If we just ignore him/her, he/she will not be able to continue doing what he/she is doing. At least not without the obvious childish satisfaction, and the occasional infantile tantrum.

The troll is going on ignore soon as I post this last bit...

 

[untermensche]

I am feeding you.

You have delusions you cannot support.

The last resort of somebody who has no arguments is "ignore".

When the weak minds put me on ignore it removes a lot of crap I have to see.

 

[Subsymbolic]

I am feeding you.

You have delusions you cannot support.

The last resort of somebody who has no arguments is "ignore".

When the weak minds put me on ignore it removes a lot of crap I have to see.

I pity you.

 

[untermensche]

I am feeding you.

You have delusions you cannot support.

The last resort of somebody who has no arguments is "ignore".

When the weak minds put me on ignore it removes a lot of crap I have to see.

I pity you.

Of course you do.

You're a parrot without one idea.

You just have your strange emotions.