If Biden Wins....

[Cheerful Charlie]

If Biden wins, will the Democrats be able to put the Antifa genie back in the bottle?

Antifa formed to oppose Swastika flag waving neo-Nazis. That had nothing to do with the Democratic party. Though Trump and the GOP's support for extremists like those with their dog whistle politics did encourage the extremists.

As long as Neo-Nazis, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo boys exist and make pests of themselves we will have antifa and other like minded people opposing them.

 

[Patooka]

If Biden wins, will the Democrats be able to put the Antifa genie back in the bottle?

There are Republican candidates openly consorting with 3 Percenters, QAnon, Patriot Prayer and are happily accepting endorsements from the likes of David Duke.

I haven't heard of a single Democrat candidate running on a pro-Antifa platform.

 

[Elixir]

If Biden wins, will the Democrats be able to put the Antifa genie back in the bottle?

There are Republican candidates openly consorting with 3 Percenters, QAnon, Patriot Prayer and are happily accepting endorsements from the likes of David Duke.

I haven't heard of a single Democrat candidate running on a pro-Antifa platform.

Yup. Dems win, antifa goes away and Q-terrorists crawl back under their rocks.
Reps win, and we will have a world indistinguishable from the dystopia of Max Headroom.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

If Biden wins, what should be done with former Trump supporters? What should be done with the judges (not just SCOTUS) that were appointed by Trump?

 

[Trausti]

If Biden wins, what should be done with former Trump supporters? What should be done with the judges (not just SCOTUS) that were appointed by Trump?

They should probably be forced to wear identifying badges. And sent to re-education camps to learn the errors of their ways.

 

[Patooka]

If Biden wins, what should be done with former Trump supporters? What should be done with the judges (not just SCOTUS) that were appointed by Trump?

They should probably be forced to wear identifying badges. And sent to re-education camps to learn the errors of their ways.

Nope, you need to have a barcode tattooed to your neck, be forced to eat soy products, have at least 2 gay spouses to fight the patriarchy, learn the right way to kneel for the anthem, have a logbook ready for the fucking thought police so they can check to see how many minority groups you have apoligized to this week, abstain from meat and prepare at least two rooms in your house for refugee families.

I mean if you are going to go full cringe, grow a fucking pair and don't do it half-arsed. Be more like your hero Tim Pool:

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[Derec]

Antifa formed to oppose Swastika flag waving neo-Nazis.

Wrong. Antifa, or Antifaschistische Aktion, to give it it's full name, formed as a paramilitary organ of the German Communist Party in the 1920s.
They opposed "swastika flag waving Nazis", but of the OG, not neo, variety. However, they also opposed anybody who was not communist, including left-of-center SPD.
Modern Antifa is like that too, as they call everybody who is not as far left as them "fascists".

As long as Neo-Nazis, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo boys exist and make pests of themselves we will have antifa and other like minded people opposing them.

 

[Trausti]

If Biden wins, will the Democrats be able to put the Antifa genie back in the bottle?

Antifa formed to oppose Swastika flag waving neo-Nazis. That had nothing to do with the Democratic party. Though Trump and the GOP's support for extremists like those with their dog whistle politics did encourage the extremists.

As long as Neo-Nazis, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo boys exist and make pests of themselves we will have antifa and other like minded people opposing them.

 

[zorq]

Trausti is, as per ususal, posting non-sequitur nonsense, but Jason Derec and Trausti all seem amused or confused by the idea that people who act because of their opposition to fascists might not stop acting until the fascists do. And this isn't even a defense of Antifa, it's an observation.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

 

[bigfield]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Thanks, François.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

They'll probably be around as long as white supremacists feel safe enough to congregate in public.

 

[Elixir]

Antifa formed to oppose Swastika flag waving neo-Nazis.

Wrong. Antifa, or Antifaschistische Aktion, to give it it's full name, formed as a paramilitary organ of the German Communist Party in the 1920s.
They opposed "swastika flag waving Nazis", but of the OG, not neo, variety. However, they also opposed anybody who was not communist, including left-of-center SPD.
Modern Antifa is like that too, as they call everybody who is not as far left as them "fascists".

As long as Neo-Nazis, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo boys exist and make pests of themselves we will have antifa and other like minded people opposing them.

