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If the baby can survive outside the womb is abortion "murder"?

Yes, my statement was misogynistic. A little fun. But then, I am a pre-1950 product and was raised in a different environment.
Just to make sure I translate this correctly, you are saying that whatever flaws you were born and raised with, you intend to die with - because you are not capable of learning and changing?

Do I have that right?

Sort of like;
Everyone: Aup, you’re being an asshole
Aup: I *am* an asshole. It will happen again
Everyone: Seriously? Your plan is to stay an asshole even when you know better?
Aup: Yup, that is my plan.
 
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Yes, my statement was misogynistic. A little fun. But then, I am a pre-1950 product and was raised in a different environment.
Just to make sure I translate this correctly, you are saying that whatever flaws you were born and raised with, you intend to die with - because you are not capable of learning and changing?

Do I have that right?

Sort of like;
Everyone: Aup, you’re being an asshole
Aup: I *am* an asshole. It will happen again
Everyone: Seriously? Your plan is to stay an asshole even when you know better?
Aup: Yup, that is my plan.
He said misogyny is just “a little fun”. Why make a change over something so minor?
 
Yes, my statement was misogynistic. A little fun. But then, I am a pre-1950 product and was raised in a different environment.
Just to make sure I translate this correctly, you are saying that whatever flaws you were born and raised with, you intend to die with - because you are not capable of learning and changing?

Do I have that right?

Sort of like;
Everyone: Aup, you’re being an asshole
Aup: I *am* an asshole. It will happen again
Everyone: Seriously? Your plan is to stay an asshole even when you know better?
Aup: Yup, that is my plan.
:D I try not to be an ass-hole, but sometimes it happens. Now, I do not have much time left, it is sort of OK.
 

If the baby can survive outside the womb is abortion "murder"?​

Why is this a question?
Isn't that the medical viewpoint.
I doubt you can find any doctor willing to preform an abortion that late.
It is only christian fear mongering that it ever happens.
Note that "can survive outside the womb" is more than just time.

What about the cases where there's basically no brain? Doesn't matter how far along the pregnancy is, it's non-viable. And various other deformities that are incompatible with life.
This is exactly what happened to my then wife and I 30 years ago. We were advised by a doctor that the baby that we wanted didn't have a brain and the pregnancy should be terminated. It was anencephalic and would not live, or if it did, it would only be for a matter of days at most. It was a "late term abortion" because both of us wanted a child very much....until we found at 21 weeks that it didn't have a brain. So there was a medical reason, just like there are for 99.999999% of all "late term" abortions. Many pro life groups argued that it WAS viable and show 'proof' in the form of a baby with a little cap on' They didn't say how long it survived, just that it was born alive.

Fast forward to today - in states like Texas, a doctor who performs an abortion for a condition that is not one of their recognized exemptions, could face life in prison. Anencephaly is NOT one of their exceptions. And doctors will not perform the abortion because they could face criminal penalties. It's the big reason why I don't want the government involved in abortions. Sure, people might "abuse" abortion by using it as a form of birth control, just like a lot of people abuse the right to own a gun by killing other people. But I would rather have medical professionals determine the viability than politicians.
 
Yes, my statement was misogynistic. A little fun. But then, I am a pre-1950 product and was raised in a different environment.
Just to make sure I translate this correctly, you are saying that whatever flaws you were born and raised with, you intend to die with - because you are not capable of learning and changing?

Do I have that right?

Sort of like;
Everyone: Aup, you’re being an asshole
Aup: I *am* an asshole. It will happen again
Everyone: Seriously? Your plan is to stay an asshole even when you know better?
Aup: Yup, that is my plan.
:D I try not to be an ass-hole, but sometimes it happens. Now, I do not have much time left, it is sort of OK.


It is not sort of okay, actually.
Misogyny is not fun. No one cares how much time you have left if you use it to harm others.
Not sure why you think you can give yourself permission to be an asshole to people and try to laugh it off.

It’s not okay. It was never okay. It will never be okay, even on your deathbed, to harm women for fun.
 
No one cares how much time you have left if you use it to harm others.
I meant no harm. I too had/have grandmothers, mothers*, mothers-in-law, a wife of 57 years of marriage, sisters, daughters, nieces and grand daughters.
* In India, sisters of the mother are considered no less than the mother. Same for mother-in-law.
 
No one cares how much time you have left if you use it to harm others.
I meant no harm. I too had/have grandmothers, mothers*, mother-in-laws, a wife of 57 years of marriage, sisters, daughters, nieces and grand daughters.
* In India, sisters of the mother are considered no less than mother. Same for mother-in-law.
All that and yet you’d still characterize misogyny as “a little fun”?
 
I do not have much time left
How do you know?
Sure would be a bummer if there was some new development that delayed your impending death and left you without excuse, eh?

Hint for better living: We are all born without “much time” left.
 
How do you know?
Sure would be a bummer if there was some new development that delayed your impending death and left you without excuse, eh?

Hint for better living: We are all born without “much time” left.
True. But my life style and food are not (what is called) healthy. I have been smoking for 67 years.
 
No one cares how much time you have left if you use it to harm others.
I meant no harm. I too had/have grandmothers, mothers*, mothers-in-law, a wife of 57 years of marriage, sisters, daughters, nieces and grand daughters.
* In India, sisters of the mother are considered no less than the mother. Same for mother-in-law.
You know, having sisters and other female relatives doesn't actually prove anything.
 
No one cares how much time you have left if you use it to harm others.
I meant no harm. I too had/have grandmothers, mothers*, mothers-in-law, a wife of 57 years of marriage, sisters, daughters, nieces and grand daughters.
* In India, sisters of the mother are considered no less than the mother. Same for mother-in-law.
You know, having sisters and other female relatives doesn't actually prove anything.
Actually, it proves his misogyny isn’t born from pure ignorance.
 
How do you know?
Sure would be a bummer if there was some new development that delayed your impending death and left you without excuse, eh?

Hint for better living: We are all born without “much time” left.
True. But my life style and food are not (what is called) healthy. I have been smoking for 67 years.
Prob’ly right then. You could burst into flames at any moment.
 
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