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Any idea who the grand wizard of antifa might be?
Where do they meet? How many members do they boast?
Can you identify their enemy by the color of their skin?

Dishonest equivocation: The hallmark of the racist "I'm not a trumpsucker".

 

[Worldtraveller]

If Biden wins: Half the 'left' will immediately start saying that any action to punish the former president is too much, followed by a bunch of 'we should look forward not back' bullshit. The actual progressive half will try to compromise with those to at least reach a slim majority because the GOP is in lockstep opposing even the slightest hint of actually fixing things.

Come 2022, all those disaffected progressives will say fuck it and stay home, leading in another obstructionist GOP congress (probably both houses).

Lather. Rinse. Fucking repeat.

 

[Politesse]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

Emboldened to do what? Continue to counter-protest at Nazi events? I'm fine with that.

 

[RVonse]

I myself want to see a new Democratic party. No more nice Democrats. I want to see blood and teeth on the floor.

Ha! We'll be lucky if they don't pardon the entire rogues gallery and actively pursue formerly Republican legislative agendas, just like last time. This country gets more right-wing every decade.

You are exactly right about this except for the last sentence. They will pursue Republican agendas not because they are getting more right-wing but because it makes no difference who wins when both parties represent the same real interests.

 

[Jarhyn]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

Emboldened to do what? Continue to counter-protest at Nazi events? I'm fine with that.

I know if the Dems win, THIS antifa person is going to feel mighty emboldened indeed. I'll be so bold as to walk straight to the dab rig and smoke a big old dab of top notch distillate, maybe drop a tab or two of acid, and if the stars are out, I might even dare to go stargazing in the winter (or fall) snow.

The thing about movements based around social issues rather than political parties is that when the issue stops being an issue, the group stops having to act.

When this is over all Antifa will feel emboldened to do is to put their legs up and relax at a job well done as the Nazis scurry back into the woodwork.

I'm going to continue voting though...

 

[Trausti]

Trausti is, as per ususal, posting non-sequitur nonsense, but Jason Derec and Trausti all seem amused or confused by the idea that people who act because of their opposition to fascists might not stop acting until the fascists do. And this isn't even a defense of Antifa, it's an observation.

Please define fascist. Andrew Cuomo?

 

[ZiprHead]

Trausti is, as per ususal, posting non-sequitur nonsense, but Jason Derec and Trausti all seem amused or confused by the idea that people who act because of their opposition to fascists might not stop acting until the fascists do. And this isn't even a defense of Antifa, it's an observation.

Please define fascist. Andrew Cuomo?

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[Gun Nut]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

Do you know why the Republicans use dirty tricks? It helps them do shit overnight that will take years to un-do using traditional methods. Their level will be ALL THERE IS if they aren't dealt with swiftly and thoroughly.

If the Democrats descend to their level that level will be all there is, period.

I think the intent will be to REMOVE that level of potential playing field... if it takes the same type of political bullshit in the neighborhood of "because I can get away with it", then I will applaud it.

"pack" the supreme court with 13 qualified judges with diverse legal backgrounds.
impeach the most egregiously appointed judges on the the grounds of "because we can"
pass a law after that changing the way judges can be appointed
pass a law that defines mandatory processes for impeachment
pass a few dozen laws to replace the now dead "traditions" of our political system so there is no more "but we never thought anyone would really DO that".
label the GoP a domestic terrorist organization, disband the RNC under threat of detainment in Guantanamo Bay, and establish mandatory universal procedures for establishing and operating a political party that include strict laws with ultra-harsh penalties for operating in any way that is less than completely transparent.
push for a constitutional amendment that removes the electoral college


do all of these things using as dirty a trick as you want. Then close the door on those tricks so they can never be used by anyone again.

It's OK to fool a child into eating their vegetables by lying and otherwise tricking them, right? For the country's own good.

 

[Trausti]

Trausti is, as per ususal, posting non-sequitur nonsense, but Jason Derec and Trausti all seem amused or confused by the idea that people who act because of their opposition to fascists might not stop acting until the fascists do. And this isn't even a defense of Antifa, it's an observation.

Please define fascist. Andrew Cuomo?

When Jews Praised Mussolini and Supported Nazis: Meet Israel's First Fascists

Jews are fascists for protesting the government closure of their synagogues? Um, okay. Your understanding of history is a little off.